Gun store opening next door to Franklin Sherman Elementary in Mclean

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Me, three. I was undecided before. But, Foust came out and came out strong. I appreciate his stance even if he might lose some votes. He gained mine. And I may just get a sign to put in my lawn. This is part of a larger issue of people using scare tactics to deflect from what is happening in our country.

And the fact that the pro-gun folks compare guns to fast food and don't understand why it makes no sense to have a gun store next to a school shows how disconnected they are from reality.

+1000.

[Anonymous]

I don't know what he will do. Maybe nothing can be done. He said himself that it is not illegal to have a gun store next to the school. It is poor judgment. It does not take in the community views. Putting a strip club/bar would be legal, too. But do you think a bar owner would ever try to locate next to a school? It's about judgment.

So, maybe he'll get nothing done. But unlike many politicians, he decided to take a stand and say he will try. That's good enough for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm with you folks. I have mixed feelings about John Foust. I think if he'd played a more active role in spurring the redevelopment of McLean, we would have better retail and you wouldn't find a low-brow business like a gun store able to afford rent there.

You are aware that there are palm readers and questionable "massage parlors" in McLean, right? If you seriously think a Demoncratic politician is concerned about redeveloping McLean and making it more exclusive, I have a bridge I'd love to sell you. The dude is old and his kids are long past school age. He has zero skin in the game when it comes to this, beyond getting votes and keeping the McLean cash cow dumping money into Fairfax Co. He would legit turn the gun shop into a day laborer center if he could get away with it, and I'm not even kidding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm with you folks. I have mixed feelings about John Foust. I think if he'd played a more active role in spurring the redevelopment of McLean, we would have better retail and you wouldn't find a low-brow business like a gun store able to afford rent there.

You are aware that there are palm readers and questionable "massage parlors" in McLean, right? If you seriously think a Demoncratic politician is concerned about redeveloping McLean and making it more exclusive, I have a bridge I'd love to sell you. The dude is old and his kids are long past school age. He has zero skin in the game when it comes to this, beyond getting votes and keeping the McLean cash cow dumping money into Fairfax Co. He would legit turn the gun shop into a day laborer center if he could get away with it, and I'm not even kidding.

Actually, you are coming across as the one who is pathetically out of touch. The Democratic politicians and candidates are more interested in making McLean transit- and pedestrian-friendly, and over time that will spur new development and price out crap we don't want or need like Nova Firearms. The Republicans don't do anything other than defend gun owners, spread fear of day laborers, and cling to a 1950s model of the suburbs that is on its way out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm with you folks. I have mixed feelings about John Foust. I think if he'd played a more active role in spurring the redevelopment of McLean, we would have better retail and you wouldn't find a low-brow business like a gun store able to afford rent there.

You are aware that there are palm readers and questionable "massage parlors" in McLean, right? If you seriously think a Demoncratic politician is concerned about redeveloping McLean and making it more exclusive, I have a bridge I'd love to sell you. The dude is old and his kids are long past school age. He has zero skin in the game when it comes to this, beyond getting votes and keeping the McLean cash cow dumping money into Fairfax Co. He would legit turn the gun shop into a day laborer center if he could get away with it, and I'm not even kidding.

Actually, you are coming across as the one who is pathetically out of touch. The Democratic politicians and candidates are more interested in making McLean transit- and pedestrian-friendly, and over time that will spur new development and price out crap we don't want or need like Nova Firearms. The Republicans don't do anything other than defend gun owners, spread fear of day laborers, and cling to a 1950s model of the suburbs that is on its way out.

I'm not the PP who called the gun store "low-brow". If you hold that view of a gun shop, I doubt you want palm readers or massage parlors (of a certain flavor, anyway) in the vicinity, either. I couldn't care less about the location of the gun shop, and I would love to see McLean become more transit and pedestrian friendly, and I'd personally love to see McLean open a homeless shelter or whatever. However, if people think throwing their weight behind Foust is going to accomplish any of this in McLean, they are kidding themselves. P.S. The gun shop is moving because it needed more space; doubtful it will be priced out anytime soon. Contrary to what anyone wants to believe, homeowners in McLean looooove their firearms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:and lets remember our dear Barbara Comstock

another NRA lover.

