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Getting elbowed accidentally and the ensuing injury is completely different from being punched in the face multiple times so hard that she thought he had broken her nose (according to her testimony). |
The Sun was required to prove that each of the statements was true on the balance of probability, which is essentially the same as the "greater weight of the evidence" standard that applied to whether the statements were false in this case. |
I thought the uk case was specifically determining whether the sun had reasonable grounds to believe that their source (heard) was telling the truth, which the magistrate ruled that they did. It was not a ruling on whether JD was a wife beater; it was a ruling on whether the sun has reasonable grounds to believe JD was a wife beater. So I don’t actually think the magistrate’s ruling was unreasonable on face value. |
Ah, so I had the wrong kind of injury because my broken nose was the result of an elbow. How about you give us a medical explanation of how a broken nose from an elbow (one severe enough to at it requires surgery to fix ) is different from a broken nose from a punch, such that one would cause bruising but the other could not cause bruising. I’ll wait. |
I'm a PP who experienced physical (and other abuse growing up). IME and that of other victims in my family, the bruising from blows to the face may not appear right away but the swelling sure did. I had surgery in my early 40s to repair the damage. It wasn't anywhere near as bad as the blows I took in my youth and I still had a lot of swelling. The physical abuse Amber described just isn't believable. |
PP just made up so much BS. On top of that the U.K. box office is a smidgen of proceeds. Look at Top Gun - a $20 million opening is the best weekend possible. U.S. opening weekend is $160 million. |
F=m*a |
No, the Sun had to prove that the statements themselves were substantially true, not just that they reasonably believed them to be true. That's part of why UK defamation law is so plaintiff-friendly in the media context. It's not enough that a publication believes their source to be credible, they are held to the standard of actual substantial truth. |
And? That doesn't prove anything on its own. Not to mention you're leaving out a significant part of the physics, which is surface area/pressure. Banging a hammer into a piece of wood may barely dent it, but the same force applied to a nail will pierce it. |
A big clue into defamation is when two people are engaged in ugly domestic behavior and one publicly accuses the other, the implication being that they themselves hadn't engaged in that kind of behavior (or worse) by the very fact of making the accusation (because who does that?), it's plain to see there is deception going on and you have to ask what the motive is. The facts, including courtroom behavior, supported the deception. |
I wrote a ridiculous answer to a ridiculous question. If you can't imagine an impact having a greater or lesser effect than being elbowed, take a creative writing class. |
Actually the jury found that she was telling the truth in the count where they ruled against Depp. “ Heard, 36, also filed a countersuit against Depp, 58, seeking $100 million in damages and saying his legal team falsely accused her of fabricating claims against Depp. The jury awarded Heard $2 million in damages in that countersuit.” So she didn’t lie but defamed him by speaking out. Not sure how anyone supporting this verdict can call themselves a feminist. |
DP. In other words, you are full of it and have no idea how to distinguish between an elbow and a fist, particularly without more information about the incidents than we have about either. |
That’s not what they found. They found that the cops weren’t called twice and Heard and her cronies didn’t “rough up the place” as Walkman described in the tabloid. They did find that Waldman’s characterization of her story as a “hoax” was not defamation. |