Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 4

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Anonymous wrote:I'm slowly beginning to think those 'polls' are BS. No wonder the Cambridges are itching to tour the U.S.

Hahaha William and Kate are boring. Let them keep their precious throne.

I’m convinced that the majority of people who hate Meghan/love Will&Kate are 50+ year old white conservatives on either side of the pond. Brexiteers/Trumpers who are projecting their own anxieties onto Meghan.

+1. The thought process/argument style is the same. Impervious to facts, can't assimilate new information, can't recognize the difference between what they know to be true and what they are assuming, repetitive talking points, same responses regardless of what the person they responded to said, and zero nuance.

Maya Angelou has a message for you to consider:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
😊

I doubt you appreciate the irony of what you just wrote.

You have no idea who I am or my ability to appreciate irony. I do know that what you wrote is comprised of very condescending, judgmental and harsh statements.

True. I don't usually do that, but I've had it with both the posters who spew insane vitriol at MM in this thread and the batsh*t crazy MAGA crowd who seem quite similar. If you are not part of those two groups, then you have my apology. My comment was directed to the posters who call Meghan "vicious" or insist she said she wanted privacy but have never once, in these thousands of pages, actually shown where she said that.

I normally hold in those thoughts because I know they're unproductive, but the irony of being able to dish out so much bile and and then quote Maya Angelou about other people's feelings was just too much.

And here's a thought-- Why don't the people who are critical of Meghan ever call out the nastiness of their side? I didn't see anyone who claims to have a thoughtful reason for their skepticism actually call out the people who call her vicious. Why is that?

I call out when people make fun of her body or have insane conspiracy theories about her baby. I think it’s not really vitriol I see so much as a true questioning of her motives and actions. I don’t understand plagiarizing speeches, lying in court, clearing out a sold out Wimbledon box so I wouldn’t have to sit next to the commoners, or going on Oprah and lying about why my kid wasn’t made a prince. I don’t understand the rabid fans for whom she seems to walk on water. I get that she’s mixed race and it’s great to see someone of color achieve such a high position of power and influence but she specifically doesn’t seem worthy of that unwavering fan club.

Sources?

Oh FFS. Look them up yourself. She plagiarized Eleanor Roosevelt in her speech to the UN. She herself just admitted she lied in court - oops I had a memory lapse! The Wimbledon thing and Oprah interview are all public domain. None of this is in question. It all happened.

Lol ok

DP. The prior poster is correct. We’ve discussed all of this stuff. It’s pretty disingenuous for you to sneer at PP.

It’s disingenuous for you to continually berate a woman you claim to not care about. Get off her threads and move on with your life. It’s easy to ignore people if you stop obsessing over them.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm slowly beginning to think those 'polls' are BS. No wonder the Cambridges are itching to tour the U.S.

Hahaha William and Kate are boring. Let them keep their precious throne.

I’m convinced that the majority of people who hate Meghan/love Will&Kate are 50+ year old white conservatives on either side of the pond. Brexiteers/Trumpers who are projecting their own anxieties onto Meghan.

+1. The thought process/argument style is the same. Impervious to facts, can't assimilate new information, can't recognize the difference between what they know to be true and what they are assuming, repetitive talking points, same responses regardless of what the person they responded to said, and zero nuance.

Maya Angelou has a message for you to consider:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
😊

I doubt you appreciate the irony of what you just wrote.

You have no idea who I am or my ability to appreciate irony. I do know that what you wrote is comprised of very condescending, judgmental and harsh statements.

True. I don't usually do that, but I've had it with both the posters who spew insane vitriol at MM in this thread and the batsh*t crazy MAGA crowd who seem quite similar. If you are not part of those two groups, then you have my apology. My comment was directed to the posters who call Meghan "vicious" or insist she said she wanted privacy but have never once, in these thousands of pages, actually shown where she said that.

I normally hold in those thoughts because I know they're unproductive, but the irony of being able to dish out so much bile and and then quote Maya Angelou about other people's feelings was just too much.

And here's a thought-- Why don't the people who are critical of Meghan ever call out the nastiness of their side? I didn't see anyone who claims to have a thoughtful reason for their skepticism actually call out the people who call her vicious. Why is that?

