Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m worried that the Queen’s health will suffer with the horrible crises of Andrew and Megxit together with her husband’s very fragile health.

He is 98. She is 93. I mean, no ill will and she seems remarkably healthy and alert, but they are very elderly people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one of the most important points has been stated for other reasons in this thread, and that is that Harry is not in the succession line. His role as “spare” basically ended the moment George was born. It’s not up to he and Meghan to carry the Monarchy, or to gain favour for it... that’s up to the succession line, who will positions of “rule”.

Certainly he has been a prominent member, but now there is the natural shift as normal life goes on. He has helped Kate and Will through their early years of marriage and child rearing, and now it’s his turn to look after his life. I’m not sure why this comes as such a surprise to everyone.

Plain and simple, Harry and Will hold very different positions, and that seems to get clouded as they’re brothers.

Agreed. These points are getting lost in all the hatred zinging through this thread. Harry's job is done - it's now up to William and Kate to run the show. They must be the focus as they have two future monarchs in their household and it seems like they are done having children.

Further, Charles said that its a priority to slim down the Crown's dependents. If you want to slim down, you need to give people an off-ramp to establish independent lives and careers. Once you're past the age of 40, the opportunities are largely gone.

The path Harry is forging right now is going to affect William's family. He has two younger kids who will need an off-ramp to independent lives, along with his grandkids. William has an interest in Harry/Meghan being treated fairly and maintaining a positive working relationship with the Buckingham Palace.

I think it's fine for them to forge some sort of independent life as their royal relevancy grows less, well, relevant. The real controversy is not that, but the way it's playing out and being handled. Everything from the claims of racism, whether it's legitimate or not, to unfair press and too much press attention, to the way Meghan sort of basically just ran away and wouldn't face the royal family after the announcement, seems rather petulant. And people have real legitimate concerns about the Sussex "brand" being used to make a profit. The Duchy Original profits goes to a charitable foundation, not the Prince of Wales' own pockets. But Meghan and Harry want to become financially independent despite already having a net worth people are saying is at $40 million. They're not stepping back quietly but apparently to forge a new life as influencers, but what influence do they have without the royal status? And they want to make lots of money as influencers? The other royals that faded away like those previous generations did so quietly to the country and lived a quiet life. But that's not what's happening here, is it? They still want to be celebs, or at least she does.

I suppose we'll see what happens. I don't think either are malicious or deliberate or cunning but I don't think they've handled it well or really have a good idea of how to forge a future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one of the most important points has been stated for other reasons in this thread, and that is that Harry is not in the succession line. His role as “spare” basically ended the moment George was born. It’s not up to he and Meghan to carry the Monarchy, or to gain favour for it... that’s up to the succession line, who will positions of “rule”.

Certainly he has been a prominent member, but now there is the natural shift as normal life goes on. He has helped Kate and Will through their early years of marriage and child rearing, and now it’s his turn to look after his life. I’m not sure why this comes as such a surprise to everyone.

Plain and simple, Harry and Will hold very different positions, and that seems to get clouded as they’re brothers.

Agreed. These points are getting lost in all the hatred zinging through this thread. Harry's job is done - it's now up to William and Kate to run the show. They must be the focus as they have two future monarchs in their household and it seems like they are done having children.

Further, Charles said that its a priority to slim down the Crown's dependents. If you want to slim down, you need to give people an off-ramp to establish independent lives and careers. Once you're past the age of 40, the opportunities are largely gone.

The path Harry is forging right now is going to affect William's family. He has two younger kids who will need an off-ramp to independent lives, along with his grandkids. William has an interest in Harry/Meghan being treated fairly and maintaining a positive working relationship with the Buckingham Palace.

They have three future monarchs. Charlotte is directly in line to the throne due to the change in succession laws. Realistically she'll probably never get there.

I totally agree with the rest on slimming down the monarchy - if you're going to slim you have to let it happen.

I heard a segment on NPR as well as a lot of other reporting and definitely got the impression that there are some courtiers that really had it out for Harry and Meghan, leaked their plans to the press and Harry and Meghan decided to go ahead with their announcement. If the rest of the royals don't like then they need to get their people in line.

No, they have two - William and George, unless something happens to him. While all the children are eligible for succession, it will be the child that takes it whose children will be next in line. Kind of how Harry was third until George was born.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank God for the good news of Kate’s pregnancy! Nothing like a new baby to cheer people up!

