Man asked woman to leash her dog in a public park -- she called the police on him

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So tired of these people. Always with the camera ready. I’d love to see what happens before the camera goes on. Always with a chip on their shoulder. Hope it makes you feel nice and big when you upload these stupid videos. I don’t care if you’re black or white or yellow or purple. These people with the cameras feel small and want to prove they’re important. Love provoking to go viral. Get a life.

"these people"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What people are also ignoring:

1) He thought he was the police and could enforce the law. What he should have done is called the police if it was so important.
2) He was luring dogs with treats (like he always does) and vaguely implied he would "do something she didn't like". He used the word "do", not "give", which implied he was using the treat to lure the dog so he could "do" something else to it. Giving treats to dogs is not a threat.
3) He wasn't wearing a mask, she was.
4) He called her a Karen, so in his heart he is likely as racist as she is.
5) He video-taped only her reaction, not his initial words. There's no telling what he said initially, aside from what he says in his Facebook post. It's against the law to record someone in NY without the second person's permission. She could rightfully sue him, not only for illegal wiretapping/recording, but for libel. He has ruined her life.
6) Luring dogs with treats does not solve the leash problem, so it is highly unlikely that he was threatening to give her dog treats. It is more probably that he wanted her to think that he was going to poison her dog, or take her dog.
7) If this was a white male, the media and court of public opinion would be on her side. A white male would have been seen as "mansplaining" the law to her, and threatening to hurt her dog.

No, people are not ignoring anything, but you are the classic "blaming the victim" person turning facts against the victim to try and justify the abuse.

1) He made a respectful request that she follow the law by leashing her dog. She is the one who refused to leash her dog or take the dog out of the reserved area. Why should he call the police when a polite request might solve the problem? She is the one who turned rabid after being asked to follow the law and leash her dog.
2) You are correct, giving treats to dogs is not a threat. So she completely fabricated a story about him threatening her dog because she was relying on her white privilege to break the laws and did not like that a black man would dare to try and question her right to do as she wanted and flaunt the law.
3) There is no evidence whether or not he was wearing a mask. All we know is that he was wearing a bicycle helmet.
4) He did not call her Karen. His sister did when she posted the video on Twitter.
5) No, it is not against the law to record a person in public. It is only illegal to record a person when the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy. In this case, she was in a public park and the proscription against recording does not apply. This article talks about her possible legal consequences and does not cite his recording her as a legal issue:
https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/when-being-a-karen-turns-criminal-central-park-dog-walker-could-be-prosecuted/
6) So you think it is more likely that he was carrying poison in his pocket "just in case" than that he was carrying treats to lure dogs away from the area reserved for birds. Strange. How many people carry poison in their pocket for a walk in the park, especially to go bird watching? And with his sister? He said that dogs are frequently unleashed in this area that he visits regularly and he carries treats to get people to control their dogs. Much more likely than that he went into the park carrying poison to hunt for unleashed dogs to poison them.
7) No. Maybe in the past, but after the case last year of the Supreme Court nomination and this year's case of the accusation against the current Democratic Presidential candidate, women, especially women who fabricate accusations of assault are being taken to task. If she had pulled the same stunt with a white man, calling the police and accusing the man of attacking her dog and threatening and attacking him, she would have faced social repercussions. Not quite as strong as because she introduced race. But still she would have been publicly shamed. Probably still would have lost her dog, maybe faced mild wrist slapping at work, but the race issue is going to cause her far more severe repercussions.

You need to stop blaming the victim and defending an indefensible racist crime. Hopefully she does get the misdemeanor false police report that she deserves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So tired of these people. Always with the camera ready. I’d love to see what happens before the camera goes on. Always with a chip on their shoulder. Hope it makes you feel nice and big when you upload these stupid videos. I don’t care if you’re black or white or yellow or purple. These people with the cameras feel small and want to prove they’re important. Love provoking to go viral. Get a life.

