ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

Killing the driver of a moving car makes that car even more dangerous now nobody is controlling it. If Ross was scared for his life because of the moving car, killing Good put him, his coworkers, and everybody else on that street in even more danger.

Any response to that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP here, totally horrified and disgusted by this incident: however, I will not be joining the rioters and those who seeking vigilante justice. The guy likely has a defense since the driver was turning the steering wheel as her wife shouted “drive baby drive!”

How was he to know if her intent was to flee or cause harm and mow him down? He was faced with a split second decision.

Killing the driver of a moving car makes that car even more dangerous now nobody is controlling it. If Ross was scared for his life because of the moving car, killing Good put him, his coworkers, and everybody else on that street in even more danger.

Any response to that?

This is why ICE Barbie originally said that the ICE people were stuck in the snow and Good was driving straight for them.

[Anonymous]

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You have no idea what anybody would do in that situation.

All these armchair critics, I swear.

I do!

I’m an elementary school teacher who does carpool drop off and pick up duty.

I walk in and out and amongst cars, often large vans, looking out for children, all the time. I walk around “standing” cars (Ie not parked; parents are in the and can drive away at any moment) while I may sometimes walk a child around the car and help them get into their seat.

Cars pulling out out and around other cars with no warning sometimes. Parents are distracted; in a rush. Parents sometimes mouth off to us teachers, for just doing our jobs.

I know the rules- if you are in a street or driving lane of a parking lot, you need to stay alert and stay out of the way of a car.

Until the ice agent decided to pull his gun, the situation was no more dangerous than what I face on a daily basis.

I have no doubt that I would have handled the situation far better than he did. Because I would have just let her drive her car away instead of deliberately stepping in front of a car to try to use the force of my bodily presence to stop the car.

[Anonymous]

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I hold a research grant focused on vehicle ramming attacks, and I curate what I believe is the largest database of these incidents, more than 500 cases worldwide since 1987.
As a result, I have watched more video footage of vehicle ramming attacks than most people ever will.

That is why I am going to be direct about what the available video shows in the killing of Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026. Based on the publicly available footage described by multiple outlets, I do not see indicators consistent with a deliberate vehicle ramming attempt.
When authorities claim “she tried to run over an officer,” they are not just offering an interpretation. They are trying to lock in a narrative that justifies lethal force after the fact.

What I see, and what is being described in reporting based on video review, looks like ambiguity and escalation, not a textbook ramming attempt. Reports indicate the agent was not in the vehicle’s direct path when shots were fired, and that at least some shots were fired from the side as the vehicle moved away.

This matters because I know what ramming attempts look like when they are real.
Across hundreds of cases, intentional vehicle ramming attacks tend to leave a signature in the footage.
* A purposeful approach line toward a person.
* Commitment to that line.
* Steering corrections that track a target.
* Acceleration and follow through.

Those indicators are the difference between “the vehicle moved” and “the vehicle was used as the weapon.” When the state kills first and invents the threat afterward, it is not policing, it is death squad behavior.

~ Yannick Veilleux-Lepage, PhD
Associate Professor at the Royal Military College
of Canada

So the ice agent should know what this expert knows?
I’m not defending the agent. I’m calling this out as a poor, specific argument.

Everybody on this board would have avoided Good's car by just standing in place or taking a very casual step to the right. He's making the "fear for his life" defense because that's literally all he has. And it comes across as completely laughable to anybody who actually watches the video.

You have no idea what anybody would do in that situation.

All these armchair critics, I swear.

There wasn't even a reason to pull their service vehicles over and get out of their pick up trucks. It all went down from there. They could have just continued on to their break.

I would love someone to address that. All the other cars went through. Why did they stop and force a confrontation?

They are not traffic cops so since she wasn't physically impeding them...

Any thoughts?

They stopped because she was creating a blockade and a road hazard. A car that is not disabled, and is parked perpendicular in the road both causes a back up, is suspicious, and a safety hazard. They were absolutely right to investigate and tell her to move. That is not normal behavior- to put your car sideways in the road and creates a hazard to all other drivers, not just law enforcement.

That's why these highly trained ICE agents, after detaining the driver of a vehicle on a high-traffic road, left the vehicle in the road, in neutral, and it rolled and caused an accident. (I've seen video of the vehicles that collided with it, and it is included in the lawsuit filed by the state.) There are also reports of agents brake-checking cars and a video of them ramming a car at a red light (but not pursuing that vehicle, instead they turned onto antother road).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Repost

I hold a research grant focused on vehicle ramming attacks, and I curate what I believe is the largest database of these incidents, more than 500 cases worldwide since 1987.
As a result, I have watched more video footage of vehicle ramming attacks than most people ever will.

