[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE

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Anonymous wrote:NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board after seeing their crazy attacks last year on the School Board and on AEM. And now continuing on DCUM.

No f'ing way.

I think you are misinformed, because there are no APE members on the school board ballot.

Who are they endorsing for November?

They haven’t made any endorsements. But that doesn’t change the fact that there are no APE members on the ballot. If you believe I am wrong, please identify the APE member on the ballot.

No one said they were on the ballot. ??

As Democrats, with a candidate who participated in the ACDC process, is APE going to endorse Kadera, the D candidate?

Um, look at the very first post in this tangent where pp said “ NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board”

Ok and? That PP doesn’t mention APE being on a ballot. I read it as “thank fcking god that didn’t happen”.

Who are they going to endorse since they are “Democrats”? Kadera? Was there some obligation by participating in ACDC process?

I think APE is going to run someone again probably Miranda. Otherwise why incorporate as a political group?

I don’t think you understand what a 501c4 is. I hope you’re not the pp who said staying informed about politics is one of her hobbies.

Then please explain why they organized as a 504c4 if not to be involved in and influence future elections.

A 501c4 is a social welfare organization, which is allowed to engage in lobbying efforts [/i]to promote social welfare.[i] Some other 501c4 organizations you may be familiar with are the NAACP, the National Organization for Women, and the Sierra Club. These organizations all engage in lobbying efforts to promote the social welfare goals of their organizations. APE's social welfare goal is the promotion of qualify education in Arlington Public Schools.

As 501c4 organizations, these entities do not "run" candidates. They may endorse particular candidates, but they do not run candidates the way political parties do. Political parties and PACs are organized under 527, not 501, serve different purposes and are subject to very different regulations. There are meaningful substantive differences between these types of organizations, and trying to conflate them only reveals one's lack of understanding.

DP. Are we taking bets yet on which candidates they endorse? The “scorecard” should be entertaining.

There's a very narrow line between running a candidate and endorsing and lobbying for a candidate. APE is a lobbying group now and will actively engage in politics. It already did this. APE and the Miranda campaign were all the same people. Don't try to pretend otherwise.

Completely agree. But Miranda is out for November so we'll need to place bets for who they will endorse this time around.

Who is going to magically score very well on their magic scorecard?

[Anonymous]

The only place I’ve ever heard of APE is on these weird DCUM threads where a bunch of supporters claim it’s not a right wing organization, while at the same time saying that of course lots of democrats are going to vote for Youngkin (um, no, that’s not a thing) and we’re not anti-mask but we shouldn’t make kids wear masks and we’re all about kids’ health but we shouldn’t allow quarantine if there’s exposure. And it just goes on and on. Stop denying what you are and just do your thing. Fighting battles on DCUM because you think somebody on the internet is wrong makes it impossible to take APE seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only place I’ve ever heard of APE is on these weird DCUM threads where a bunch of supporters claim it’s not a right wing organization, while at the same time saying that of course lots of democrats are going to vote for Youngkin (um, no, that’s not a thing) and we’re not anti-mask but we shouldn’t make kids wear masks and we’re all about kids’ health but we shouldn’t allow quarantine if there’s exposure. And it just goes on and on. Stop denying what you are and just do your thing. Fighting battles on DCUM because you think somebody on the internet is wrong makes it impossible to take APE seriously.

You win DCUM today.

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Anonymous wrote:The only place I’ve ever heard of APE is on these weird DCUM threads where a bunch of supporters claim it’s not a right wing organization, while at the same time saying that of course lots of democrats are going to vote for Youngkin (um, no, that’s not a thing) and we’re not anti-mask but we shouldn’t make kids wear masks and we’re all about kids’ health but we shouldn’t allow quarantine if there’s exposure. And it just goes on and on. Stop denying what you are and just do your thing. Fighting battles on DCUM because you think somebody on the internet is wrong makes it impossible to take APE seriously.