who is supporting the gun store

who voted to close the government as another spineless politician

I'm curious. Barbara Comstock is our 10th Congressional District Rep. - In Congress, not local McLean. Just where exactly has Barbara Comstock said anything about the local gun shop? Citation please. Now John Foust, our local supervisor ad a Dem. has stupidly taken on this issue even though there is no legal support whatsoever for him. This is why he lost the 10th congressional district to Comstock (and ran a very dirty race) and will lose the Supervisor's seat to Jennifer Chronis. Virginia is an open carry state, folks. People can open carry. People can conceal carry with appropriate training and licensing. Lots of people in McLean open carry or conceal carry and they don't care about the soccer moms who can't explain their position beyond a whiny "but it's wrong" and Foust has really pissed people off so has sacrificed his seat for a issue that is not defensible. People who shoot up schools do not buy their guns at a gun shop in McLean. You do know that you have to get ATF clearance and file your registration to get a gun? Which are used shooting clays or self-protection. The guys shooting up schools, committing the bank crimes in McLean either steal their guns or get them from the underground. They don't go into a respectable McLean business, turn over their license, and buy a gun registered with the ATF. If anything, the school kids are MORE safe having the gun store there than they would without it. I conceal carry and would have saved lives today in Oregon. Unfortunately, the school was a gun-free zone with one officer with no gun,

Foust has not lost any voters. The voters who support the gun store have never been his supporters.

Of course he has. VA is an open carry state. The quiet people in McLean do have guns. He shot himself in his liberal foot on this one. Never, ever take on an issue that does not have a legal foundation. What's he going to do? Bully the gun shop out of McLean? Perfectly legal. He's toast now. He was a fool in the 10th congressional race with all his sexist attacks on Barbara and now he's lost what he had of his constituent base - minus a few shrilly moms who can't explain coherently on the news why the gun shop needs to go.,

The Dranesville District is in Fairfax, unlike the 10th Congressional District, which includes a bunch of right wing lunatics in Loudoun and Manassas. Herndon, Falls Church and McLean voters should ensure Foust's re-election, with most of Chronis's support coming from Great Falls. Which, in case you haven't noticed, is losing people even as the populations of Herndon and McLean grow.

Here's how much clout Foust has: The Dranesville District Democrat facebook page has just 500 members. Only three have checked in lately. I'm still waiting for the liar to tell me where Comstock was involved . . . she hasn't been. Only Foust and a few minions. The rest os us in McLean are pro-gun choice and own guns. You can jump up and down all you like but VA is an open carry state. McLean is in VA. The gun shop is perfectly legal. Once again, Foust opens his mouth and puts his foot in it. And this WILL be remembered.[/quote]

I would be careful with the language here. You may mean Foust's positions will be remembered on Election Day, but you didn't say that. It comes across as a threat against an elected official.

Yes, on election day. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the store wasn't in McLean "forever". It was in a tiny unmarked space hidden on Elm Street and you basically had to make an appointment to go in or put an order online. The vast majority of its customers did not live in McLean. You didn't just drop by on a Saturday in between your MYS soccer game and doing your grocery shopping. Even my pro-gun neighbors did not know of the prior location or ever visited it.

It is important to note that anyone without a criminal background can walk in and buy a gun with no waiting period or proof that they are emotionally stable or know how to operate it. I don't think many of the people against the gun store here are saying that it is illegal, so you can stop the arguments about just because it is legal means it is ok. After all the school shootings, you'd think these tone deaf gun crazies might see the stupidity and inappropriateness of a gun store backing an elementary school.

I would encourage you all to note that the majority of signatories to the petition against the gun store are local to McLean. Most of my friends in McLean are Republican and oppose the store's location. And then please note that the pro gun store petition does not even mention that the store abuts an elementary school and the vast majority of its signers (still lower in number than anti store) are not local to McLean. If you want a gun store next to an elementary school, please petition your local landowners to offer incentives to relocate them there. There, win/win?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the store wasn't in McLean "forever". It was in a tiny unmarked space hidden on Elm Street and you basically had to make an appointment to go in or put an order online. The vast majority of its customers did not live in McLean. You didn't just drop by on a Saturday in between your MYS soccer game and doing your grocery shopping. Even my pro-gun neighbors did not know of the prior location or ever visited it.

It is important to note that anyone without a criminal background can walk in and buy a gun with no waiting period or proof that they are emotionally stable or know how to operate it. I don't think many of the people against the gun store here are saying that it is illegal, so you can stop the arguments about just because it is legal means it is ok. After all the school shootings, you'd think these tone deaf gun crazies might see the stupidity and inappropriateness of a gun store backing an elementary school.