Do the crime, do the time. Love that it was captured. Everyone should be so camera ready. Even Trump was caught on camera admitting that he sexually assaults women by grabbing their pu$$ies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So tired of these people. Always with the camera ready. I’d love to see what happens before the camera goes on. Always with a chip on their shoulder. Hope it makes you feel nice and big when you upload these stupid videos. I don’t care if you’re black or white or yellow or purple. These people with the cameras feel small and want to prove they’re important. Love provoking to go viral. Get a life.

You seem confused. The only person with a chip on their shoulder and who was clearly wanting to feel important is the woman who thinks she doesn't have to follow the rules, became completely unhinged when asked to follow the rules, approached the man, threatened to call the cops and lie to them about him, and then did so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't miss any part of the story. She threatened him by calling the cops and acting like he was going to rape her. Also note that she was using his skin color as a way to emphasize the importance of the police coming to help her. She also nearly strangled her dog. But what you are missing is that he also bears some blame, was threatening her, illegally videotaped her, then tried to destroy her by posting it on Facebook.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ILLEGALLY VIDEOTAPING HER IN A PUBLIC AREA.

She was in a public place. It's not illegal!!

Exactly. To those claiming that he had no right to videotape her in a public place, have you ever seen TMZ or YouTube? Funny how we forget reality when we're trying to make a case for someone.

Yes, it is legal to videotape someone in a public area without their consent. It happens all the time and I'm sure you've never questioned it before when it's for your entertainment purposes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So tired of these people. Always with the camera ready. I’d love to see what happens before the camera goes on. Always with a chip on their shoulder. Hope it makes you feel nice and big when you upload these stupid videos. I don’t care if you’re black or white or yellow or purple. These people with the cameras feel small and want to prove they’re important. Love provoking to go viral. Get a life.

"these people"

Yes, ‘these people’ and no I’m not white and yes I mentioned ‘these people’ doesn’t mean any color in particular. Yes I’m tired of these people always looking for problems and bringing down people of my color which is noble of your business.

[Anonymous]

*none of your business

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So tired of these people. Always with the camera ready. I’d love to see what happens before the camera goes on. Always with a chip on their shoulder. Hope it makes you feel nice and big when you upload these stupid videos. I don’t care if you’re black or white or yellow or purple. These people with the cameras feel small and want to prove they’re important. Love provoking to go viral. Get a life.

What people are purple

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/26/man-dies-after-being-arrested-by-minneapolis-police-fbi-called-to-investigate/

That was just so hard to watch. No one deserves to die like that. I really hope they indict that cop for murder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tired of these people. Always with the camera ready. I’d love to see what happens before the camera goes on. Always with a chip on their shoulder. Hope it makes you feel nice and big when you upload these stupid videos. I don’t care if you’re black or white or yellow or purple. These people with the cameras feel small and want to prove they’re important. Love provoking to go viral. Get a life.

"these people"

Yes, ‘these people’ and no I’m not white and yes I mentioned ‘these people’ doesn’t mean any color in particular. Yes I’m tired of these people always looking for problems and bringing down people of my color which is noble of your business.

Are you Black?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So tired of these people. Always with the camera ready. I’d love to see what happens before the camera goes on. Always with a chip on their shoulder. Hope it makes you feel nice and big when you upload these stupid videos. I don’t care if you’re black or white or yellow or purple. These people with the cameras feel small and want to prove they’re important. Love provoking to go viral. Get a life.

I'm sure you were just waiting to say that but it doesn't apply to this case. He was asking her to leash her dog to preserve the birdwatching area. He only pulled out his camera when she got aggressive and threatened to call the police. As a black man, this was his only protection against her lies which could've gotten him arrested or worse.

