Mueller does not find Trump campaign knowingly conspired with Russia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Wow.
He won all by himself on a very little budget (in comparison), no one supplied debates' questions to him.
Obviously Americans were SICK of Obama.

Actually, it came out relatively recently that debate questions were given to him on more than one occasion by Fox execs.

That was rumor from unnamed sources.
We have learned that this kind of information is very often not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is a bad person and is bad for America. BUT he did not collude. Can we go home now?
I can’t stand all those headlines saying “but Putin is not off the hook”, “but let’s see the full report” etc. Maybe there can be other reports about how he destroys the environment and jeopardizes the economy, BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

The Barr summary stated Trump was NOT EXONERATED. I know that’s a big word for low-info folks. Barr’s summary sat on the fence so that both sides can be further divided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Wow.
He won all by himself on a very little budget (in comparison), no one supplied debates' questions to him.
Obviously Americans were SICK of Obama.

Of Obama AND of Hillary.

Fair is fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is a bad person and is bad for America. BUT he did not collude. Can we go home now?
I can’t stand all those headlines saying “but Putin is not off the hook”, “but let’s see the full report” etc. Maybe there can be other reports about how he destroys the environment and jeopardizes the economy, BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

The Barr summary stated Trump was NOT EXONERATED. I know that’s a big word for low-info folks. Barr’s summary sat on the fence so that both sides can be further divided.

Hey crazy lady, he and his campaign were EXONERATED of collusion, conspiracy and coordination.

More clear cannot be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is a bad person and is bad for America. BUT he did not collude. Can we go home now?
I can’t stand all those headlines saying “but Putin is not off the hook”, “but let’s see the full report” etc. Maybe there can be other reports about how he destroys the environment and jeopardizes the economy, BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

The Barr summary stated Trump was NOT EXONERATED. I know that’s a big word for low-info folks. Barr’s summary sat on the fence so that both sides can be further divided.

Hey crazy lady, he and his campaign were EXONERATED of collusion, conspiracy and coordination.

More clear cannot be.

No sorry, Barr stayed Trump was not exonerated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is a bad person and is bad for America. BUT he did not collude. Can we go home now?
I can’t stand all those headlines saying “but Putin is not off the hook”, “but let’s see the full report” etc. Maybe there can be other reports about how he destroys the environment and jeopardizes the economy, BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

The Barr summary stated Trump was NOT EXONERATED. I know that’s a big word for low-info folks. Barr’s summary sat on the fence so that both sides can be further divided.

Hey crazy lady, he and his campaign were EXONERATED of collusion, conspiracy and coordination.

More clear cannot be.

You’re quoting Trump not Barr. Big difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is a bad person and is bad for America. BUT he did not collude. Can we go home now?
I can’t stand all those headlines saying “but Putin is not off the hook”, “but let’s see the full report” etc. Maybe there can be other reports about how he destroys the environment and jeopardizes the economy, BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

The Barr summary stated Trump was NOT EXONERATED. I know that’s a big word for low-info folks. Barr’s summary sat on the fence so that both sides can be further divided.

Hey crazy lady, he and his campaign were EXONERATED of collusion, conspiracy and coordination.

More clear cannot be.

No sorry, Barr stayed Trump was not exonerated.

This was ONLY in regard to obstruction because the SC did not make a decision on that. He was exonerated on collusion, conspiracy and coordination as pp said.
Please... read the report. Do not take what the pundits on CNN or MSNBC tell you. They will mislead you every time.

"the Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."

On Obstruction:
"After making a “thorough factual investigation” into these matters, the Special Counsel considered whether to evaluate the conduct under Department standards governing prosecution and declination decisions but ultimately determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment. The Special Counsel therefore did not draw a conclusion - one way or the other - as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as “difficult issues” of law and fact concerning whether the President’s actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

https://www.apnews.com/07eb3adcff3645db8dd1ff2999ca37ee

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is a bad person and is bad for America. BUT he did not collude. Can we go home now?
I can’t stand all those headlines saying “but Putin is not off the hook”, “but let’s see the full report” etc. Maybe there can be other reports about how he destroys the environment and jeopardizes the economy, BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

The Barr summary stated Trump was NOT EXONERATED. I know that’s a big word for low-info folks. Barr’s summary sat on the fence so that both sides can be further divided.