I would encourage you all to note that the majority of signatories to the petition against the gun store are local to McLean. Most of my friends in McLean are Republican and oppose the store's location. And then please note that the pro gun store petition does not even mention that the store abuts an elementary school and the vast majority of its signers (still lower in number than anti store) are not local to McLean. If you want a gun store next to an elementary school, please petition your local landowners to offer incentives to relocate them there. There, win/win?

I meant to add -- it had only been at its prior location for 2 years. Nobody in McLean knew it was there because it wasn't a prominent business. Now it is prominently located and is in the middle of our town next to an elementary school and anyone can walk in a buy a gun. Huge difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and lets remember our dear Barbara Comstock

another NRA lover.

who is supporting the gun store

who voted to close the government as another spineless politician

I'm curious. Barbara Comstock is our 10th Congressional District Rep. - In Congress, not local McLean. Just where exactly has Barbara Comstock said anything about the local gun shop? Citation please. Now John Foust, our local supervisor ad a Dem. has stupidly taken on this issue even though there is no legal support whatsoever for him. This is why he lost the 10th congressional district to Comstock (and ran a very dirty race) and will lose the Supervisor's seat to Jennifer Chronis. Virginia is an open carry state, folks. People can open carry. People can conceal carry with appropriate training and licensing. Lots of people in McLean open carry or conceal carry and they don't care about the soccer moms who can't explain their position beyond a whiny "but it's wrong" and Foust has really pissed people off so has sacrificed his seat for a issue that is not defensible. People who shoot up schools do not buy their guns at a gun shop in McLean. You do know that you have to get ATF clearance and file your registration to get a gun? Which are used shooting clays or self-protection. The guys shooting up schools, committing the bank crimes in McLean either steal their guns or get them from the underground. They don't go into a respectable McLean business, turn over their license, and buy a gun registered with the ATF. If anything, the school kids are MORE safe having the gun store there than they would without it. I conceal carry and would have saved lives today in Oregon. Unfortunately, the school was a gun-free zone with one officer with no gun,

What is wrong with common sense gun control? No one wants to trample on your 2nd Amendment rights. We just want common sense controls so that we can send our kids to school without worrying about some crazy mass murderer. And plenty of them bought their guns legally or took them right out of their own homes where they were bought legally by someone else.

Can we not agree that these mass shootings have reached such a shocking level where we must seriously reflect on what kind of society we want to live in and leave to our children? Do we have the humanity to come together to protect our children? To say enough is enough?

And if reasonable gun control is not the answer, what is? I ask that sincerely, as I think we desperately need to find a way to stop this madness.

The store was previously what...3 blocks away from what I understand? That's not gun control. There is no more or less danger with the shop next door.

Tell me, how many people were even aware that that store was open on Elm Street? Where there any big signs outside the store advertising its presence? Was it located next door to a school so it could generate a lot of free publicity? No. The new location is bigger, more visible, and riskier. It does not belong next to an elementary school.

How does the location make it riskier?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and lets remember our dear Barbara Comstock

another NRA lover.

who is supporting the gun store

who voted to close the government as another spineless politician

I'm curious. Barbara Comstock is our 10th Congressional District Rep. - In Congress, not local McLean. Just where exactly has Barbara Comstock said anything about the local gun shop? Citation please. Now John Foust, our local supervisor ad a Dem. has stupidly taken on this issue even though there is no legal support whatsoever for him. This is why he lost the 10th congressional district to Comstock (and ran a very dirty race) and will lose the Supervisor's seat to Jennifer Chronis. Virginia is an open carry state, folks. People can open carry. People can conceal carry with appropriate training and licensing. Lots of people in McLean open carry or conceal carry and they don't care about the soccer moms who can't explain their position beyond a whiny "but it's wrong" and Foust has really pissed people off so has sacrificed his seat for a issue that is not defensible. People who shoot up schools do not buy their guns at a gun shop in McLean. You do know that you have to get ATF clearance and file your registration to get a gun? Which are used shooting clays or self-protection. The guys shooting up schools, committing the bank crimes in McLean either steal their guns or get them from the underground. They don't go into a respectable McLean business, turn over their license, and buy a gun registered with the ATF. If anything, the school kids are MORE safe having the gun store there than they would without it. I conceal carry and would have saved lives today in Oregon. Unfortunately, the school was a gun-free zone with one officer with no gun,

What is wrong with common sense gun control? No one wants to trample on your 2nd Amendment rights. We just want common sense controls so that we can send our kids to school without worrying about some crazy mass murderer. And plenty of them bought their guns legally or took them right out of their own homes where they were bought legally by someone else.

