[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE

[Anonymous]

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Guess we will see if APE takes an anti-masking position based on “science and data”…

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Anonymous wrote:NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board after seeing their crazy attacks last year on the School Board and on AEM. And now continuing on DCUM.

No f'ing way.

I think you are misinformed, because there are no APE members on the school board ballot.

Who are they endorsing for November?

They haven’t made any endorsements. But that doesn’t change the fact that there are no APE members on the ballot. If you believe I am wrong, please identify the APE member on the ballot.

No one said they were on the ballot. ??

As Democrats, with a candidate who participated in the ACDC process, is APE going to endorse Kadera, the D candidate?

Um, look at the very first post in this tangent where pp said “ NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board”

Ok and? That PP doesn’t mention APE being on a ballot. I read it as “thank fcking god that didn’t happen”.

Who are they going to endorse since they are “Democrats”? Kadera? Was there some obligation by participating in ACDC process?

I think APE is going to run someone again probably Miranda. Otherwise why incorporate as a political group?

I don’t think you understand what a 501c4 is. I hope you’re not the pp who said staying informed about politics is one of her hobbies.

Then please explain why they organized as a 504c4 if not to be involved in and influence future elections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guess we will see if APE takes an anti-masking position based on “science and data”…

At least you will implicitly concede they haven’t taken that position to date. Marginally more honest than the other poster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guess we will see if APE takes an anti-masking position based on “science and data”…

At least you will implicitly concede they haven’t taken that position to date. Marginally more honest than the other poster.

LOL. “Marginally”. You don’t sound biased at all.

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Anonymous wrote:NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board after seeing their crazy attacks last year on the School Board and on AEM. And now continuing on DCUM.

No f'ing way.

I think you are misinformed, because there are no APE members on the school board ballot.

Who are they endorsing for November?

They haven’t made any endorsements. But that doesn’t change the fact that there are no APE members on the ballot. If you believe I am wrong, please identify the APE member on the ballot.

No one said they were on the ballot. ??

As Democrats, with a candidate who participated in the ACDC process, is APE going to endorse Kadera, the D candidate?

Um, look at the very first post in this tangent where pp said “ NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board”

Ok and? That PP doesn’t mention APE being on a ballot. I read it as “thank fcking god that didn’t happen”.

Who are they going to endorse since they are “Democrats”? Kadera? Was there some obligation by participating in ACDC process?

I think APE is going to run someone again probably Miranda. Otherwise why incorporate as a political group?

I don’t think you understand what a 501c4 is. I hope you’re not the pp who said staying informed about politics is one of her hobbies.

Then please explain why they organized as a 504c4 if not to be involved in and influence future elections.

A 501c4 is a social welfare organization, which is allowed to engage in lobbying efforts [/i]to promote social welfare.[i] Some other 501c4 organizations you may be familiar with are the NAACP, the National Organization for Women, and the Sierra Club. These organizations all engage in lobbying efforts to promote the social welfare goals of their organizations. APE's social welfare goal is the promotion of qualify education in Arlington Public Schools.

As 501c4 organizations, these entities do not "run" candidates. They may endorse particular candidates, but they do not run candidates the way political parties do. Political parties and PACs are organized under 527, not 501, serve different purposes and are subject to very different regulations. There are meaningful substantive differences between these types of organizations, and trying to conflate them only reveals one's lack of understanding.

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Anonymous wrote:NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board after seeing their crazy attacks last year on the School Board and on AEM. And now continuing on DCUM.

No f'ing way.

I think you are misinformed, because there are no APE members on the school board ballot.

Who are they endorsing for November?

They haven’t made any endorsements. But that doesn’t change the fact that there are no APE members on the ballot. If you believe I am wrong, please identify the APE member on the ballot.

No one said they were on the ballot. ??

As Democrats, with a candidate who participated in the ACDC process, is APE going to endorse Kadera, the D candidate?

Um, look at the very first post in this tangent where pp said “ NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board”

Ok and? That PP doesn’t mention APE being on a ballot. I read it as “thank fcking god that didn’t happen”.

Who are they going to endorse since they are “Democrats”? Kadera? Was there some obligation by participating in ACDC process?

I think APE is going to run someone again probably Miranda. Otherwise why incorporate as a political group?

I don’t think you understand what a 501c4 is. I hope you’re not the pp who said staying informed about politics is one of her hobbies.

Then please explain why they organized as a 504c4 if not to be involved in and influence future elections.