I call out when people make fun of her body or have insane conspiracy theories about her baby. I think it’s not really vitriol I see so much as a true questioning of her motives and actions. I don’t understand plagiarizing speeches, lying in court, clearing out a sold out Wimbledon box so I wouldn’t have to sit next to the commoners, or going on Oprah and lying about why my kid wasn’t made a prince. I don’t understand the rabid fans for whom she seems to walk on water. I get that she’s mixed race and it’s great to see someone of color achieve such a high position of power and influence but she specifically doesn’t seem worthy of that unwavering fan club.

Sources?

Oh FFS. Look them up yourself. She plagiarized Eleanor Roosevelt in her speech to the UN. She herself just admitted she lied in court - oops I had a memory lapse! The Wimbledon thing and Oprah interview are all public domain. None of this is in question. It all happened.

Lol ok

DP. The prior poster is correct. We’ve discussed all of this stuff. It’s pretty disingenuous for you to sneer at PP.

It’s disingenuous for you to continually berate a woman you claim to not care about. Get off her threads and move on with your life. It’s easy to ignore people if you stop obsessing over them.

You sound like a bully. Instead of acknowledging that someone answered your question your response is that anyone who mentions the not so nice facts about MM is “berating” her and needs to get off this thread. Perhaps you should resurrect the MM fans only thread so you can have a safe space for your adulation?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm slowly beginning to think those 'polls' are BS. No wonder the Cambridges are itching to tour the U.S.

Hahaha William and Kate are boring. Let them keep their precious throne.

I’m convinced that the majority of people who hate Meghan/love Will&Kate are 50+ year old white conservatives on either side of the pond. Brexiteers/Trumpers who are projecting their own anxieties onto Meghan.

+1. The thought process/argument style is the same. Impervious to facts, can't assimilate new information, can't recognize the difference between what they know to be true and what they are assuming, repetitive talking points, same responses regardless of what the person they responded to said, and zero nuance.

Maya Angelou has a message for you to consider:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
😊

I doubt you appreciate the irony of what you just wrote.

You have no idea who I am or my ability to appreciate irony. I do know that what you wrote is comprised of very condescending, judgmental and harsh statements.

True. I don't usually do that, but I've had it with both the posters who spew insane vitriol at MM in this thread and the batsh*t crazy MAGA crowd who seem quite similar. If you are not part of those two groups, then you have my apology. My comment was directed to the posters who call Meghan "vicious" or insist she said she wanted privacy but have never once, in these thousands of pages, actually shown where she said that.

I normally hold in those thoughts because I know they're unproductive, but the irony of being able to dish out so much bile and and then quote Maya Angelou about other people's feelings was just too much.

And here's a thought-- Why don't the people who are critical of Meghan ever call out the nastiness of their side? I didn't see anyone who claims to have a thoughtful reason for their skepticism actually call out the people who call her vicious. Why is that?

So many people posting here that it gets confusing, but I'm the poster who posted the Maya Angelou quote. I appreciate your response. No hard feelings here. Just so you'll know I'm older and a retired educator who has worked with kids from all kinds of backgrounds. I'm in no way a MAGA supporter nor a Meghan hater. I think she's beautiful and admire her intelligence and ability to set goals and achieve them. As much as I admire Oprah, I do not approve of that interview that was broadcast to the world. I don't like public airings of family issues and hope that both Meghan and Harry are getting serious therapy to deal with their unresolved childhood and family related issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm slowly beginning to think those 'polls' are BS. No wonder the Cambridges are itching to tour the U.S.

Hahaha William and Kate are boring. Let them keep their precious throne.

I’m convinced that the majority of people who hate Meghan/love Will&Kate are 50+ year old white conservatives on either side of the pond. Brexiteers/Trumpers who are projecting their own anxieties onto Meghan.

+1. The thought process/argument style is the same. Impervious to facts, can't assimilate new information, can't recognize the difference between what they know to be true and what they are assuming, repetitive talking points, same responses regardless of what the person they responded to said, and zero nuance.

Maya Angelou has a message for you to consider:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
😊

I doubt you appreciate the irony of what you just wrote.

You have no idea who I am or my ability to appreciate irony. I do know that what you wrote is comprised of very condescending, judgmental and harsh statements.

True. I don't usually do that, but I've had it with both the posters who spew insane vitriol at MM in this thread and the batsh*t crazy MAGA crowd who seem quite similar. If you are not part of those two groups, then you have my apology. My comment was directed to the posters who call Meghan "vicious" or insist she said she wanted privacy but have never once, in these thousands of pages, actually shown where she said that.