Not in APE, but there a a certain irony? tone deafness? to calling out APE like this in a thread started by someone looking to smear APE.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only place I’ve ever heard of APE is on these weird DCUM threads where a bunch of supporters claim it’s not a right wing organization, while at the same time saying that of course lots of democrats are going to vote for Youngkin (um, no, that’s not a thing) and we’re not anti-mask but we shouldn’t make kids wear masks and we’re all about kids’ health but we shouldn’t allow quarantine if there’s exposure. And it just goes on and on. Stop denying what you are and just do your thing. Fighting battles on DCUM because you think somebody on the internet is wrong makes it impossible to take APE seriously.

Not in APE, but there a a certain irony? tone deafness? to calling out APE like this in a thread started by someone looking to smear APE.

The safety crowd knows no depths. They are irrelevant and are bitter -- just trying to take down the bipartisan work that APE is advancing on behalf of all APS parents, including the safety crowd, by the way. I wish the safety nutz would move on and let APE do its thing.

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Anonymous wrote:The only place I’ve ever heard of APE is on these weird DCUM threads where a bunch of supporters claim it’s not a right wing organization, while at the same time saying that of course lots of democrats are going to vote for Youngkin (um, no, that’s not a thing) and we’re not anti-mask but we shouldn’t make kids wear masks and we’re all about kids’ health but we shouldn’t allow quarantine if there’s exposure. And it just goes on and on. Stop denying what you are and just do your thing. Fighting battles on DCUM because you think somebody on the internet is wrong makes it impossible to take APE seriously.

Not in APE, but there a a certain irony? tone deafness? to calling out APE like this in a thread started by someone looking to smear APE.[/

Not tone deaf - just a basic observation about the unprofessional and laughable way APE tries to sell itself as something it’s not. If APE doesn’t want to fight its battles on DCUM, they could have let the thread die. Instead they just keep posting and posting and posting and this thread is now 27 pages long and it’s just a hot pile of garbage.

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Anonymous wrote:The only place I’ve ever heard of APE is on these weird DCUM threads where a bunch of supporters claim it’s not a right wing organization, while at the same time saying that of course lots of democrats are going to vote for Youngkin (um, no, that’s not a thing) and we’re not anti-mask but we shouldn’t make kids wear masks and we’re all about kids’ health but we shouldn’t allow quarantine if there’s exposure. And it just goes on and on. Stop denying what you are and just do your thing. Fighting battles on DCUM because you think somebody on the internet is wrong makes it impossible to take APE seriously.

Not in APE, but there a a certain irony? tone deafness? to calling out APE like this in a thread started by someone looking to smear APE.[/

Not tone deaf - just a basic observation about the unprofessional and laughable way APE tries to sell itself as something it’s not. If APE doesn’t want to fight its battles on DCUM, they could have let the thread die. Instead they just keep posting and posting and posting and this thread is now 27 pages long and it’s just a hot pile of garbage.

APE Member: Repeatedly screams for Duran and the SB to step down in public comment period/"CRT" will corrupt our snowflakes, vouchers for all, or utters anti trans sentiments
APE: "We're a big tent."

APE Member: We hate teacher unions! I won't vote for anyone who gets endorsed by them!!!!
Everyone else: Union?! You mean AEA? Your mean that organization that has actually no power at all and valiantly tries to get the same attention from the board just like you do?

APE Member: Speaks for Virtual Education Parents when they comment in threads and in public comment period
Virtual Parents: We got this, thanks. (Meets with Leadership by themselves)

APE: We formed a 504(c)4 "social welfare" organization
Everyone else: (99% who are either lawyers, contractors who work with c4s, and/or works with nonprofits) Nods head, sees where that's going politically.


Yet, you sit here and try to gaslight all of us in these threads, trying to show how virtuous you are.


Take a seat, sirs, madams and assorted others. You are exactly like what you portray to Arlington and the larger Open Schools Now movement.

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Anonymous wrote:All of us at APE know who the 2 primary people are who are spreading misinformation about APE. They’ve been discussed on this board repeatedly.

We’re glad to see that we just live daily in their heads rent-free, while our 1,000+ members and huge core team go about our work. And thank you for continuing to bring attention to our organization - it just gets us more members.

I'm the OP of this thread. You don't know me.

What have I posted that wasn't factual?