That is why I am going to be direct about what the available video shows in the killing of Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026. Based on the publicly available footage described by multiple outlets, I do not see indicators consistent with a deliberate vehicle ramming attempt.
When authorities claim “she tried to run over an officer,” they are not just offering an interpretation. They are trying to lock in a narrative that justifies lethal force after the fact.

What I see, and what is being described in reporting based on video review, looks like ambiguity and escalation, not a textbook ramming attempt. Reports indicate the agent was not in the vehicle’s direct path when shots were fired, and that at least some shots were fired from the side as the vehicle moved away.

This matters because I know what ramming attempts look like when they are real.
Across hundreds of cases, intentional vehicle ramming attacks tend to leave a signature in the footage.
* A purposeful approach line toward a person.
* Commitment to that line.
* Steering corrections that track a target.
* Acceleration and follow through.

Those indicators are the difference between “the vehicle moved” and “the vehicle was used as the weapon.” When the state kills first and invents the threat afterward, it is not policing, it is death squad behavior.

~ Yannick Veilleux-Lepage, PhD
Associate Professor at the Royal Military College
of Canada

So the ice agent should know what this expert knows?
I’m not defending the agent. I’m calling this out as a poor, specific argument.

Everybody on this board would have avoided Good's car by just standing in place or taking a very casual step to the right. He's making the "fear for his life" defense because that's literally all he has. And it comes across as completely laughable to anybody who actually watches the video.

You have no idea what anybody would do in that situation.

All these armchair critics, I swear.

There wasn't even a reason to pull their service vehicles over and get out of their pick up trucks. It all went down from there. They could have just continued on to their break.

I would love someone to address that. All the other cars went through. Why did they stop and force a confrontation?

They are not traffic cops so since she wasn't physically impeding them...

Any thoughts?

They stopped because she was creating a blockade and a road hazard. A car that is not disabled, and is parked perpendicular in the road both causes a back up, is suspicious, and a safety hazard. They were absolutely right to investigate and tell her to move. That is not normal behavior- to put your car sideways in the road and creates a hazard to all other drivers, not just law enforcement.

That's why these highly trained ICE agents, after detaining the driver of a vehicle on a high-traffic road, left the vehicle in the road, in neutral, and it rolled and caused an accident. (I've seen video of the vehicles that collided with it, and it is included in the lawsuit filed by the state.) There are also reports of agents brake-checking cars and a video of them ramming a car at a red light (but not pursuing that vehicle, instead they turned onto antother road).

They are going to wind up hurting someone totally uninvolved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You have no idea what anybody would do in that situation.

All these armchair critics, I swear.

I do!

I’m an elementary school teacher who does carpool drop off and pick up duty.

I walk in and out and amongst cars, often large vans, looking out for children, all the time. I walk around “standing” cars (Ie not parked; parents are in the and can drive away at any moment) while I may sometimes walk a child around the car and help them get into their seat.

Cars pulling out out and around other cars with no warning sometimes. Parents are distracted; in a rush. Parents sometimes mouth off to us teachers, for just doing our jobs.

I know the rules- if you are in a street or driving lane of a parking lot, you need to stay alert and stay out of the way of a car.

Until the ice agent decided to pull his gun, the situation was no more dangerous than what I face on a daily basis.

I have no doubt that I would have handled the situation far better than he did. Because I would have just let her drive her car away instead of deliberately stepping in front of a car to try to use the force of my bodily presence to stop the car.

Exactly this. He didn't even need to move to avoid the vehicle. He stepped into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the ICE agents aren’t as dumb as we thought.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/immigration-agents-terrified-by-ice

Well, I don't know, if Dan Bovino felt compelled to issue a "legal refresher" memo telling them that refusing to follow commands is not cause to arrest under 18 USC 111.

Bet that's a surprise to all the people saying she did this to herself. This appears to mean the orders to get out of the car were unlawful, and had she survived and been charged with assault the case would have been dismissed.

[Anonymous]

He thinks this will help public opinion.

Do the people of Minnesota really want to live in a community in which there are thousands of already convicted murderers, drug dealers and addicts, rapists, violent released and escaped prisoners, dangerous people from foreign mental institutions and insane asylums, and other deadly criminals too dangerous to even mention. All the patriots of ICE want to do is remove them from your neighborhood and send them back to the prisons and mental institutions from where they came, most in foreign Countries who illegally entered the USA though Sleepy Joe Biden’s HORRIBLE Open Border’s Policy. Every place we go, crime comes down. In Chicago, despite a weak and incompetent Governor and Mayor fighting us all the way, a big improvement was made. Thousands of Criminals were removed! Minnesota Democrats love the unrest that anarchists and professional agitators are causing because it gets the spotlight off of the 19 Billion Dollars that was stolen by really bad and deranged people. FEAR NOT, GREAT PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA, THE DAY OF RECKONING & RETRIBUTION IS COMING!



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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He thinks this will help public opinion.