I normally hold in those thoughts because I know they're unproductive, but the irony of being able to dish out so much bile and and then quote Maya Angelou about other people's feelings was just too much.

And here's a thought-- Why don't the people who are critical of Meghan ever call out the nastiness of their side? I didn't see anyone who claims to have a thoughtful reason for their skepticism actually call out the people who call her vicious. Why is that?

I call out when people make fun of her body or have insane conspiracy theories about her baby. I think it’s not really vitriol I see so much as a true questioning of her motives and actions. I don’t understand plagiarizing speeches, lying in court, clearing out a sold out Wimbledon box so I wouldn’t have to sit next to the commoners, or going on Oprah and lying about why my kid wasn’t made a prince. I don’t understand the rabid fans for whom she seems to walk on water. I get that she’s mixed race and it’s great to see someone of color achieve such a high position of power and influence but she specifically doesn’t seem worthy of that unwavering fan club.

Sources?

Oh FFS. Look them up yourself. She plagiarized Eleanor Roosevelt in her speech to the UN. She herself just admitted she lied in court - oops I had a memory lapse! The Wimbledon thing and Oprah interview are all public domain. None of this is in question. It all happened.

Lol ok

DP. The prior poster is correct. We’ve discussed all of this stuff. It’s pretty disingenuous for you to sneer at PP.

It’s disingenuous for you to continually berate a woman you claim to not care about. Get off her threads and move on with your life. It’s easy to ignore people if you stop obsessing over them.

You sound like a bully. Instead of acknowledging that someone answered your question your response is that anyone who mentions the not so nice facts about MM is “berating” her and needs to get off this thread. Perhaps you should resurrect the MM fans only thread so you can have a safe space for your adulation?

Yes ok I’m the bully.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm slowly beginning to think those 'polls' are BS. No wonder the Cambridges are itching to tour the U.S.

Hahaha William and Kate are boring. Let them keep their precious throne.

I’m convinced that the majority of people who hate Meghan/love Will&Kate are 50+ year old white conservatives on either side of the pond. Brexiteers/Trumpers who are projecting their own anxieties onto Meghan.

+1. The thought process/argument style is the same. Impervious to facts, can't assimilate new information, can't recognize the difference between what they know to be true and what they are assuming, repetitive talking points, same responses regardless of what the person they responded to said, and zero nuance.

Maya Angelou has a message for you to consider:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
😊

I doubt you appreciate the irony of what you just wrote.

You have no idea who I am or my ability to appreciate irony. I do know that what you wrote is comprised of very condescending, judgmental and harsh statements.

True. I don't usually do that, but I've had it with both the posters who spew insane vitriol at MM in this thread and the batsh*t crazy MAGA crowd who seem quite similar. If you are not part of those two groups, then you have my apology. My comment was directed to the posters who call Meghan "vicious" or insist she said she wanted privacy but have never once, in these thousands of pages, actually shown where she said that.

I normally hold in those thoughts because I know they're unproductive, but the irony of being able to dish out so much bile and and then quote Maya Angelou about other people's feelings was just too much.

And here's a thought-- Why don't the people who are critical of Meghan ever call out the nastiness of their side? I didn't see anyone who claims to have a thoughtful reason for their skepticism actually call out the people who call her vicious. Why is that?

I call out when people make fun of her body or have insane conspiracy theories about her baby. I think it’s not really vitriol I see so much as a true questioning of her motives and actions. I don’t understand plagiarizing speeches, lying in court, clearing out a sold out Wimbledon box so I wouldn’t have to sit next to the commoners, or going on Oprah and lying about why my kid wasn’t made a prince. I don’t understand the rabid fans for whom she seems to walk on water. I get that she’s mixed race and it’s great to see someone of color achieve such a high position of power and influence but she specifically doesn’t seem worthy of that unwavering fan club.

Sources?

Oh FFS. Look them up yourself. She plagiarized Eleanor Roosevelt in her speech to the UN. She herself just admitted she lied in court - oops I had a memory lapse! The Wimbledon thing and Oprah interview are all public domain. None of this is in question. It all happened.

Lol ok

DP. The prior poster is correct. We’ve discussed all of this stuff. It’s pretty disingenuous for you to sneer at PP.

It’s disingenuous for you to continually berate a woman you claim to not care about. Get off her threads and move on with your life. It’s easy to ignore people if you stop obsessing over them.