Save your comments for another thread...this isn't the one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't miss any part of the story. She threatened him by calling the cops and acting like he was going to rape her. Also note that she was using his skin color as a way to emphasize the importance of the police coming to help her. She also nearly strangled her dog. But what you are missing is that he also bears some blame, was threatening her, illegally videotaped her, then tried to destroy her by posting it on Facebook.[/quote]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ILLEGALLY VIDEOTAPING HER IN A PUBLIC AREA.

She was in a public place. It's not illegal!!

So a woman making false accusations to get someone arrested and maybe killed should not be held to account? She destroyed her own life. It is you who are missing the point. This woman causally tried to destroy this man’s life because she wanted to have her dog off leash. Just because you are a women does not mean you are above the law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what he said to her before he started filming. Pretty sure black women in a secluded area of a park don't like being filmed by white men they've never met before.

Pretty sure they wouldn't respond by calling the police and pretending to be physically threatened.

I'm not so sure they wouldn't call the police, but it might depend on what was said before the video started. He may have said things that weren't recorded.

Or, maybe she is a racist. And, maybe you should stop trying to justify her behavior.

Like it or not, some of us will withhold judgment in a situation where we're being served up a woman to condemn based on an incomplete version of an event.

And of course she was the one to apologize because she had already quickly been doxxed and publicly threatened.

But it is good to know that the next time I see a minority committing any similar infraction, as I have many times in the past, I can instruct them how to behave - as Birdwatcher Kevin did here - secure in the knowledge that no one will ever give a white person grief for instructing minorities on expected laws and social norms in parks and other public venues.

DP. You are being obtuse. A normal person doesn't react the way this woman did when asked to leash her dog or even after the man said he'd lure her dog away with treats. No one made her do what she did. No one made her say those things. You can choose to believe there is something else there to "justify" her actions but the reality - as uncomfortable as it may be for you - is that this woman knowingly called authorities to report an AA man doing something she knew he wasn't doing.

That may be your version of your reality, and you are welcome to it.

We don't know what words or actions took place before the video clip.

We don't know why someone who supposedly just wanted to watch birds and was annoyed by a distracting, unleashed dog would carry around treats to try and attract the same dogs he supposed wants tethered to another person's leash. It's creepy.

And we know that while the clearly upset white woman threatened to call the cops on him, we saw that she took pains to describe him as "African American," as if she was worried calling him "black" would make her sound racist. So it appears there may have been a weird mix of apprehension, fear and vindictiveness going through her head at the same time.

But you weren't there, so your pretending to know "reality" only underscores that you choose to see events so they will confirm your existing beliefs about how and why people behave. The simpler the narrative, the better, even if it's not the whole story.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tired of these people. Always with the camera ready. I’d love to see what happens before the camera goes on. Always with a chip on their shoulder. Hope it makes you feel nice and big when you upload these stupid videos. I don’t care if you’re black or white or yellow or purple. These people with the cameras feel small and want to prove they’re important. Love provoking to go viral. Get a life.

"these people"

Yes, ‘these people’ and no I’m not white and yes I mentioned ‘these people’ doesn’t mean any color in particular. Yes I’m tired of these people always looking for problems and bringing down people of my color which is noble of your business.

We get it. You’re one of those people who don’t see color.
Unfortunately if you’re black in this country, that’s not a privilege you have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So tired of these people. Always with the camera ready. I’d love to see what happens before the camera goes on. Always with a chip on their shoulder. Hope it makes you feel nice and big when you upload these stupid videos. I don’t care if you’re black or white or yellow or purple. These people with the cameras feel small and want to prove they’re important. Love provoking to go viral. Get a life.

"these people"

Yes, ‘these people’ and no I’m not white and yes I mentioned ‘these people’ doesn’t mean any color in particular. Yes I’m tired of these people always looking for problems and bringing down people of my color which is noble of your business.

Are you Black?

Does it matter? I’m just tired of this. I can be any color and tired of this, can’t I? I don’t feel oppressed, I am strong and don’t need anyone to feel sorry for my people because of some lady in a park. I am STRONG.