Hey crazy lady, he and his campaign were EXONERATED of collusion, conspiracy and coordination.

More clear cannot be.

You’re quoting Trump not Barr. Big difference.

You're crazy.

I'm quoting Barr and NYT reporting on Barr memo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is a bad person and is bad for America. BUT he did not collude. Can we go home now?
I can’t stand all those headlines saying “but Putin is not off the hook”, “but let’s see the full report” etc. Maybe there can be other reports about how he destroys the environment and jeopardizes the economy, BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

The Barr summary stated Trump was NOT EXONERATED. I know that’s a big word for low-info folks. Barr’s summary sat on the fence so that both sides can be further divided.

Hey crazy lady, he and his campaign were EXONERATED of collusion, conspiracy and coordination.

More clear cannot be.

No sorry, Barr stayed Trump was not exonerated.

This was ONLY in regard to obstruction because the SC did not make a decision on that. He was exonerated on collusion, conspiracy and coordination as pp said.
Please... read the report. Do not take what the pundits on CNN or MSNBC tell you. They will mislead you every time.

"the Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."

On Obstruction:
"After making a “thorough factual investigation” into these matters, the Special Counsel considered whether to evaluate the conduct under Department standards governing prosecution and declination decisions but ultimately determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment. The Special Counsel therefore did not draw a conclusion - one way or the other - as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as “difficult issues” of law and fact concerning whether the President’s actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

https://www.apnews.com/07eb3adcff3645db8dd1ff2999ca37ee

+1.

It is interesting that mention of "multiple offers..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the American judicial system, the investigators investigate and the prosecutors assess and recommend. It is not up to the prosecutors to "establish" or "determine." That is up to a jury or in the case of President, the Congress.

If the Trump Administration is so clear of exoneration, then there should be no issue with releasing the full report, unredacted (except for release of intel or other sensitive issues). Let's see all of Barr's use of phrases in full context.

The rest of this is just spin an noise.

+1 - Thank you. It is up to Congress (the House) to fully establish and determine the obstruction piece. Barr/Rosenstein/Mueller purposely left this door open. Trump and the campaign did not conspire they concluded, true, but they certainly welcomed the help of Russian operatives.

The question on the collusion piece is, "Do you as an American citizen want this type of person as your President? The kind of man who along with his aides openly welcomed the help of a foreign enemy win the election?"

Think about that as you vote again in 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

To the winner goes the spoils

Let’s be clear. This is OVER. The AG has reported as much as he legally can on the Mueller investigation, and the DAG backed him up.

To Adam Schitt and the other Democrat partisans: you get NOTHING. The Mueller investigation is CONFIDENTIAL by LAW. It doesn’t matter what you want to see. You’re not the Deciders.

This is such a huge victory for the President. He should double down and go full bore and lock down the Imperial Presidency. Jam the Citizenship question through. Go after Islamic and Hispanic terrorism. Clean out DOJ, DHS, the CIA and especially FBI of Democrat Fifth Columnists. Seize any opportunity to bring up Hillary, AOC, Pelosi, and anyone else up on charges. Make it very clear what happens when you cross this President.

Ah yes, the unhinged fantasies of the authoritarians.

Well, at least from the Mueller report, we see that it's the liberals who has been indulging in unhinged fantasies for the past 2 years.

All we have seen is Barr's interpretation of elements of the Mueller report. We have seen nothing from the Mueller report but partially excerpted phrases. Remember the Nunes memo that was cast one way, but once released, showed in context, something completely different?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is a bad person and is bad for America. BUT he did not collude. Can we go home now?
I can’t stand all those headlines saying “but Putin is not off the hook”, “but let’s see the full report” etc. Maybe there can be other reports about how he destroys the environment and jeopardizes the economy, BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

The Barr summary stated Trump was NOT EXONERATED. I know that’s a big word for low-info folks. Barr’s summary sat on the fence so that both sides can be further divided.