A 501c4 is a social welfare organization, which is allowed to engage in lobbying efforts [/i]to promote social welfare.[i] Some other 501c4 organizations you may be familiar with are the NAACP, the National Organization for Women, and the Sierra Club. These organizations all engage in lobbying efforts to promote the social welfare goals of their organizations. APE's social welfare goal is the promotion of qualify education in Arlington Public Schools.

As 501c4 organizations, these entities do not "run" candidates. They may endorse particular candidates, but they do not run candidates the way political parties do. Political parties and PACs are organized under 527, not 501, serve different purposes and are subject to very different regulations. There are meaningful substantive differences between these types of organizations, and trying to conflate them only reveals one's lack of understanding.

DP. Are we taking bets yet on which candidates they endorse? The “scorecard” should be entertaining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Guess we will see if APE takes an anti-masking position based on “science and data”…

You mean like this?

Preliminary list of countries not masking kids 5-11 in school this school year (not exclusive):
1) United Kingdom
2) Ireland
3) The Netherlands
4) France (particular states)
5) Germany (particular states)
6) Switzerland
6) Switzerland
7) Slovenia
8) Portugal
9) Iceland
10) Norway
11) Sweden
2) Denmark
13) Finland
14) Australia
15) New Zealand

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Guess we will see if APE takes an anti-masking position based on “science and data”…

You mean like this?

Preliminary list of countries not masking kids 5-11 in school this school year (not exclusive):
1) United Kingdom
2) Ireland
3) The Netherlands
4) France (particular states)
5) Germany (particular states)
6) Switzerland
6) Switzerland
7) Slovenia
8) Portugal
9) Iceland
10) Norway
11) Sweden
2) Denmark
13) Finland
14) Australia
15) New Zealand

And are you a member of APE or more of a rogue anti-masker?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board after seeing their crazy attacks last year on the School Board and on AEM. And now continuing on DCUM.

No f'ing way.

I think you are misinformed, because there are no APE members on the school board ballot.

Who are they endorsing for November?

They haven’t made any endorsements. But that doesn’t change the fact that there are no APE members on the ballot. If you believe I am wrong, please identify the APE member on the ballot.

No one said they were on the ballot. ??

As Democrats, with a candidate who participated in the ACDC process, is APE going to endorse Kadera, the D candidate?

Um, look at the very first post in this tangent where pp said “ NO WAY do I want an APE member on the School board”

Ok and? That PP doesn’t mention APE being on a ballot. I read it as “thank fcking god that didn’t happen”.

Who are they going to endorse since they are “Democrats”? Kadera? Was there some obligation by participating in ACDC process?

I think APE is going to run someone again probably Miranda. Otherwise why incorporate as a political group?

I don’t think you understand what a 501c4 is. I hope you’re not the pp who said staying informed about politics is one of her hobbies.

Then please explain why they organized as a 504c4 if not to be involved in and influence future elections.

A 501c4 is a social welfare organization, which is allowed to engage in lobbying efforts [/i]to promote social welfare.[i] Some other 501c4 organizations you may be familiar with are the NAACP, the National Organization for Women, and the Sierra Club. These organizations all engage in lobbying efforts to promote the social welfare goals of their organizations. APE's social welfare goal is the promotion of qualify education in Arlington Public Schools.

As 501c4 organizations, these entities do not "run" candidates. They may endorse particular candidates, but they do not run candidates the way political parties do. Political parties and PACs are organized under 527, not 501, serve different purposes and are subject to very different regulations. There are meaningful substantive differences between these types of organizations, and trying to conflate them only reveals one's lack of understanding.

DP. Are we taking bets yet on which candidates they endorse? The “scorecard” should be entertaining.

There's a very narrow line between running a candidate and endorsing and lobbying for a candidate. APE is a lobbying group now and will actively engage in politics. It already did this. APE and the Miranda campaign were all the same people. Don't try to pretend otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of us at APE know who the 2 primary people are who are spreading misinformation about APE. They’ve been discussed on this board repeatedly.

We’re glad to see that we just live daily in their heads rent-free, while our 1,000+ members and huge core team go about our work. And thank you for continuing to bring attention to our organization - it just gets us more members.

I'm the OP of this thread. You don't know me.

What have I posted that wasn't factual?

Glad you like this thread. I'll continue to update now that APE has just started this more "political" phase.

DP and yes, we all know you, you post the exact same way over on AEM all. the. time.

Apparently a lot of parents share concerns over math changes - this 50 page thread in this forum regarding the change - https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/962765.page, and there are plenty other threads in Fairfax county schools and AAP.

