Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

Some people just take a while to get reality into their thick skull.

But yes, this is what clubs will do. After a while they'll drop the hammer and say play on the team your grade or be demoted. Once this happens they'll play on the team thats their grade.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

Some people just take a while to get reality into their thick skull.

But yes, this is what clubs will do. After a while they'll drop the hammer and say play on the team your grade or be demoted. Once this happens they'll play on the team thats their grade.

In what I've seen grade plays no role.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

I seen it a bunch of times where a kid playing off the bench and gets rattled off the pitch. Nice challenge but humbling. Not seen one stay up yet on competitive boys teams. I get the impression that the club is showing the parent that the kid isn't ready and is best dominating on their regular team. I will also say that the parent almost always brags that the kid plays up even if it was just two games a couple of years ago. Lol

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

Some people just take a while to get reality into their thick skull.

But yes, this is what clubs will do. After a while they'll drop the hammer and say play on the team your grade or be demoted. Once this happens they'll play on the team thats their grade.

In what I've seen grade plays no role.

Thats because with BY nobody was able to play down a grade. Now with SY Aug/Sept birthdays potentially depending on when their school district started can. These are the ones that clubs will merged up to a coreect grade in school team over time but specifically before high school.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

Some people just take a while to get reality into their thick skull.

But yes, this is what clubs will do. After a while they'll drop the hammer and say play on the team your grade or be demoted. Once this happens they'll play on the team thats their grade.

In what I've seen grade plays no role.

Thats because with BY nobody was able to play down a grade. Now with SY Aug/Sept birthdays potentially depending on when their school district started can. These are the ones that clubs will merged up to a coreect grade in school team over time but specifically before high school.

Clubs said that performance matters to play up not grades at school. They want kids playing on age but case by case excepts will be made.

Why do you need this so bad? Someone not benefiting from trying to go grade year pushing so hard to cyberbully kids by calling them losers and cheaters when they are simple playing where clubs tells them to play wouldn't make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

Some people just take a while to get reality into their thick skull.

But yes, this is what clubs will do. After a while they'll drop the hammer and say play on the team your grade or be demoted. Once this happens they'll play on the team thats their grade.

In what I've seen grade plays no role.

Thats because with BY nobody was able to play down a grade. Now with SY Aug/Sept birthdays potentially depending on when their school district started can. These are the ones that clubs will merged up to a coreect grade in school team over time but specifically before high school.

Clubs said that performance matters to play up not grades at school. They want kids playing on age but case by case excepts will be made.

Why do you need this so bad? Someone not benefiting from trying to go grade year pushing so hard to cyberbully kids by calling them losers and cheaters when they are simple playing where clubs tells them to play wouldn't make sense.

You are the only loser trying to recruit parents to play their kids on a grade down team.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

Some people just take a while to get reality into their thick skull.

But yes, this is what clubs will do. After a while they'll drop the hammer and say play on the team your grade or be demoted. Once this happens they'll play on the team thats their grade.

In what I've seen grade plays no role.

Thats because with BY nobody was able to play down a grade. Now with SY Aug/Sept birthdays potentially depending on when their school district started can. These are the ones that clubs will merged up to a coreect grade in school team over time but specifically before high school.

Clubs said that performance matters to play up not grades at school. They want kids playing on age but case by case excepts will be made.

Why do you need this so bad? Someone not benefiting from trying to go grade year pushing so hard to cyberbully kids by calling them losers and cheaters when they are simple playing where clubs tells them to play wouldn't make sense.

You are the only loser trying to recruit parents to play their kids on a grade down team.

See that's the thing, I'm not telling anyone what to do. I not going to try to online browbeat anyone into anything. I just show where you are factually wrong.

Playing up has also been case by case based on talent. Nothing new going from SY to BY and back again.

There are real tragedies in life and your girl getting bumped down by an older girl is what has been happening in youth soccer for as long as youth soccer has been going on. She just needs to find another Socal team or outcompetes the competition.

It's going to be ok. Playing down isn't allowed except for Biobanding, everyone else is allowed to play by the rules. Inventing your own unwritten rules and moral code is pointless and calling out little kids as cheats and losers is pathetic beyond belief.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Is there a part about "Grade" on my DS MLSN registration that I missed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Is there a part about "Grade" on my DS MLSN registration that I missed?