You sound like a bully. Instead of acknowledging that someone answered your question your response is that anyone who mentions the not so nice facts about MM is “berating” her and needs to get off this thread. Perhaps you should resurrect the MM fans only thread so you can have a safe space for your adulation?

Yes ok I’m the bully.

You still haven’t answered my question. Why waste your precious time on someone so awful?

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This whole thread is such a vacuous exercise.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm slowly beginning to think those 'polls' are BS. No wonder the Cambridges are itching to tour the U.S.

Hahaha William and Kate are boring. Let them keep their precious throne.

I’m convinced that the majority of people who hate Meghan/love Will&Kate are 50+ year old white conservatives on either side of the pond. Brexiteers/Trumpers who are projecting their own anxieties onto Meghan.

+1. The thought process/argument style is the same. Impervious to facts, can't assimilate new information, can't recognize the difference between what they know to be true and what they are assuming, repetitive talking points, same responses regardless of what the person they responded to said, and zero nuance.

Maya Angelou has a message for you to consider:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
😊

I doubt you appreciate the irony of what you just wrote.

You have no idea who I am or my ability to appreciate irony. I do know that what you wrote is comprised of very condescending, judgmental and harsh statements.

True. I don't usually do that, but I've had it with both the posters who spew insane vitriol at MM in this thread and the batsh*t crazy MAGA crowd who seem quite similar. If you are not part of those two groups, then you have my apology. My comment was directed to the posters who call Meghan "vicious" or insist she said she wanted privacy but have never once, in these thousands of pages, actually shown where she said that.

I normally hold in those thoughts because I know they're unproductive, but the irony of being able to dish out so much bile and and then quote Maya Angelou about other people's feelings was just too much.

And here's a thought-- Why don't the people who are critical of Meghan ever call out the nastiness of their side? I didn't see anyone who claims to have a thoughtful reason for their skepticism actually call out the people who call her vicious. Why is that?

I call out when people make fun of her body or have insane conspiracy theories about her baby. I think it’s not really vitriol I see so much as a true questioning of her motives and actions. I don’t understand plagiarizing speeches, lying in court, clearing out a sold out Wimbledon box so I wouldn’t have to sit next to the commoners, or going on Oprah and lying about why my kid wasn’t made a prince. I don’t understand the rabid fans for whom she seems to walk on water. I get that she’s mixed race and it’s great to see someone of color achieve such a high position of power and influence but she specifically doesn’t seem worthy of that unwavering fan club.

Sources?

Oh FFS. Look them up yourself. She plagiarized Eleanor Roosevelt in her speech to the UN. She herself just admitted she lied in court - oops I had a memory lapse! The Wimbledon thing and Oprah interview are all public domain. None of this is in question. It all happened.

Lol ok

DP. The prior poster is correct. We’ve discussed all of this stuff. It’s pretty disingenuous for you to sneer at PP.

It’s disingenuous for you to continually berate a woman you claim to not care about. Get off her threads and move on with your life. It’s easy to ignore people if you stop obsessing over them.

I’m not “berating” anyone. I’m participating in a conversation with my perceptions about a public figure. How is what you’re doing uh noble I guess and everyone else has to go? Do you think like a little kid in all aspects of life, or just here?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm slowly beginning to think those 'polls' are BS. No wonder the Cambridges are itching to tour the U.S.

Hahaha William and Kate are boring. Let them keep their precious throne.

I’m convinced that the majority of people who hate Meghan/love Will&Kate are 50+ year old white conservatives on either side of the pond. Brexiteers/Trumpers who are projecting their own anxieties onto Meghan.

+1. The thought process/argument style is the same. Impervious to facts, can't assimilate new information, can't recognize the difference between what they know to be true and what they are assuming, repetitive talking points, same responses regardless of what the person they responded to said, and zero nuance.

Maya Angelou has a message for you to consider:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
😊

I doubt you appreciate the irony of what you just wrote.

You have no idea who I am or my ability to appreciate irony. I do know that what you wrote is comprised of very condescending, judgmental and harsh statements.

True. I don't usually do that, but I've had it with both the posters who spew insane vitriol at MM in this thread and the batsh*t crazy MAGA crowd who seem quite similar. If you are not part of those two groups, then you have my apology. My comment was directed to the posters who call Meghan "vicious" or insist she said she wanted privacy but have never once, in these thousands of pages, actually shown where she said that.

