ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You have no idea what anybody would do in that situation.

All these armchair critics, I swear.

I do!

I’m an elementary school teacher who does carpool drop off and pick up duty.

I walk in and out and amongst cars, often large vans, looking out for children, all the time. I walk around “standing” cars (Ie not parked; parents are in the and can drive away at any moment) while I may sometimes walk a child around the car and help them get into their seat.

Cars pulling out out and around other cars with no warning sometimes. Parents are distracted; in a rush. Parents sometimes mouth off to us teachers, for just doing our jobs.

I know the rules- if you are in a street or driving lane of a parking lot, you need to stay alert and stay out of the way of a car.

Until the ice agent decided to pull his gun, the situation was no more dangerous than what I face on a daily basis.

I have no doubt that I would have handled the situation far better than he did. Because I would have just let her drive her car away instead of deliberately stepping in front of a car to try to use the force of my bodily presence to stop the car.

Are they intentionally trying to block you and not moving when you ask them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

She was turning the steering wheel AWAY from him.

I wasn’t there, but the visibility through most windshields is not great especially in the winter with road salt and grime. What was he supposed to be watching? Her turning the wheel? The tires themselves? The wife exiting the vehicle , yelling and acting unpredictably? All simultaneously? Yeah, right.

A horrible and volatile situation. I hope that there will be scene reconstructions done to clarify the situation. Until then, I can’t be judge and jury (and neither should all the hysterical Tik tokkers and redditors.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

Killing the driver of a moving car makes that car even more dangerous now nobody is controlling it. If Ross was scared for his life because of the moving car, killing Good put him, his coworkers, and everybody else on that street in even more danger.

Any response to that?

Watch the video embedded in this story. You can start at 4:40 if you don’t care about the lead up.

https://www.police1.com/officer-shootings/video-ind-officers-return-fire-through-cruiser-windshield-during-pursuit-shootout

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

Killing the driver of a moving car makes that car even more dangerous now nobody is controlling it. If Ross was scared for his life because of the moving car, killing Good put him, his coworkers, and everybody else on that street in even more danger.

Any response to that?

Watch the video embedded in this story. You can start at 4:40 if you don’t care about the lead up.

https://www.police1.com/officer-shootings/video-ind-officers-return-fire-through-cruiser-windshield-during-pursuit-shootout

I’ve seen the videos. I’m asking you about your thoughts on killing the driver of a car, making it now uncontrollable while there were people on the road. My thoughts are that the now driverless car is now more dangerous that it was when Good was alive. Your thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

She was turning the steering wheel AWAY from him.

I wasn’t there, but the visibility through most windshields is not great especially in the winter with road salt and grime. What was he supposed to be watching? Her turning the wheel? The tires themselves? The wife exiting the vehicle , yelling and acting unpredictably? All simultaneously? Yeah, right.

A horrible and volatile situation. I hope that there will be scene reconstructions done to clarify the situation. Until then, I can’t be judge and jury (and neither should all the hysterical Tik tokkers and redditors.)

The video from his body cam shows exactly what he saw and it was all of the above...her hands, the wheel turning away, and so on. When there is so much video footage, you don't really need scene reconstruction because everyone can see exactly what happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

She was turning the steering wheel AWAY from him.

I wasn’t there, but the visibility through most windshields is not great especially in the winter with road salt and grime. What was he supposed to be watching? Her turning the wheel? The tires themselves? The wife exiting the vehicle , yelling and acting unpredictably? All simultaneously? Yeah, right.

A horrible and volatile situation. I hope that there will be scene reconstructions done to clarify the situation. Until then, I can’t be judge and jury (and neither should all the hysterical Tik tokkers and redditors.)

It's on the video he moronically released. You can see her turning the steering wheel clear as day. The same way you see below turning the steering wheel in the grocery store parking lot.

Aside, he saw clear enough to get off two accurate headshots into a moving vehicle, yeah?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don Lemon: “Is this what you voted for, MAGA? You f****** idiots. You think this is good? How do you even sleep at night? Why would you even want this job? Is your ego and your penis that small that you need to harrass people to feel like a man?”

Who is Don Lemon?

Have you been in a coma or in another galaxy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

She was turning the steering wheel AWAY from him.

I wasn’t there, but the visibility through most windshields is not great especially in the winter with road salt and grime. What was he supposed to be watching? Her turning the wheel? The tires themselves? The wife exiting the vehicle , yelling and acting unpredictably? All simultaneously? Yeah, right.

A horrible and volatile situation. I hope that there will be scene reconstructions done to clarify the situation. Until then, I can’t be judge and jury (and neither should all the hysterical Tik tokkers and redditors.)

The video from his body cam shows exactly what he saw and it was all of the above...her hands, the wheel turning away, and so on. When there is so much video footage, you don't really need scene reconstruction because everyone can see exactly what happened.

The video can only show so much. Other important factors are the speed the car was moving and how fast she was accelerating. Sounds like she floored the accelerator and that is why more analysis needs to be done.

The Honda pilot has an Event Data Recorder
Unless she had the top trim line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

She was turning the steering wheel AWAY from him.

I wasn’t there, but the visibility through most windshields is not great especially in the winter with road salt and grime. What was he supposed to be watching? Her turning the wheel? The tires themselves? The wife exiting the vehicle , yelling and acting unpredictably? All simultaneously? Yeah, right.