Sadly Arlington Co is the land of lowered expectations in schools which I chalk up to the wealth of so many families to simply procure educational resources outside of school. Who can blame them? It's easier to hire a tutor vs. trying to make a systemic change in the school. I don't see you doing anything or getting a group of parents together to look at APS. All you do is post anonymous message here and nasty messages on a fb group. What does that do? What does that accomplish? Nothing except entertainment. If you are that bored, spend some time with your dog

You have posted before regarding the fact that APE members send their kids to private school. Be glad they still take even a fleeting interest in public schools because so few parents with kids in APS actually do or go to the extent of actually organizing and trying to make a change. You don't seem to get it. The more they speak up, the more the opposite side speaks up. And that's a really, really good thing. Because that's how you get parents to take an interest and take note. To opposing sides are needed or else everything is rubber stamped and no one looks closely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Guess we will see if APE takes an anti-masking position based on “science and data”…

You mean like this?

Preliminary list of countries not masking kids 5-11 in school this school year (not exclusive):
1) United Kingdom
2) Ireland
3) The Netherlands
4) France (particular states)
5) Germany (particular states)
6) Switzerland
6) Switzerland
7) Slovenia
8) Portugal
9) Iceland
10) Norway
11) Sweden
2) Denmark
13) Finland
14) Australia
15) New Zealand

eh get back to me when the US implements universal healthcare and childcare or takes strict measures like New Zealand did.

Universal healthcare? What does that have to do with a disease that is less harmful to children than the flu for which 3 free and highly effective vaccines are available for adults? And - I guess you do acknowledge it's not a risk to children then if the issue is universal healthcare, not anything of substance.

You want military lockdowns like New Zealand. Haha. Sweden had 0 lockdowns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of us at APE know who the 2 primary people are who are spreading misinformation about APE. They’ve been discussed on this board repeatedly.

We’re glad to see that we just live daily in their heads rent-free, while our 1,000+ members and huge core team go about our work. And thank you for continuing to bring attention to our organization - it just gets us more members.

I'm the OP of this thread. You don't know me.

What have I posted that wasn't factual?

Glad you like this thread. I'll continue to update now that APE has just started this more "political" phase.

DP and yes, we all know you, you post the exact same way over on AEM all. the. time.

Apparently a lot of parents share concerns over math changes - this 50 page thread in this forum regarding the change - https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/962765.page, and there are plenty other threads in Fairfax county schools and AAP.

Sadly Arlington Co is the land of lowered expectations in schools which I chalk up to the wealth of so many families to simply procure educational resources outside of school. Who can blame them? It's easier to hire a tutor vs. trying to make a systemic change in the school. I don't see you doing anything or getting a group of parents together to look at APS. All you do is post anonymous message here and nasty messages on a fb group. What does that do? What does that accomplish? Nothing except entertainment. If you are that bored, spend some time with your dog

You have posted before regarding the fact that APE members send their kids to private school. Be glad they still take even a fleeting interest in public schools because so few parents with kids in APS actually do or go to the extent of actually organizing and trying to make a change. You don't seem to get it. The more they speak up, the more the opposite side speaks up. And that's a really, really good thing. Because that's how you get parents to take an interest and take note. To opposing sides are needed or else everything is rubber stamped and no one looks closely.

You are conflating all sorts of people. No, you don’t know me. I don’t post on AEM. I don’t know where APE parents send their kids - aside from Turner sending kids to private last year.

Should you pay attention to changes to the math curriculum? Of course. APE’s newsletter about VMPI was pushing misinformation and generally was out-of-date/touch. Seemed like it was written by someone just starting to pay attention now and didn’t even know the basic facts.

I’m all for FACTUAL discussions that benefit our kids. Not these political games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of us at APE know who the 2 primary people are who are spreading misinformation about APE. They’ve been discussed on this board repeatedly.

We’re glad to see that we just live daily in their heads rent-free, while our 1,000+ members and huge core team go about our work. And thank you for continuing to bring attention to our organization - it just gets us more members.

I'm the OP of this thread. You don't know me.

What have I posted that wasn't factual?

Glad you like this thread. I'll continue to update now that APE has just started this more "political" phase.

DP and yes, we all know you, you post the exact same way over on AEM all. the. time.

Apparently a lot of parents share concerns over math changes - this 50 page thread in this forum regarding the change - https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/962765.page, and there are plenty other threads in Fairfax county schools and AAP.