Boys are different because theres international talent to compete against for roster spots. Also boys have biobanding and a true Academy development environment. What this all translates to is theres very few that thread the needle. Play down if you want but its not what generates interest.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

Some people just take a while to get reality into their thick skull.

But yes, this is what clubs will do. After a while they'll drop the hammer and say play on the team your grade or be demoted. Once this happens they'll play on the team thats their grade.

In what I've seen grade plays no role.

Thats because with BY nobody was able to play down a grade. Now with SY Aug/Sept birthdays potentially depending on when their school district started can. These are the ones that clubs will merged up to a coreect grade in school team over time but specifically before high school.

The way you define it, in BY more than half the age group "played down" if they played on age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Is there a part about "Grade" on my DS MLSN registration that I missed?

Boys are different because theres international talent to compete against for roster spots. Also boys have biobanding and a true Academy development environment. What this all translates to is theres very few that thread the needle. Play down if you want but its not what generates interest.

Very few make it regardless.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

Some people just take a while to get reality into their thick skull.

But yes, this is what clubs will do. After a while they'll drop the hammer and say play on the team your grade or be demoted. Once this happens they'll play on the team thats their grade.

In what I've seen grade plays no role.

Thats because with BY nobody was able to play down a grade. Now with SY Aug/Sept birthdays potentially depending on when their school district started can. These are the ones that clubs will merged up to a coreect grade in school team over time but specifically before high school.

The way you define it, in BY more than half the age group "played down" if they played on age.

No clue what you're trying to say. You play on the team that's you're grade in school. The "problem" with BY if you want to call it that is Aug-Dec birthdays get forced to play on a grade up team and are misaligned for college recruiting. On a positive note being able to play on a grade up BY team and get noticed is 1000x better than playing on a grade down team in SY and getting ignored by college coaches.

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Makes no sense. Players aren't dual rostered within clubs.

Most often a kid will just play up as a guest and be rostered at their correct age group and more often those "guests" will find there way on tournament rosters, but I've seen it happen to be rostered in league at both. But when that's happened, the player often ends up primarily on one team, anyway, once it sinks it trying to be on 2 teams is too much.

Some people just take a while to get reality into their thick skull.

But yes, this is what clubs will do. After a while they'll drop the hammer and say play on the team your grade or be demoted. Once this happens they'll play on the team thats their grade.

In what I've seen grade plays no role.

Thats because with BY nobody was able to play down a grade. Now with SY Aug/Sept birthdays potentially depending on when their school district started can. These are the ones that clubs will merged up to a coreect grade in school team over time but specifically before high school.

The way you define it, in BY more than half the age group "played down" if they played on age.

No clue what you're trying to say. You play on the team that's you're grade in school. The "problem" with BY if you want to call it that is Aug-Dec birthdays get forced to play on a grade up team and are misaligned for college recruiting. On a positive note being able to play on a grade up BY team and get noticed is 1000x better than playing on a grade down team in SY and getting ignored by college coaches.

This isn't true for about 10-5 percent of kids in SY, "You play on the team that's you're grade in school. ". On boys side MLSN1 misalign for so many. College recruiting doesn't care your youth team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What clubs will do in SY is Dual Roster Aug birthdays on the grade down team and the correct grade team at the same time. This will give the cheater parents looking to play down what they want. Then over time the club will suggest and more likely the kid will ask to play on the team with kids their grade in school. By 8th grade all the Aug birthdays will be playing on the team thats their grade in school because clubs wont want to deal with 9th grade players playing high school soccer on a team with 8th grade players. Also players would be aligned for college recrutiing.

Unfortunately you have to give the play down losers what they want when kids are young.

Is there a part about "Grade" on my DS MLSN registration that I missed?

Boys are different because theres international talent to compete against for roster spots. Also boys have biobanding and a true Academy development environment. What this all translates to is theres very few that thread the needle. Play down if you want but its not what generates interest.

Not playing up is the key to confidence and better play for 99 out 100 boys. Generating interest from colleges is a misread of recruiting, you have to be proactive and it doesn't matter the team you are currently on or your age or your country. Be the best player and be smart enough to get into the school. But there are so few college men's soccer spots that you better have a plan b.