Glad you like this thread. I'll continue to update now that APE has just started this more "political" phase.

DP and yes, we all know you, you post the exact same way over on AEM all. the. time.

Apparently a lot of parents share concerns over math changes - this 50 page thread in this forum regarding the change - https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/962765.page, and there are plenty other threads in Fairfax county schools and AAP.

Sadly Arlington Co is the land of lowered expectations in schools which I chalk up to the wealth of so many families to simply procure educational resources outside of school. Who can blame them? It's easier to hire a tutor vs. trying to make a systemic change in the school. I don't see you doing anything or getting a group of parents together to look at APS. All you do is post anonymous message here and nasty messages on a fb group. What does that do? What does that accomplish? Nothing except entertainment. If you are that bored, spend some time with your dog

You have posted before regarding the fact that APE members send their kids to private school. Be glad they still take even a fleeting interest in public schools because so few parents with kids in APS actually do or go to the extent of actually organizing and trying to make a change. You don't seem to get it. The more they speak up, the more the opposite side speaks up. And that's a really, really good thing. Because that's how you get parents to take an interest and take note. To opposing sides are needed or else everything is rubber stamped and no one looks closely.

You are conflating all sorts of people. No, you don’t know me. I don’t post on AEM. I don’t know where APE parents send their kids - aside from Turner sending kids to private last year.

Should you pay attention to changes to the math curriculum? Of course. APE’s newsletter about VMPI was pushing misinformation and generally was out-of-date/touch. Seemed like it was written by someone just starting to pay attention now and didn’t even know the basic facts.

I’m all for FACTUAL discussions that benefit our kids. Not these political games.

You posted your opinion on page 18 -“ That VMPI may prevent school districts from offering advanced/accelerated paths.”
That’s not a fact because there is nothing yet. It’s all proposals.

And for all your “facts” you clearly missed the boat on the discussion because the VDOE walked back what they originally released due to parent pressure and complaints.

Here is an actual fact - now is the time for parents and school districts to get involved. Basically without an outcry things just pass on through. Who knows? that idea that districts can continue to implement their own plans might end up being dropped if no one shows up and cares about it during the actual process that is going on.

And I don’t even support math acceleration so I am not objecting to the proposal BUT I know many families who care a lot about it so it’s good to see that someone in APS is paying attention to the issue and trying to get involved.

Again besides posting here anonymously which reaches very few parents in APS, what have you done to organize and push issues in APS regarding actual education issues?

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Anonymous wrote:The only place I’ve ever heard of APE is on these weird DCUM threads where a bunch of supporters claim it’s not a right wing organization, while at the same time saying that of course lots of democrats are going to vote for Youngkin (um, no, that’s not a thing) and we’re not anti-mask but we shouldn’t make kids wear masks and we’re all about kids’ health but we shouldn’t allow quarantine if there’s exposure. And it just goes on and on. Stop denying what you are and just do your thing. Fighting battles on DCUM because you think somebody on the internet is wrong makes it impossible to take APE seriously.

Not in APE, but there a a certain irony? tone deafness? to calling out APE like this in a thread started by someone looking to smear APE.[/

Not tone deaf - just a basic observation about the unprofessional and laughable way APE tries to sell itself as something it’s not. If APE doesn’t want to fight its battles on DCUM, they could have let the thread die. Instead they just keep posting and posting and posting and this thread is now 27 pages long and it’s just a hot pile of garbage.

APE Member: Repeatedly screams for Duran and the SB to step down in public comment period/"CRT" will corrupt our snowflakes, vouchers for all, or utters anti trans sentiments
APE: "We're a big tent."

APE Member: We hate teacher unions! I won't vote for anyone who gets endorsed by them!!!!
Everyone else: Union?! You mean AEA? Your mean that organization that has actually no power at all and valiantly tries to get the same attention from the board just like you do?

APE Member: Speaks for Virtual Education Parents when they comment in threads and in public comment period
Virtual Parents: We got this, thanks. (Meets with Leadership by themselves)

APE: We formed a 504(c)4 "social welfare" organization
Everyone else: (99% who are either lawyers, contractors who work with c4s, and/or works with nonprofits) Nods head, sees where that's going politically.