Hey crazy lady, he and his campaign were EXONERATED of collusion, conspiracy and coordination.

More clear cannot be.

So it was coincidence that on the day of the Trump Tower meeting, Trump announced a major speech on Hillary's foibles? It was mere coincidence that within 1/2 hour of the Access Hollywood tape coming out, Russian bots were pushing Wikileaks info on Hillary as a pedophile and Podesta's email? So it is a coincidence that within weeks of Manafort passing on sensative polling information, Russian hackers were caught on videotape pushing fake information to social media outlets?

It wasn't Mueller's job to exonerate anyone. It was Mueller's job to find facts. Those facts need to be shared with the Congress. What Barr has to say about them is meaningless to everyone but people like you who don't understand the role of an investigator as opposed to a judge and jury.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the American judicial system, the investigators investigate and the prosecutors assess and recommend. It is not up to the prosecutors to "establish" or "determine." That is up to a jury or in the case of President, the Congress.

If the Trump Administration is so clear of exoneration, then there should be no issue with releasing the full report, unredacted (except for release of intel or other sensitive issues). Let's see all of Barr's use of phrases in full context.

The rest of this is just spin an noise.

+1 - Thank you. It is up to Congress (the House) to fully establish and determine the obstruction piece. Barr/Rosenstein/Mueller purposely left this door open. Trump and the campaign did not conspire they concluded, true, but they certainly welcomed the help of Russian operatives.

The question on the collusion piece is, "Do you as an American citizen want this type of person as your President? The kind of man who along with his aides openly welcomed the help of a foreign enemy win the election?"

Think about that as you vote again in 2020.

Hahahaha.

The memo says explicitly the Trump campaign rejected multiple offers of assistance by Russian-related operatives.

Learn how to read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is a bad person and is bad for America. BUT he did not collude. Can we go home now?
I can’t stand all those headlines saying “but Putin is not off the hook”, “but let’s see the full report” etc. Maybe there can be other reports about how he destroys the environment and jeopardizes the economy, BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY!

The Barr summary stated Trump was NOT EXONERATED. I know that’s a big word for low-info folks. Barr’s summary sat on the fence so that both sides can be further divided.

Hey crazy lady, he and his campaign were EXONERATED of collusion, conspiracy and coordination.

More clear cannot be.

No sorry, Barr stayed Trump was not exonerated.

This was ONLY in regard to obstruction because the SC did not make a decision on that. He was exonerated on collusion, conspiracy and coordination as pp said.
Please... read the report. Do not take what the pundits on CNN or MSNBC tell you. They will mislead you every time.

"the Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."

On Obstruction:
"After making a “thorough factual investigation” into these matters, the Special Counsel considered whether to evaluate the conduct under Department standards governing prosecution and declination decisions but ultimately determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment. The Special Counsel therefore did not draw a conclusion - one way or the other - as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as “difficult issues” of law and fact concerning whether the President’s actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

https://www.apnews.com/07eb3adcff3645db8dd1ff2999ca37ee

I don't know why you think this helps Trump. It is up to a Jury or the Congress to determine if the President committed a crime, not Mueller and certainly not Barr.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the American judicial system, the investigators investigate and the prosecutors assess and recommend. It is not up to the prosecutors to "establish" or "determine." That is up to a jury or in the case of President, the Congress.

If the Trump Administration is so clear of exoneration, then there should be no issue with releasing the full report, unredacted (except for release of intel or other sensitive issues). Let's see all of Barr's use of phrases in full context.

The rest of this is just spin an noise.

+1 - Thank you. It is up to Congress (the House) to fully establish and determine the obstruction piece. Barr/Rosenstein/Mueller purposely left this door open. Trump and the campaign did not conspire they concluded, true, but they certainly welcomed the help of Russian operatives.

The question on the collusion piece is, "Do you as an American citizen want this type of person as your President? The kind of man who along with his aides openly welcomed the help of a foreign enemy win the election?"

Think about that as you vote again in 2020.

Neither the Trump campaign nor Trump ever reported actions of the Russian to the US authorities. Never. In fact, Trump railed against the US Intel repeatedly. Why?