Can we not agree that these mass shootings have reached such a shocking level where we must seriously reflect on what kind of society we want to live in and leave to our children? Do we have the humanity to come together to protect our children? To say enough is enough?

And if reasonable gun control is not the answer, what is? I ask that sincerely, as I think we desperately need to find a way to stop this madness.

The store was previously what...3 blocks away from what I understand? That's not gun control. There is no more or less danger with the shop next door.

Tell me, how many people were even aware that that store was open on Elm Street? Where there any big signs outside the store advertising its presence? Was it located next door to a school so it could generate a lot of free publicity? No. The new location is bigger, more visible, and riskier. It does not belong next to an elementary school.

How does the location make it riskier?

"Just because." No real reason whatsoever.
But, just in case, let's ask again:
How does the new location make it riskier?
Anyone??

[Anonymous]

Reading this thread is even more disturbing than reading the threads in the private school forum. Move the store. There. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and lets remember our dear Barbara Comstock

another NRA lover.

who is supporting the gun store

who voted to close the government as another spineless politician

I'm curious. Barbara Comstock is our 10th Congressional District Rep. - In Congress, not local McLean. Just where exactly has Barbara Comstock said anything about the local gun shop? Citation please. Now John Foust, our local supervisor ad a Dem. has stupidly taken on this issue even though there is no legal support whatsoever for him. This is why he lost the 10th congressional district to Comstock (and ran a very dirty race) and will lose the Supervisor's seat to Jennifer Chronis. Virginia is an open carry state, folks. People can open carry. People can conceal carry with appropriate training and licensing. Lots of people in McLean open carry or conceal carry and they don't care about the soccer moms who can't explain their position beyond a whiny "but it's wrong" and Foust has really pissed people off so has sacrificed his seat for a issue that is not defensible. People who shoot up schools do not buy their guns at a gun shop in McLean. You do know that you have to get ATF clearance and file your registration to get a gun? Which are used shooting clays or self-protection. The guys shooting up schools, committing the bank crimes in McLean either steal their guns or get them from the underground. They don't go into a respectable McLean business, turn over their license, and buy a gun registered with the ATF. If anything, the school kids are MORE safe having the gun store there than they would without it. I conceal carry and would have saved lives today in Oregon. Unfortunately, the school was a gun-free zone with one officer with no gun,

What is wrong with common sense gun control? No one wants to trample on your 2nd Amendment rights. We just want common sense controls so that we can send our kids to school without worrying about some crazy mass murderer. And plenty of them bought their guns legally or took them right out of their own homes where they were bought legally by someone else.

Can we not agree that these mass shootings have reached such a shocking level where we must seriously reflect on what kind of society we want to live in and leave to our children? Do we have the humanity to come together to protect our children? To say enough is enough?

And if reasonable gun control is not the answer, what is? I ask that sincerely, as I think we desperately need to find a way to stop this madness.

The store was previously what...3 blocks away from what I understand? That's not gun control. There is no more or less danger with the shop next door.

Tell me, how many people were even aware that that store was open on Elm Street? Where there any big signs outside the store advertising its presence? Was it located next door to a school so it could generate a lot of free publicity? No. The new location is bigger, more visible, and riskier. It does not belong next to an elementary school.

How does the location make it riskier?

"Just because." No real reason whatsoever.
But, just in case, let's ask again:
How does the new location make it riskier?
Anyone??

It normalizes guns. It makes creates an environment that projects an idea that guns are and should be part of every day society. That they are valuable to our every day life. It is in your face and makes them seem very available. It influences kids, so when they see a gun, instead of being shocked and telling a parent, they just think it is normal, and maybe something really fun to touch. I hate guns. I don't want my kids to see that store every time they go to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and lets remember our dear Barbara Comstock

another NRA lover.

who is supporting the gun store

who voted to close the government as another spineless politician

I'm curious. Barbara Comstock is our 10th Congressional District Rep. - In Congress, not local McLean. Just where exactly has Barbara Comstock said anything about the local gun shop? Citation please. Now John Foust, our local supervisor ad a Dem. has stupidly taken on this issue even though there is no legal support whatsoever for him. This is why he lost the 10th congressional district to Comstock (and ran a very dirty race) and will lose the Supervisor's seat to Jennifer Chronis. Virginia is an open carry state, folks. People can open carry. People can conceal carry with appropriate training and licensing. Lots of people in McLean open carry or conceal carry and they don't care about the soccer moms who can't explain their position beyond a whiny "but it's wrong" and Foust has really pissed people off so has sacrificed his seat for a issue that is not defensible. People who shoot up schools do not buy their guns at a gun shop in McLean. You do know that you have to get ATF clearance and file your registration to get a gun? Which are used shooting clays or self-protection. The guys shooting up schools, committing the bank crimes in McLean either steal their guns or get them from the underground. They don't go into a respectable McLean business, turn over their license, and buy a gun registered with the ATF. If anything, the school kids are MORE safe having the gun store there than they would without it. I conceal carry and would have saved lives today in Oregon. Unfortunately, the school was a gun-free zone with one officer with no gun,