Sadly Arlington Co is the land of lowered expectations in schools which I chalk up to the wealth of so many families to simply procure educational resources outside of school. Who can blame them? It's easier to hire a tutor vs. trying to make a systemic change in the school. I don't see you doing anything or getting a group of parents together to look at APS. All you do is post anonymous message here and nasty messages on a fb group. What does that do? What does that accomplish? Nothing except entertainment. If you are that bored, spend some time with your dog

You have posted before regarding the fact that APE members send their kids to private school. Be glad they still take even a fleeting interest in public schools because so few parents with kids in APS actually do or go to the extent of actually organizing and trying to make a change. You don't seem to get it. The more they speak up, the more the opposite side speaks up. And that's a really, really good thing. Because that's how you get parents to take an interest and take note. To opposing sides are needed or else everything is rubber stamped and no one looks closely.

You are conflating all sorts of people. No, you don’t know me. I don’t post on AEM. I don’t know where APE parents send their kids - aside from Turner sending kids to private last year.

Should you pay attention to changes to the math curriculum? Of course. APE’s newsletter about VMPI was pushing misinformation and generally was out-of-date/touch. Seemed like it was written by someone just starting to pay attention now and didn’t even know the basic facts.

I’m all for FACTUAL discussions that benefit our kids. Not these political games.

What actually is the misinformation about VMPI that APE pushed? I keep seeing that pushed here without specifics. I ran it by someone very steeped in this issue and they said it was pretty accurate. So now I'm just really confused. I get that the political hack that's always pushing the anit-APE stuff on AEM said it's wrong, but also didn't really specify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Guess we will see if APE takes an anti-masking position based on “science and data”…

You mean like this?

Preliminary list of countries not masking kids 5-11 in school this school year (not exclusive):
1) United Kingdom
2) Ireland
3) The Netherlands
4) France (particular states)
5) Germany (particular states)
6) Switzerland
6) Switzerland
7) Slovenia
8) Portugal
9) Iceland
10) Norway
11) Sweden
2) Denmark
13) Finland
14) Australia
15) New Zealand

And are you a member of APE or more of a rogue anti-masker?

Yes, because we all will take you at your word. This is anonymous message board; please declare yourself!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of us at APE know who the 2 primary people are who are spreading misinformation about APE. They’ve been discussed on this board repeatedly.

We’re glad to see that we just live daily in their heads rent-free, while our 1,000+ members and huge core team go about our work. And thank you for continuing to bring attention to our organization - it just gets us more members.

I'm the OP of this thread. You don't know me.

What have I posted that wasn't factual?

Glad you like this thread. I'll continue to update now that APE has just started this more "political" phase.

DP and yes, we all know you, you post the exact same way over on AEM all. the. time.

Apparently a lot of parents share concerns over math changes - this 50 page thread in this forum regarding the change - https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/962765.page, and there are plenty other threads in Fairfax county schools and AAP.

Sadly Arlington Co is the land of lowered expectations in schools which I chalk up to the wealth of so many families to simply procure educational resources outside of school. Who can blame them? It's easier to hire a tutor vs. trying to make a systemic change in the school. I don't see you doing anything or getting a group of parents together to look at APS. All you do is post anonymous message here and nasty messages on a fb group. What does that do? What does that accomplish? Nothing except entertainment. If you are that bored, spend some time with your dog

You have posted before regarding the fact that APE members send their kids to private school. Be glad they still take even a fleeting interest in public schools because so few parents with kids in APS actually do or go to the extent of actually organizing and trying to make a change. You don't seem to get it. The more they speak up, the more the opposite side speaks up. And that's a really, really good thing. Because that's how you get parents to take an interest and take note. To opposing sides are needed or else everything is rubber stamped and no one looks closely.

You are conflating all sorts of people. No, you don’t know me. I don’t post on AEM. I don’t know where APE parents send their kids - aside from Turner sending kids to private last year.

Should you pay attention to changes to the math curriculum? Of course. APE’s newsletter about VMPI was pushing misinformation and generally was out-of-date/touch. Seemed like it was written by someone just starting to pay attention now and didn’t even know the basic facts.

I’m all for FACTUAL discussions that benefit our kids. Not these political games.

What actually is the misinformation about VMPI that APE pushed? I keep seeing that pushed here without specifics. I ran it by someone very steeped in this issue and they said it was pretty accurate. So now I'm just really confused. I get that the political hack that's always pushing the anit-APE stuff on AEM said it's wrong, but also didn't really specify.

It was discussed on this thread back on pages 18-19. Need me to rehash again?

I don't remember what was discussed on AEM - did they actually discuss VMPI? It's been a "concern" for some people in FCPS but I don't remember much conversation on AEM.