I normally hold in those thoughts because I know they're unproductive, but the irony of being able to dish out so much bile and and then quote Maya Angelou about other people's feelings was just too much.

And here's a thought-- Why don't the people who are critical of Meghan ever call out the nastiness of their side? I didn't see anyone who claims to have a thoughtful reason for their skepticism actually call out the people who call her vicious. Why is that?

I call out when people make fun of her body or have insane conspiracy theories about her baby. I think it’s not really vitriol I see so much as a true questioning of her motives and actions. I don’t understand plagiarizing speeches, lying in court, clearing out a sold out Wimbledon box so I wouldn’t have to sit next to the commoners, or going on Oprah and lying about why my kid wasn’t made a prince. I don’t understand the rabid fans for whom she seems to walk on water. I get that she’s mixed race and it’s great to see someone of color achieve such a high position of power and influence but she specifically doesn’t seem worthy of that unwavering fan club.

I don't agree with what you just wrote, but I don't have a problem with it, either. The tone makes a huge difference. As I mull it over, I realize there are two kinds of posts that I find especially disturbing.

One is the kind that is just really nasty, full of name-calling and labels. It disturbs me because it is dehumanizing, and that's never okay. We are at a place in history where that is becoming more acceptable, and it's dangerous. (When I see other threads anywhere on DCUM that dehumanize, I report them, even when they are people whose views I otherwise share.)

The second kind of disturbing posts are those full of projected feelings and thoughts and motivations that go beyond ordinary speculation and character analysis. The posters write really fleshed out scenarios as if they have first hand knowledge. It's not just piecing together a motive based on what is in the public sphere; it's imagined thoughts and conversations they then use to justify their hatred.

My comments up top were harsh-- maybe too harsh-- but I tried to characterize the expression of ideas, not call names or generalize about people's characters beyond what they write here.

If you presumed a particular political view, ethnic background and age to “haters,” then you were obnoxious and presumptuous as all hell. I think M and H are obvious liars. I don’t fit any of those demographics. It gets incredibly old to be told who you are in such a patronizing way. THEY are public figures. This is a public message board. It’s not out of bounds to buy nothing they are selling. To be told you must be a Trump supporting white woman aged 60 is obnoxious, to a point where it’s hard to understand the confusion over that. Message boards often have restrictions on “board on boards” comments, and I don’t think I’ve seen many moving in the reverse (meaning, I don’t think I’ve seen comments speculating on the race, age, or political persuasion of a M and H supporter.)

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Anonymous wrote:I'm slowly beginning to think those 'polls' are BS. No wonder the Cambridges are itching to tour the U.S.

Hahaha William and Kate are boring. Let them keep their precious throne.

I’m convinced that the majority of people who hate Meghan/love Will&Kate are 50+ year old white conservatives on either side of the pond. Brexiteers/Trumpers who are projecting their own anxieties onto Meghan.

+1. The thought process/argument style is the same. Impervious to facts, can't assimilate new information, can't recognize the difference between what they know to be true and what they are assuming, repetitive talking points, same responses regardless of what the person they responded to said, and zero nuance.

Maya Angelou has a message for you to consider:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
😊

I doubt you appreciate the irony of what you just wrote.

You have no idea who I am or my ability to appreciate irony. I do know that what you wrote is comprised of very condescending, judgmental and harsh statements.

True. I don't usually do that, but I've had it with both the posters who spew insane vitriol at MM in this thread and the batsh*t crazy MAGA crowd who seem quite similar. If you are not part of those two groups, then you have my apology. My comment was directed to the posters who call Meghan "vicious" or insist she said she wanted privacy but have never once, in these thousands of pages, actually shown where she said that.

I normally hold in those thoughts because I know they're unproductive, but the irony of being able to dish out so much bile and and then quote Maya Angelou about other people's feelings was just too much.

And here's a thought-- Why don't the people who are critical of Meghan ever call out the nastiness of their side? I didn't see anyone who claims to have a thoughtful reason for their skepticism actually call out the people who call her vicious. Why is that?

I call out when people make fun of her body or have insane conspiracy theories about her baby. I think it’s not really vitriol I see so much as a true questioning of her motives and actions. I don’t understand plagiarizing speeches, lying in court, clearing out a sold out Wimbledon box so I wouldn’t have to sit next to the commoners, or going on Oprah and lying about why my kid wasn’t made a prince. I don’t understand the rabid fans for whom she seems to walk on water. I get that she’s mixed race and it’s great to see someone of color achieve such a high position of power and influence but she specifically doesn’t seem worthy of that unwavering fan club.