What is wrong with common sense gun control? No one wants to trample on your 2nd Amendment rights. We just want common sense controls so that we can send our kids to school without worrying about some crazy mass murderer. And plenty of them bought their guns legally or took them right out of their own homes where they were bought legally by someone else.

Can we not agree that these mass shootings have reached such a shocking level where we must seriously reflect on what kind of society we want to live in and leave to our children? Do we have the humanity to come together to protect our children? To say enough is enough?

And if reasonable gun control is not the answer, what is? I ask that sincerely, as I think we desperately need to find a way to stop this madness.

The store was previously what...3 blocks away from what I understand? That's not gun control. There is no more or less danger with the shop next door.

Tell me, how many people were even aware that that store was open on Elm Street? Where there any big signs outside the store advertising its presence? Was it located next door to a school so it could generate a lot of free publicity? No. The new location is bigger, more visible, and riskier. It does not belong next to an elementary school.

How does the location make it riskier?

"Just because." No real reason whatsoever.
But, just in case, let's ask again:
How does the new location make it riskier?
Anyone??

It normalizes guns. It makes creates an environment that projects an idea that guns are and should be part of every day society. That they are valuable to our every day life. It is in your face and makes them seem very available. It influences kids, so when they see a gun, instead of being shocked and telling a parent, they just think it is normal, and maybe something really fun to touch. I hate guns. I don't want my kids to see that store every time they go to school.

How old are your kids, 19:26?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and lets remember our dear Barbara Comstock

another NRA lover.

who is supporting the gun store

who voted to close the government as another spineless politician

I'm curious. Barbara Comstock is our 10th Congressional District Rep. - In Congress, not local McLean. Just where exactly has Barbara Comstock said anything about the local gun shop? Citation please. Now John Foust, our local supervisor ad a Dem. has stupidly taken on this issue even though there is no legal support whatsoever for him. This is why he lost the 10th congressional district to Comstock (and ran a very dirty race) and will lose the Supervisor's seat to Jennifer Chronis. Virginia is an open carry state, folks. People can open carry. People can conceal carry with appropriate training and licensing. Lots of people in McLean open carry or conceal carry and they don't care about the soccer moms who can't explain their position beyond a whiny "but it's wrong" and Foust has really pissed people off so has sacrificed his seat for a issue that is not defensible. People who shoot up schools do not buy their guns at a gun shop in McLean. You do know that you have to get ATF clearance and file your registration to get a gun? Which are used shooting clays or self-protection. The guys shooting up schools, committing the bank crimes in McLean either steal their guns or get them from the underground. They don't go into a respectable McLean business, turn over their license, and buy a gun registered with the ATF. If anything, the school kids are MORE safe having the gun store there than they would without it. I conceal carry and would have saved lives today in Oregon. Unfortunately, the school was a gun-free zone with one officer with no gun,

What is wrong with common sense gun control? No one wants to trample on your 2nd Amendment rights. We just want common sense controls so that we can send our kids to school without worrying about some crazy mass murderer. And plenty of them bought their guns legally or took them right out of their own homes where they were bought legally by someone else.

Can we not agree that these mass shootings have reached such a shocking level where we must seriously reflect on what kind of society we want to live in and leave to our children? Do we have the humanity to come together to protect our children? To say enough is enough?

And if reasonable gun control is not the answer, what is? I ask that sincerely, as I think we desperately need to find a way to stop this madness.

Name ONE law that would have prevented the Oregon tragedy. There is no such thing as common sense gun control.

ban semi-automatic hand guns.

six weapons were found at the college, where the shooter died Thursday after a gunbattle with police, she said at a news conference. Those weapons included five pistols and one rifle.

The problem is we don't treat gun obsession as the illness it is. This kind of love for firearms is an addiction as bad as any drug and it needs to be treated as such.
If we need to register and track our vehicles then guns should be registered and insured as well.

[Anonymous]

We're talking about an elementary school, so presumably kids of that age, right? Or have you lost track of what we're talking about to begin with?