Yet, you sit here and try to gaslight all of us in these threads, trying to show how virtuous you are.


Take a seat, sirs, madams and assorted others. You are exactly like what you portray to Arlington and the larger Open Schools Now movement.

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Guess we will see if APE takes an anti-masking position based on “science and data”…

You mean like this?

Preliminary list of countries not masking kids 5-11 in school this school year (not exclusive):
1) United Kingdom
2) Ireland
3) The Netherlands
4) France (particular states)
5) Germany (particular states)
6) Switzerland
6) Switzerland
7) Slovenia
8) Portugal
9) Iceland
10) Norway
11) Sweden
2) Denmark
13) Finland
14) Australia
15) New Zealand

eh get back to me when the US implements universal healthcare and childcare or takes strict measures like New Zealand did.

Universal healthcare? What does that have to do with a disease that is less harmful to children than the flu for which 3 free and highly effective vaccines are available for adults? And - I guess you do acknowledge it's not a risk to children then if the issue is universal healthcare, not anything of substance.

You want military lockdowns like New Zealand. Haha. Sweden had 0 lockdowns.

If you really don’t understand the difference made by the various social safety nets in these countries then you need to close your browser, turn off your phone and throw it into the ocean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More on the Republican astroturfing efforts:
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/44644661/tea-party-20-conservatives-get-organized-in-school-battles

”A loose network of conservative groups with ties to major Republican donors and party-aligned think tanks is quietly lending firepower to local activists engaged in culture war fights in schools across the country.

While they are drawn by the anger of parents opposed to school policies on racial history or COVID-19 protocols like mask mandates, the groups are often run by political operatives and lawyers standing ready to amplify local disputes.”


“The political tracking website Ballotpedia counts about 30 active school board recall efforts nationwide. Some are focused chiefly on disputes over anti-racism training and education in schools, often labeled critical race theory. Others were prompted by debates over school policies on transgender students and pandemic public health measures.

Local parent activists are quick to claim credit for that work, and the outside groups offering legal help, research, organizing tools and media training are often reluctant to discuss their role.”


“Among those is Parents Defending Education, an Arlington, Virginia-based group formed in January and dedicated to “fighting indoctrination in the classroom.” It provides templates for requesting public records, a guide to parent rights, organizing strategies and talking points.

Neily declined to name Parents Defending Education’s funding sources. As a tax-exempt organization, the group is not required to make its donors public. Neily has worked in senior positions for conservative groups including the Independent Women’s Forum and Cato Institute, according to the group's website.”


Is APE working with these groups?

Of course. I can’t be the only one that googled the originals members as soon as I heard about them can I?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More on the Republican astroturfing efforts:
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/44644661/tea-party-20-conservatives-get-organized-in-school-battles

”A loose network of conservative groups with ties to major Republican donors and party-aligned think tanks is quietly lending firepower to local activists engaged in culture war fights in schools across the country.

While they are drawn by the anger of parents opposed to school policies on racial history or COVID-19 protocols like mask mandates, the groups are often run by political operatives and lawyers standing ready to amplify local disputes.”


“The political tracking website Ballotpedia counts about 30 active school board recall efforts nationwide. Some are focused chiefly on disputes over anti-racism training and education in schools, often labeled critical race theory. Others were prompted by debates over school policies on transgender students and pandemic public health measures.

Local parent activists are quick to claim credit for that work, and the outside groups offering legal help, research, organizing tools and media training are often reluctant to discuss their role.”


“Among those is Parents Defending Education, an Arlington, Virginia-based group formed in January and dedicated to “fighting indoctrination in the classroom.” It provides templates for requesting public records, a guide to parent rights, organizing strategies and talking points.

Neily declined to name Parents Defending Education’s funding sources. As a tax-exempt organization, the group is not required to make its donors public. Neily has worked in senior positions for conservative groups including the Independent Women’s Forum and Cato Institute, according to the group's website.”


Is APE working with these groups?

Of course. I can’t be the only one that googled the originals members as soon as I heard about them can I?