She’s not pregnant you idiot. Louis is one year old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one of the most important points has been stated for other reasons in this thread, and that is that Harry is not in the succession line. His role as “spare” basically ended the moment George was born. It’s not up to he and Meghan to carry the Monarchy, or to gain favour for it... that’s up to the succession line, who will positions of “rule”.

Certainly he has been a prominent member, but now there is the natural shift as normal life goes on. He has helped Kate and Will through their early years of marriage and child rearing, and now it’s his turn to look after his life. I’m not sure why this comes as such a surprise to everyone.

Plain and simple, Harry and Will hold very different positions, and that seems to get clouded as they’re brothers.

Agreed. These points are getting lost in all the hatred zinging through this thread. Harry's job is done - it's now up to William and Kate to run the show. They must be the focus as they have two future monarchs in their household and it seems like they are done having children.

Further, Charles said that its a priority to slim down the Crown's dependents. If you want to slim down, you need to give people an off-ramp to establish independent lives and careers. Once you're past the age of 40, the opportunities are largely gone.

The path Harry is forging right now is going to affect William's family. He has two younger kids who will need an off-ramp to independent lives, along with his grandkids. William has an interest in Harry/Meghan being treated fairly and maintaining a positive working relationship with the Buckingham Palace.

I think it's fine for them to forge some sort of independent life as their royal relevancy grows less, well, relevant. The real controversy is not that, but the way it's playing out and being handled. Everything from the claims of racism, whether it's legitimate or not, to unfair press and too much press attention, to the way Meghan sort of basically just ran away and wouldn't face the royal family after the announcement, seems rather petulant. And people have real legitimate concerns about the Sussex "brand" being used to make a profit. The Duchy Original profits goes to a charitable foundation, not the Prince of Wales' own pockets. But Meghan and Harry want to become financially independent despite already having a net worth people are saying is at $40 million. They're not stepping back quietly but apparently to forge a new life as influencers, but what influence do they have without the royal status? And they want to make lots of money as influencers? The other royals that faded away like those previous generations did so quietly to the country and lived a quiet life. But that's not what's happening here, is it? They still want to be celebs, or at least she does.

I suppose we'll see what happens. I don't think either are malicious or deliberate or cunning but I don't think they've handled it well or really have a good idea of how to forge a future.

I think they've handled it as well as they can given the circumstances. This type of announcement was never going to be popular and would have created the same press storm even if the Queen had made it herself. I think Meghan not coming back is completely fine. I wouldn't expect Kate to be participating in these discussions. It's for the best and likely allows the best chance for the family unit to come together and come to an agreement.

They are going to be celebs no matter what they do. That's just the reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one of the most important points has been stated for other reasons in this thread, and that is that Harry is not in the succession line. His role as “spare” basically ended the moment George was born. It’s not up to he and Meghan to carry the Monarchy, or to gain favour for it... that’s up to the succession line, who will positions of “rule”.

Certainly he has been a prominent member, but now there is the natural shift as normal life goes on. He has helped Kate and Will through their early years of marriage and child rearing, and now it’s his turn to look after his life. I’m not sure why this comes as such a surprise to everyone.

Plain and simple, Harry and Will hold very different positions, and that seems to get clouded as they’re brothers.

Agreed. These points are getting lost in all the hatred zinging through this thread. Harry's job is done - it's now up to William and Kate to run the show. They must be the focus as they have two future monarchs in their household and it seems like they are done having children.

Further, Charles said that its a priority to slim down the Crown's dependents. If you want to slim down, you need to give people an off-ramp to establish independent lives and careers. Once you're past the age of 40, the opportunities are largely gone.

The path Harry is forging right now is going to affect William's family. He has two younger kids who will need an off-ramp to independent lives, along with his grandkids. William has an interest in Harry/Meghan being treated fairly and maintaining a positive working relationship with the Buckingham Palace.