A horrible and volatile situation. I hope that there will be scene reconstructions done to clarify the situation. Until then, I can’t be judge and jury (and neither should all the hysterical Tik tokkers and redditors.)

The video from his body cam shows exactly what he saw and it was all of the above...her hands, the wheel turning away, and so on. When there is so much video footage, you don't really need scene reconstruction because everyone can see exactly what happened.

The video can only show so much. Other important factors are the speed the car was moving and how fast she was accelerating. Sounds like she floored the accelerator and that is why more analysis needs to be done.

The Honda pilot has an Event Data Recorder
Unless she had the top trim line.

She was pulling out of a parking spot. I mean he was able to unholster his weapon, aim, and get off accurate head shots.

[Anonymous]

The rest of the world knows exactly what happened. A U.S. federal agent murdered an unarmed U.S. citizen. No propaganda or spin from the rest of the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

She was turning the steering wheel AWAY from him.

I wasn’t there, but the visibility through most windshields is not great especially in the winter with road salt and grime. What was he supposed to be watching? Her turning the wheel? The tires themselves? The wife exiting the vehicle , yelling and acting unpredictably? All simultaneously? Yeah, right.

A horrible and volatile situation. I hope that there will be scene reconstructions done to clarify the situation. Until then, I can’t be judge and jury (and neither should all the hysterical Tik tokkers and redditors.)

Umm, being able to discern if a car is coming towards you or not, especially if you are in law-enforcement, is not an extraordinary effort or something that requires critical thinking skills. Also, the visibility remark is not at all true. As someone who has lived in the Great Lakes region, it's very common to stock up on windshield washer fluid and get your car washed every 2-3 weeks. Also, we've seen the pictures of the Honda Pilot, the windshield is pretty clean.

So, no, beloved, you certainly were not there, and maybe you should follow your own advice and not rush to make any judgements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

She was turning the steering wheel AWAY from him.

I wasn’t there, but the visibility through most windshields is not great especially in the winter with road salt and grime. What was he supposed to be watching? Her turning the wheel? The tires themselves? The wife exiting the vehicle , yelling and acting unpredictably? All simultaneously? Yeah, right.

A horrible and volatile situation. I hope that there will be scene reconstructions done to clarify the situation. Until then, I can’t be judge and jury (and neither should all the hysterical Tik tokkers and redditors.)

The video from his body cam shows exactly what he saw and it was all of the above...her hands, the wheel turning away, and so on. When there is so much video footage, you don't really need scene reconstruction because everyone can see exactly what happened.

The video can only show so much. Other important factors are the speed the car was moving and how fast she was accelerating. Sounds like she floored the accelerator and that is why more analysis needs to be done.

The Honda pilot has an Event Data Recorder
Unless she had the top trim line.

She was pulling out of a parking spot. I mean he was able to unholster his weapon, aim, and get off accurate head shots.

Drawing from a holster and opening fire takes less than two seconds for a trained LEO on high alert for threats. Being slow on the draw can mean the difference between living or not when you're a LEO, and training reflects that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

She was turning the steering wheel AWAY from him.

I wasn’t there, but the visibility through most windshields is not great especially in the winter with road salt and grime. What was he supposed to be watching? Her turning the wheel? The tires themselves? The wife exiting the vehicle , yelling and acting unpredictably? All simultaneously? Yeah, right.

A horrible and volatile situation. I hope that there will be scene reconstructions done to clarify the situation. Until then, I can’t be judge and jury (and neither should all the hysterical Tik tokkers and redditors.)

The video from his body cam shows exactly what he saw and it was all of the above...her hands, the wheel turning away, and so on. When there is so much video footage, you don't really need scene reconstruction because everyone can see exactly what happened.

The video can only show so much. Other important factors are the speed the car was moving and how fast she was accelerating. Sounds like she floored the accelerator and that is why more analysis needs to be done.

The Honda pilot has an Event Data Recorder
Unless she had the top trim line.

When specifically does it sound like that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The rest of the world knows exactly what happened. A U.S. federal agent murdered an unarmed U.S. citizen. No propaganda or spin from the rest of the world.

Because the rest of the world was present, had unobstructed vision, and knows whether the Agent reasonably perceived a threat of serious harm or death to himself or to others given the totality of the circumstances? Doubtful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

She was turning the steering wheel AWAY from him.

I wasn’t there, but the visibility through most windshields is not great especially in the winter with road salt and grime. What was he supposed to be watching? Her turning the wheel? The tires themselves? The wife exiting the vehicle , yelling and acting unpredictably? All simultaneously? Yeah, right.

A horrible and volatile situation. I hope that there will be scene reconstructions done to clarify the situation. Until then, I can’t be judge and jury (and neither should all the hysterical Tik tokkers and redditors.)

The video from his body cam shows exactly what he saw and it was all of the above...her hands, the wheel turning away, and so on. When there is so much video footage, you don't really need scene reconstruction because everyone can see exactly what happened.

The video can only show so much. Other important factors are the speed the car was moving and how fast she was accelerating. Sounds like she floored the accelerator and that is why more analysis needs to be done.

The Honda pilot has an Event Data Recorder
Unless she had the top trim line.

She was pulling out of a parking spot. I mean he was able to unholster his weapon, aim, and get off accurate head shots.

Drawing from a holster and opening fire takes less than two seconds for a trained LEO on high alert for threats. Being slow on the draw can mean the difference between living or not when you're a LEO, and training reflects that.

Your point?