Woman killed while jogging near Logan Circle

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

Wild Bill Hikkock would not have been able to draw a gun fast enough to stop someone from basically shiving him without warning while he was jogging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

You really think someone stabs you, and you're going to have the awareness to pull out your pepper spray fast enough from wherever it was, and correctly aim--and press it-- directly at a dude? Instead of maybe clutching your wounds? Sorry, that's not going to happen.

The only way for this to have been prevented (and similar attacks), is for men to just not take out their sh!t on random women and people.

Great. Let’s just tell the mentally insane drug addicts not to “take their sh!t out” on people. Maybe a Twitter hashtag will help build awareness.

[Anonymous]

He had been "touched" by the system many times. The system failed and we need to demand our politicians remedy the threat. I almost think we are looking at it backwards to propose "solutions" for them. Isn't their job, as paid and elected officials, to come up with solutions?? Who is familiar with how to start a change.org type petition to address all that clearly and preventably went wrong here, and protect the citizenry of DC?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-arrest-suspect-in-fatal-stabbing-of-logan-circle-jogger/2018/09/20/638d527a-bccd-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.97121b6faa46

"Police said the petite marathon runner was stabbed six times in the head and neck, and once in the back....Authorities said Crawford tested positive for cocaine at the time of his arrest. Although authorities said Crawford has no recent arrests related to violence, court records obtained by The Washington Post show that in 2012 he was charged as a juvenile with felony assault. The then-16-year-old was found guilty of simple assault and ordered to remain under juvenile supervision until he turned 21.
He was freed at one point, but in 2015, when he was 20, court records show he disappeared from a group home for a month.
About that time he was taken to the United Medical Center for a psychiatric evaluation. Court documents show a doctor noted that Crawford was addicted to drugs and exhibited “seriously self-destructive behavior creating an imminent danger.” District officials tried to have Crawford involuntarily committed for a year, writing that he was “likely to injure self or others."In November 2015, Crawford told hospital staff, “I’m God, sometimes I feel depressed,” according to a court document quoting a psychiatrist. The doctor said Crawford had used synthetic hallucinogens, had refused to take medication and was “quick to become paranoid that others are after him or trying to trick him. He also quickly becomes agitated and aggressive.”
But a month later, in December 2015, the D.C. Department of Behavioral Health, through an attorney with the Office of the Attorney General, dismissed the petition to hold Crawford. The government offered no explanation in court documents, and officials at both agencies declined to comment, citing privacy laws surrounding juveniles and health issues.
D.C. Police Chief Peter Newsham said there was no indication that Martinez had a confrontation with Crawford. A witness described crossing a street “to try and avoid” Crawford moments before the attack.Afterward, several people gave police detailed descriptions of the attacker and a police officer recognized Crawford as a suspect in a theft case, court papers say. Others told police that Crawford frequented a park on Girard Street."

[Anonymous]

Were there any witnesss to the actual attack?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

Wild Bill Hikkock would not have been able to draw a gun fast enough to stop someone from basically shiving him without warning while he was jogging.

Hiccock was drunk, sitting in a chair playing poker with his back turned to his killer, who shot him in the back from across a room.


That's hardly the same scenario

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

This woman was attacked by someone with violent tendencies, high, and likely an unmedicated, undiagnosed, untreated schizophrenic.

She did not die because she wasn’t carrying pepper spray or a gun. It was truly a random, senseless act.

We have no national health care, no efficient way to get people like the perpetrator into appropriate treatment. Prisons are filled with severely mentally ill people and a severely medically ill people as well as an aging population. Congress cares about winning elections and making money for themselves. No one in power really cares about why these tragedies happen or how to prevent them.

My heart breaks for her family. She did not deserve to die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

This woman was attacked by someone with violent tendencies, high, and likely an unmedicated, undiagnosed, untreated schizophrenic.

She did not die because she wasn’t carrying pepper spray or a gun. It was truly a random, senseless act.

We have no national health care, no efficient way to get people like the perpetrator into appropriate treatment. Prisons are filled with severely mentally ill people and a severely medically ill people as well as an aging population. Congress cares about winning elections and making money for themselves. No one in power really cares about why these tragedies happen or how to prevent them.

My heart breaks for her family. She did not deserve to die.

Agreed. That's why I dont go out of my house unless its absolutely necesssary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

This woman was attacked by someone with violent tendencies, high, and likely an unmedicated, undiagnosed, untreated schizophrenic.

She did not die because she wasn’t carrying pepper spray or a gun. It was truly a random, senseless act.

We have no national health care, no efficient way to get people like the perpetrator into appropriate treatment. Prisons are filled with severely mentally ill people and a severely medically ill people as well as an aging population. Congress cares about winning elections and making money for themselves. No one in power really cares about why these tragedies happen or how to prevent them.

My heart breaks for her family. She did not deserve to die.

Some of what you say is true, until you get grandiose and expressive of helplessness because "the problem's too big". Actually, this guy had repeated encounters with a DC criminal justice system that is notoriously inept at dealing with youth offenders and unwilling to make changes (see previous wash post exposes on our "youth rehabilitation act".). Next, he apparently was receiving psychiatric treatment and advice, and then our own DA office petitioned for his release. So, in my mind, not only does this problem fall at the hands of our very own DC criminal justice system - but it is reformable if our elected officials care to examine what went wrong here and legislate change. Why don't we deal in facts and make improvements?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

This woman was attacked by someone with violent tendencies, high, and likely an unmedicated, undiagnosed, untreated schizophrenic.