I think it's fine for them to forge some sort of independent life as their royal relevancy grows less, well, relevant. The real controversy is not that, but the way it's playing out and being handled. Everything from the claims of racism, whether it's legitimate or not, to unfair press and too much press attention, to the way Meghan sort of basically just ran away and wouldn't face the royal family after the announcement, seems rather petulant. And people have real legitimate concerns about the Sussex "brand" being used to make a profit. The Duchy Original profits goes to a charitable foundation, not the Prince of Wales' own pockets. But Meghan and Harry want to become financially independent despite already having a net worth people are saying is at $40 million. They're not stepping back quietly but apparently to forge a new life as influencers, but what influence do they have without the royal status? And they want to make lots of money as influencers? The other royals that faded away like those previous generations did so quietly to the country and lived a quiet life. But that's not what's happening here, is it? They still want to be celebs, or at least she does.

I suppose we'll see what happens. I don't think either are malicious or deliberate or cunning but I don't think they've handled it well or really have a good idea of how to forge a future.

I think they've handled it as well as they can given the circumstances. This type of announcement was never going to be popular and would have created the same press storm even if the Queen had made it herself. I think Meghan not coming back is completely fine. I wouldn't expect Kate to be participating in these discussions. It's for the best and likely allows the best chance for the family unit to come together and come to an agreement.

They are going to be celebs no matter what they do. That's just the reality.

A six week vacation, popping back to the UK (leaving baby behind in Canada), making the announcement, then Meghan flying back to Canada the next day without even a goodbye to the Queen doesn't sound like handling it well. That's just the way I see it. Then she was going to dial in to the conference the royals had with Harry, and then she didn't for whatever reason.

I'm sure they felt they had legitimate grievances of some kind but Meghan Markle's behavior was not what I'd have expected from a mature adult in this situation. It did seem like she was doing her best to burn as many bridges with the rest of the royal family. It was almost childish. But I do wish her best of luck in her future endeavors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank God for the good news of Kate’s pregnancy! Nothing like a new baby to cheer people up!

She’s not pregnant you idiot. Louis is one year old.

Sure about that?

[Anonymous]

Don’t worry guys....
I’m sure they have read all 250ish pages of this thread and have decided to try and earn ya’lls respect.
They’ll be renouncing all of their respective unearned fortunes, I mean Meghan’s money is basically from whoring ( have you seen Suits?) and Harry will give up the 40 mil that got tossed his way after he did nothing to earn it.
They will become simple shepards on a homestead in nowheresville Canada. They will eschew any press, except when you guys demand pictures of their only child. They will devote all of their resources to charitable work, but will never speak publicly of it, except when you guys insult them for not promoting those non profits, but will happily take all criticism regarding to any photography involving what they look like, what they are wearing, and how little they actually are helping their respective causes.
They will ditch their titles, and change their names so there is no way they can profit from the BRF. They will have to get extensive cosmetic surgery, because they understand that it is patently unfair that they benefit in any way from the public’s recognition of them.
They are gonna get right on it.

[Anonymous]

Just dropping this off.

https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-cut-off-close-friends-during-meghan-markles-pregnancy-theres-a-lot-of-resentment/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just dropping this off.

https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-cut-off-close-friends-during-meghan-markles-pregnancy-theres-a-lot-of-resentment/

"They felt they had to handle things this way" lol

Poor victims

[Anonymous]

https://www.magzter.com/article/Womens-Interest/Womans-Day-Magazine-NZ/Pitter-patter-at-the-palace-KATE-WILLIAMS-BABY-NEWS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.magzter.com/article/Womens-Interest/Womans-Day-Magazine-NZ/Pitter-patter-at-the-palace-KATE-WILLIAMS-BABY-NEWS

When I was checking out at the pharmacy today, I saw a headline on a tabloid saying TWINS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.magzter.com/article/Womens-Interest/Womans-Day-Magazine-NZ/Pitter-patter-at-the-palace-KATE-WILLIAMS-BABY-NEWS

If the past is any indicator, she would be throwing up and very unwell if she were pregnant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.magzter.com/article/Womens-Interest/Womans-Day-Magazine-NZ/Pitter-patter-at-the-palace-KATE-WILLIAMS-BABY-NEWS

When I was checking out at the pharmacy today, I saw a headline on a tabloid saying TWINS.

That would be adorable!

[Anonymous]

I don't know why they couldn't just back way and be quiet about it. Why does the world need to know they need a break from their royal duties? And why make it so finite? Just take your damn break and then come back when you're ready. They just had a baby. It's not a good time to be making major decisions about how you want to live. I'm sure the queen would have been fine with, "We need some time off."