Sources?

Oh FFS. Look them up yourself. She plagiarized Eleanor Roosevelt in her speech to the UN. She herself just admitted she lied in court - oops I had a memory lapse! The Wimbledon thing and Oprah interview are all public domain. None of this is in question. It all happened.

Lol ok

DP. The prior poster is correct. We’ve discussed all of this stuff. It’s pretty disingenuous for you to sneer at PP.

It’s disingenuous for you to continually berate a woman you claim to not care about. Get off her threads and move on with your life. It’s easy to ignore people if you stop obsessing over them.

I’m not “berating” anyone. I’m participating in a conversation with my perceptions about a public figure. How is what you’re doing uh noble I guess and everyone else has to go? Do you think like a little kid in all aspects of life, or just here?

Nope not claiming to be noble. Just think wasting your mental energy on someone you detest so much is counter productive. Obviously I can’t control who comments on this thread, but you just seem so disturbed by Meghan. Why keep doing that to yourself? I dislike lots of people but I don’t waste my time ripping them to shreds online. I just ignore and keep moving. Why are you so disturbed by what I’m saying? I’m just making an observation.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is such a vacuous exercise.

Yes it is and I fully recognize I am an active participant in that! But I don’t hate or love Meghan so I just come on here as a neutral observer. The anti Meghan crowd is very angry. I’m still trying to wrap my brain around that.

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Nope not claiming to be noble. Just think wasting your mental energy on someone you detest so much is counter productive. Obviously I can’t control who comments on this thread, but you just seem so disturbed by Meghan. Why keep doing that to yourself? I dislike lots of people but I don’t waste my time ripping them to shreds online. I just ignore and keep moving. Why are you so disturbed by what I’m saying? I’m just making an observation.

Where did I say I detest her? Why do you keep using “you” as if you recognize me or poster 305 when hopefully here on planet Earth, you must understand that you don’t? I’m disturbed by liars and those who take up for them, just as I am in real life. Why are you so convinced that your commentary on other posters is something they just have to absorb? Seems utterly absurd to me. It’s very similar to the one-note argument of people in the Political Discussion thread to scream at every reference to Trump OH MY GOD HE LIVES RENT FREE IN EVERY LIBS MIND HAHAHAHA. It’s the same argument. I’m just making an (accurate) observation.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm slowly beginning to think those 'polls' are BS. No wonder the Cambridges are itching to tour the U.S.

Hahaha William and Kate are boring. Let them keep their precious throne.

I’m convinced that the majority of people who hate Meghan/love Will&Kate are 50+ year old white conservatives on either side of the pond. Brexiteers/Trumpers who are projecting their own anxieties onto Meghan.

+1. The thought process/argument style is the same. Impervious to facts, can't assimilate new information, can't recognize the difference between what they know to be true and what they are assuming, repetitive talking points, same responses regardless of what the person they responded to said, and zero nuance.

Maya Angelou has a message for you to consider:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
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I doubt you appreciate the irony of what you just wrote.

You have no idea who I am or my ability to appreciate irony. I do know that what you wrote is comprised of very condescending, judgmental and harsh statements.

True. I don't usually do that, but I've had it with both the posters who spew insane vitriol at MM in this thread and the batsh*t crazy MAGA crowd who seem quite similar. If you are not part of those two groups, then you have my apology. My comment was directed to the posters who call Meghan "vicious" or insist she said she wanted privacy but have never once, in these thousands of pages, actually shown where she said that.

I normally hold in those thoughts because I know they're unproductive, but the irony of being able to dish out so much bile and and then quote Maya Angelou about other people's feelings was just too much.

And here's a thought-- Why don't the people who are critical of Meghan ever call out the nastiness of their side? I didn't see anyone who claims to have a thoughtful reason for their skepticism actually call out the people who call her vicious. Why is that?

I call out when people make fun of her body or have insane conspiracy theories about her baby. I think it’s not really vitriol I see so much as a true questioning of her motives and actions. I don’t understand plagiarizing speeches, lying in court, clearing out a sold out Wimbledon box so I wouldn’t have to sit next to the commoners, or going on Oprah and lying about why my kid wasn’t made a prince. I don’t understand the rabid fans for whom she seems to walk on water. I get that she’s mixed race and it’s great to see someone of color achieve such a high position of power and influence but she specifically doesn’t seem worthy of that unwavering fan club.