If that’s true, name names and prove it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More on the Republican astroturfing efforts:
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/44644661/tea-party-20-conservatives-get-organized-in-school-battles

”A loose network of conservative groups with ties to major Republican donors and party-aligned think tanks is quietly lending firepower to local activists engaged in culture war fights in schools across the country.

While they are drawn by the anger of parents opposed to school policies on racial history or COVID-19 protocols like mask mandates, the groups are often run by political operatives and lawyers standing ready to amplify local disputes.”


“The political tracking website Ballotpedia counts about 30 active school board recall efforts nationwide. Some are focused chiefly on disputes over anti-racism training and education in schools, often labeled critical race theory. Others were prompted by debates over school policies on transgender students and pandemic public health measures.

Local parent activists are quick to claim credit for that work, and the outside groups offering legal help, research, organizing tools and media training are often reluctant to discuss their role.”


“Among those is Parents Defending Education, an Arlington, Virginia-based group formed in January and dedicated to “fighting indoctrination in the classroom.” It provides templates for requesting public records, a guide to parent rights, organizing strategies and talking points.

Neily declined to name Parents Defending Education’s funding sources. As a tax-exempt organization, the group is not required to make its donors public. Neily has worked in senior positions for conservative groups including the Independent Women’s Forum and Cato Institute, according to the group's website.”


Is APE working with these groups?

Of course. I can’t be the only one that googled the originals members as soon as I heard about them can I?

If that’s true, name names and prove it.

JFC. APE has answered this ad nauseum. No, nothing to do with them. Different group completely. This thread has been illuminating on which side is actually pushing misinformation. These posters are like Trump accusing "opponents" of the shit you're actually doing yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only place I’ve ever heard of APE is on these weird DCUM threads where a bunch of supporters claim it’s not a right wing organization, while at the same time saying that of course lots of democrats are going to vote for Youngkin (um, no, that’s not a thing) and we’re not anti-mask but we shouldn’t make kids wear masks and we’re all about kids’ health but we shouldn’t allow quarantine if there’s exposure. And it just goes on and on. Stop denying what you are and just do your thing. Fighting battles on DCUM because you think somebody on the internet is wrong makes it impossible to take APE seriously.

Not in APE, but there a a certain irony? tone deafness? to calling out APE like this in a thread started by someone looking to smear APE.

The safety crowd knows no depths. They are irrelevant and are bitter -- just trying to take down the bipartisan work that APE is advancing on behalf of all APS parents, including the safety crowd, by the way. I wish the safety nutz would move on and let APE do its thing.

Well. I guess APE would consider me a safety nut because I'm glad we have safety measures in schools. I'm grateful to those who advocated for them and I'm grateful to APS for putting them in place. This way my kid can attend school and hopefully not get Covid. He's already been exposed once and I'm pretty sure it's those safety measures that those so-called safety nutz pushed that saved him from getting it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only place I’ve ever heard of APE is on these weird DCUM threads where a bunch of supporters claim it’s not a right wing organization, while at the same time saying that of course lots of democrats are going to vote for Youngkin (um, no, that’s not a thing) and we’re not anti-mask but we shouldn’t make kids wear masks and we’re all about kids’ health but we shouldn’t allow quarantine if there’s exposure. And it just goes on and on. Stop denying what you are and just do your thing. Fighting battles on DCUM because you think somebody on the internet is wrong makes it impossible to take APE seriously.

Not in APE, but there a a certain irony? tone deafness? to calling out APE like this in a thread started by someone looking to smear APE.

The safety crowd knows no depths. They are irrelevant and are bitter -- just trying to take down the bipartisan work that APE is advancing on behalf of all APS parents, including the safety crowd, by the way. I wish the safety nutz would move on and let APE do its thing.

Well. I guess APE would consider me a safety nut because I'm glad we have safety measures in schools. I'm grateful to those who advocated for them and I'm grateful to APS for putting them in place. This way my kid can attend school and hopefully not get Covid. He's already been exposed once and I'm pretty sure it's those safety measures that those so-called safety nutz pushed that saved him from getting it.

I guess you're also grateful that their work has given you time to sit around and wildly speculate about the dark agenda of APE.