She did not die because she wasn’t carrying pepper spray or a gun. It was truly a random, senseless act.

We have no national health care, no efficient way to get people like the perpetrator into appropriate treatment. Prisons are filled with severely mentally ill people and a severely medically ill people as well as an aging population. Congress cares about winning elections and making money for themselves. No one in power really cares about why these tragedies happen or how to prevent them.

My heart breaks for her family. She did not deserve to die.

Some of what you say is true, until you get grandiose and expressive of helplessness because "the problem's too big". Actually, this guy had repeated encounters with a DC criminal justice system that is notoriously inept at dealing with youth offenders and unwilling to make changes (see previous wash post exposes on our "youth rehabilitation act".). Next, he apparently was receiving psychiatric treatment and advice, and then our own DA office petitioned for his release. So, in my mind, not only does this problem fall at the hands of our very own DC criminal justice system - but it is reformable if our elected officials care to examine what went wrong here and legislate change. Why don't we deal in facts and make improvements?

The problem isn’t “too big” but it needs to be addressed on a national level. This problem didn’t start when he was recently released. He’s obviously been dealing with mental health issues since he was a teen.

[Anonymous]

It frustrates me to no end for people to believe there's a quick or eat fix to mental illness. The ability to control your actions or not doesn't make someone less dead. You can throw buckets of money at this problem and it means nothing. You're applying ration and logic to a situation where it has no place.

Ask any family member of a schizophrenic. They're all just waiting for the call that someone is dead, either the family or a victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

Wild Bill Hikkock would not have been able to draw a gun fast enough to stop someone from basically shiving him without warning while he was jogging.

If a gun isn't effective at stopping someone with a knife or any other type of physical attack, then why does every police officer in the country carry a gun?

Why don't they just carry knives instead?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It frustrates me to no end for people to believe there's a quick or eat fix to mental illness. The ability to control your actions or not doesn't make someone less dead. You can throw buckets of money at this problem and it means nothing. You're applying ration and logic to a situation where it has no place.

Ask any family member of a schizophrenic. They're all just waiting for the call that someone is dead, either the family or a victim.

I actually have family members with schizophrenia. One died of lung cancer and one is still alive. They are doing/did well b/c they got treatment and medication. Access to health care and getting a proper diagnosis helps.

We don’t throw buckets of money at the issue of mental health. It would help.

[Anonymous]

How many Tricias?
How many Wendys?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

Wild Bill Hikkock would not have been able to draw a gun fast enough to stop someone from basically shiving him without warning while he was jogging.

If a gun isn't effective at stopping someone with a knife or any other type of physical attack, then why does every police officer in the country carry a gun?

Why don't they just carry knives instead?

Wendy was attacked without warning. She could have had a machine gun locked and loaded and the outcome would have been the same. Even armed cops get blindsided and killed regularly. A gun doesn't make you bullet proof or knife proof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He had been "touched" by the system many times. The system failed and we need to demand our politicians remedy the threat. I almost think we are looking at it backwards to propose "solutions" for them. Isn't their job, as paid and elected officials, to come up with solutions?? Who is familiar with how to start a change.org type petition to address all that clearly and preventably went wrong here, and protect the citizenry of DC?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-arrest-suspect-in-fatal-stabbing-of-logan-circle-jogger/2018/09/20/638d527a-bccd-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.97121b6faa46

"Police said the petite marathon runner was stabbed six times in the head and neck, and once in the back....Authorities said Crawford tested positive for cocaine at the time of his arrest. Although authorities said Crawford has no recent arrests related to violence, court records obtained by The Washington Post show that in 2012 he was charged as a juvenile with felony assault. The then-16-year-old was found guilty of simple assault and ordered to remain under juvenile supervision until he turned 21.
He was freed at one point, but in 2015, when he was 20, court records show he disappeared from a group home for a month.
About that time he was taken to the United Medical Center for a psychiatric evaluation. Court documents show a doctor noted that Crawford was addicted to drugs and exhibited “seriously self-destructive behavior creating an imminent danger.” District officials tried to have Crawford involuntarily committed for a year, writing that he was “likely to injure self or others."In November 2015, Crawford told hospital staff, “I’m God, sometimes I feel depressed,” according to a court document quoting a psychiatrist. The doctor said Crawford had used synthetic hallucinogens, had refused to take medication and was “quick to become paranoid that others are after him or trying to trick him. He also quickly becomes agitated and aggressive.”
But a month later, in December 2015, the D.C. Department of Behavioral Health, through an attorney with the Office of the Attorney General, dismissed the petition to hold Crawford. The government offered no explanation in court documents, and officials at both agencies declined to comment, citing privacy laws surrounding juveniles and health issues.
D.C. Police Chief Peter Newsham said there was no indication that Martinez had a confrontation with Crawford. A witness described crossing a street “to try and avoid” Crawford moments before the attack.Afterward, several people gave police detailed descriptions of the attacker and a police officer recognized Crawford as a suspect in a theft case, court papers say. Others told police that Crawford frequented a park on Girard Street."

Disgusting- he should have never been released.