I don't agree with what you just wrote, but I don't have a problem with it, either. The tone makes a huge difference. As I mull it over, I realize there are two kinds of posts that I find especially disturbing.

One is the kind that is just really nasty, full of name-calling and labels. It disturbs me because it is dehumanizing, and that's never okay. We are at a place in history where that is becoming more acceptable, and it's dangerous. (When I see other threads anywhere on DCUM that dehumanize, I report them, even when they are people whose views I otherwise share.)

The second kind of disturbing posts are those full of projected feelings and thoughts and motivations that go beyond ordinary speculation and character analysis. The posters write really fleshed out scenarios as if they have first hand knowledge. It's not just piecing together a motive based on what is in the public sphere; it's imagined thoughts and conversations they then use to justify their hatred.

My comments up top were harsh-- maybe too harsh-- but I tried to characterize the expression of ideas, not call names or generalize about people's characters beyond what they write here.

If you presumed a particular political view, ethnic background and age to “haters,” then you were obnoxious and presumptuous as all hell. I think M and H are obvious liars. I don’t fit any of those demographics. It gets incredibly old to be told who you are in such a patronizing way. THEY are public figures. This is a public message board. It’s not out of bounds to buy nothing they are selling. To be told you must be a Trump supporting white woman aged 60 is obnoxious, to a point where it’s hard to understand the confusion over that. Message boards often have restrictions on “board on boards” comments, and I don’t think I’ve seen many moving in the reverse (meaning, I don’t think I’ve seen comments speculating on the race, age, or political persuasion of a M and H supporter.)

Opinion polls have shown that the popularity/approval rating of Meghan is lowest among older, whiter citizens in Britain. We also know that MAGA and Brexiteers skew older and whiter, as well. We can't assume any individual fits into some pigeon hole, obviously, but it's reasonable draw some conclusions based on this, no? After all, you all are drawing all kinds of conclusions about Meghan, right? (Those are rhetorical questions.)


I stand by my opinion of the clearly unhinged thinking of some Meghan haters. Why would you be offended if you're not one of those, PP? I mean that sincerely. I think it's clear to most of us that there are some thoughtful critics of Meghan, and there are some who are something else.

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Anonymous wrote:

Nope not claiming to be noble. Just think wasting your mental energy on someone you detest so much is counter productive. Obviously I can’t control who comments on this thread, but you just seem so disturbed by Meghan. Why keep doing that to yourself? I dislike lots of people but I don’t waste my time ripping them to shreds online. I just ignore and keep moving. Why are you so disturbed by what I’m saying? I’m just making an observation.

Where did I say I detest her? Why do you keep using “you” as if you recognize me or poster 305 when hopefully here on planet Earth, you must understand that you don’t? I’m disturbed by liars and those who take up for them, just as I am in real life. Why are you so convinced that your commentary on other posters is something they just have to absorb? Seems utterly absurd to me. It’s very similar to the one-note argument of people in the Political Discussion thread to scream at every reference to Trump OH MY GOD HE LIVES RENT FREE IN EVERY LIBS MIND HAHAHAHA. It’s the same argument. I’m just making an (accurate) observation.

Ok you don’t detest her. Fine, I concede. Whatever you say.

And I meant ‘you’ in the collective sense. That’s all. I mean, she does seem to live ‘rent free’ in ‘your’ heads. But whatever you say, I believe ‘you’.

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PP, do you really not understand the distinction between people viewing the same primary source (eg televised interview) and having a disparity of opinion versus being tarred as fitting a particular demographic?

Are you seriously going to pretend that there’s been a concerted gleeful push to tar as “haters” ANY criticism here, launched by old who’re racists against a poor innocent couple? Because that’s what I’ve seen, and it’s pretty tiresome.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, do you really not understand the distinction between people viewing the same primary source (eg televised interview) and having a disparity of opinion versus being tarred as fitting a particular demographic?

Are you seriously going to pretend that there’s been a concerted gleeful push to tar as “haters” ANY criticism here, launched by old who’re racists against a poor innocent couple? Because that’s what I’ve seen, and it’s pretty tiresome.

Which PP? There is a quote button to help with that!