Do the people of Minnesota really want to live in a community in which there are thousands of already convicted murderers, drug dealers and addicts, rapists, violent released and escaped prisoners, dangerous people from foreign mental institutions and insane asylums, and other deadly criminals too dangerous to even mention. All the patriots of ICE want to do is remove them from your neighborhood and send them back to the prisons and mental institutions from where they came, most in foreign Countries who illegally entered the USA though Sleepy Joe Biden’s HORRIBLE Open Border’s Policy. Every place we go, crime comes down. In Chicago, despite a weak and incompetent Governor and Mayor fighting us all the way, a big improvement was made. Thousands of Criminals were removed! Minnesota Democrats love the unrest that anarchists and professional agitators are causing because it gets the spotlight off of the 19 Billion Dollars that was stolen by really bad and deranged people. FEAR NOT, GREAT PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA, THE DAY OF RECKONING & RETRIBUTION IS COMING!



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He probably doesn’t like that Minnesota is fighting back. Nobody is running scared from them at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Minneapolis is an occupied city. ICE is Trump’s private army of thugs. Would much rather have illegal immigrants vs illegal police state.

And you is what is wrong with democrats in this country follows the laws and don’t have problem. If you want to protest protest congress to change the laws not interfere with federal investigations.

Looks like the paid Noem ICE goon-squad are on DC. Looks like the grammar police haven't knocked on her door. My bet is she couldn't pass an open-book test either.

SMDH.

[Anonymous]

The DOJ is trying to pin charges on the wife instead of the officer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You have no idea what anybody would do in that situation.

All these armchair critics, I swear.

I do!

I’m an elementary school teacher who does carpool drop off and pick up duty.

I walk in and out and amongst cars, often large vans, looking out for children, all the time. I walk around “standing” cars (Ie not parked; parents are in the and can drive away at any moment) while I may sometimes walk a child around the car and help them get into their seat.

Cars pulling out out and around other cars with no warning sometimes. Parents are distracted; in a rush. Parents sometimes mouth off to us teachers, for just doing our jobs.

I know the rules- if you are in a street or driving lane of a parking lot, you need to stay alert and stay out of the way of a car.

Until the ice agent decided to pull his gun, the situation was no more dangerous than what I face on a daily basis.

I have no doubt that I would have handled the situation far better than he did. Because I would have just let her drive her car away instead of deliberately stepping in front of a car to try to use the force of my bodily presence to stop the car.

Exactly this. He didn't even need to move to avoid the vehicle. He stepped into it.

Dean Withers' IG break down of the footage shows he is standing on the ball of his right foot and calf forward toward the car when he first shot. If you're getting mowed over, the body's instinct would take over, and you'd probably fall down backward as a reflex because your weight would shift AWAY from the car.

I mentioned earlier that people pointed out that right after her wife insults him, he shifts his phone from his right to left hand because he already knows he's going to pull his gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Minneapolis is an occupied city. ICE is Trump’s private army of thugs. Would much rather have illegal immigrants vs illegal police state.

And you is what is wrong with democrats in this country follows the laws and don’t have problem. If you want to protest protest congress to change the laws not interfere with federal investigations.

Interacting with Good was part of an investigation?

Part of the investigation was going through the neighborhood, house by house, in order to identify people who have a removal order. Good parked her vehicle perpendicular to the traffic, obstructing the federal agents in the middle of investigation. They politely to ask her to move the vehicle. She refused. They ordered her to step out from the vehicle. She refused, and began driving/fleeing the scene/disobeying the order of LEO. At the same time her wife/girlfriend/husband was in a close proximity to the LEO, inciting Good to flee or to run over the officer.

The jury will convict this guy with evidence, not a false MAGA narrative like yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He thinks this will help public opinion.

Do the people of Minnesota really want to live in a community in which there are thousands of already convicted murderers, drug dealers and addicts, rapists, violent released and escaped prisoners, dangerous people from foreign mental institutions and insane asylums, and other deadly criminals too dangerous to even mention. All the patriots of ICE want to do is remove them from your neighborhood and send them back to the prisons and mental institutions from where they came, most in foreign Countries who illegally entered the USA though Sleepy Joe Biden’s HORRIBLE Open Border’s Policy. Every place we go, crime comes down. In Chicago, despite a weak and incompetent Governor and Mayor fighting us all the way, a big improvement was made. Thousands of Criminals were removed! Minnesota Democrats love the unrest that anarchists and professional agitators are causing because it gets the spotlight off of the 19 Billion Dollars that was stolen by really bad and deranged people. FEAR NOT, GREAT PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA, THE DAY OF RECKONING & RETRIBUTION IS COMING!



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Trump still doesn’t know the difference between somebody seeking asylum and an insane asylum.

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QUINNIPIAC: “.. Republicans (77 - 10 percent) think the shooting was justified, while Democrats (92 - 4 percent) and independents (59 - 28 percent) think the shooting was not justified.”