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First we were told the kids need activities like
Sports and school clubs to make them well-rounded. Then we were told the kids need to start a non-profit and make a difference. Then we were told they need a “spike” or a “hook”. Then we were told they need a “narrative”. Now the latest is “accommodations”. So we need our kids to be hooked, athletic, accommodated difference-makers with an “it” factor to have any shot at becoming self-sufficient, productive adults. No wonder there’s a mental health crisis amongst our youth. Things not to take away from the kids who genuinely need accommodations or the kids who are involved in positive ways. It’s just the level of packaging, facilitating and engineering that has become a part of college admissions for so many kids who don’t really need it. |
I have two highly intelligent children with learning differences (dyslexia and ADHD). Our educational system is NOT set up to support these kids. Everyone obsesses about the problem symptoms (and superficial remedies) rather than the problem itself, which is that there are medical neurological differences in how these kids experience the world and learn. Despite the fact that modern medicine and testing can identify these neurological issues readily, the process is expensive and time-consuming (neuropsych panel) and we have a nationwide shortage of mental health professionals qualified to administer the testing, so the truth is that we have absolutely NO idea how many kids in our country are affected, because we cannot reliably measure and assess them. I am confident that there are many kids who slip through the cracks because our educational system fails to meet them where they are and parents are not aware and/or cannot afford proper diagnosis and treatment. And I think we all can agree that our country's educational system is not in good shape overall generally. For these kids, it is much worse. My kids are both highly successful in school and in life BECAUSE I have invested (and continue to invest) a lot of my money and my energy helping them develop educational, executive function and life skills for years. I have sacrificed a lot and regret nothing. While I recognize that I am fortunate that I can do so, I am so angry that our health insurance and our educational system refuses to pay for diagnostic tests that are so important for their lives. I am so frustrated that the vast majority of teachers have minimal training on learning differences. But, perhaps the worst part is the nasty, ignorant judgment on display in this forum and presumably in that article (can't read it with paywall) that has decided that rich families are "buying" accommodations. UGH. Yes, there are examples of people who abuse the system, and that also makes me angry. But frankly, more than anything, I want the national dialogue to change from blaming and demonizing and a focus on actually solving problems constructively. We need better testing and diagnoses in elementary school and we need training to support learning differences in schools. If we actually focus on solving the problems, it makes it more difficult for parents of neurotypical kids to game the process. But it's easier to scream and point, unfortunately. |
Yeah, I had to work through high school, undergrad, and law school. Guess I'm a loser. |
The problem is with the parents and students who think only the extremely selective colleges are somehow bring wealth and fulfillment in life. There are plenty of good colleges you can get in easily. Think outside the box. |
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Does anyone here watch the show English Teacher? They did a very funny episode on the concept of accommodations. It takes place in a public high school in Austin, and the school was administering a college entrance exam. One of the kids qualified for accommodations so was taking the exam separately.
The show sends up the concept of accommodations. At one point the student is shown unrolling an area rug and setting out a lighted mirror and brushing her hair, and the principal explains she's permitted 6 personal items to help her feel comfortable. They also at one point show the student outside on the track doing some kind of interpretive dance because she's decided she needs a "body break" while her exam proctors have to sit there waiting for her to be ready to go take the exam. One of her proctors is the school principal, who laments that this is what things have come to, and says that when he was in school, instead of accommodating every little thing, schools and communities expected kids to figure it out, and in doing so they developed "grit". The other proctor is a teacher who takes the more contemporary view that it's great kids who might struggle under the old ways are being given opportunities to meet their potential. Though even this teacher waivers a bit at some of the student's behavior. Most relevant to this conversation is the way the more supportive teacher repeatedly notes that they can all agree this particular student has challenges. The student is a semi-regular on the show and is shown in prior episodes as a real PITA who does seem to have issues, but is also clearly very intelligent, often to the point of being manipulative. It's a TV show, not reality, but I thought this was interesting because I do agree that usually the kids getting accommodations do in fact have real challenges. But the show's satirical take also reflects my view, which is that the accommodations offered often do nothing to actually help kids "meet their potential" and instead just become a game and a power struggle that often limits kids more than it lifts them up. I agree with the sympathetic teacher that the kids getting accommodations often have real challenges that schools should be looking to help solve, but also agree with the principal that simply accommodating these kids' is, in the long run, depriving them of something essential. Call it grit, or resilient, or self-reliance -- it's depriving them of opportunities to practice survival in an environment that doesn't cater to them, also known as "reality." Anyway, worth watching IMO. That show actually does a great job of addressing a lot of the hot button education topics of the day in ways that are way more nuanced and enlightening than politicians or the media discuss them. Also, while my description here doesn't do it justice at all, it is incredibly funny. |
Sorry, but this isn’t a real problem. A kid not getting into an Ivy is a made up problem. I don’t care how badly they or their parents want it. Kids have an easier life now than in the history of humanity |
THIS x1000 We live in VA and I know so many happy, successful, fulfilled people who went to VA state schools people on this site would look down their nose at. The proof is in the pudding! |
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No worries Project 2025 says no more accommodations.
The Heritage Foundation, Theil and Musk have no use for kids who are not white and perfect |
| For one diagnosed as being dyslexic, would reading the answer first before reading the question be a legitimate accommodation ? |
I’m not the time off PP. But my firm does have a huge problem with younger associates not understanding that they need to get their deliverables done by the deadline, and if they don’t understand the task or it’s taking too long they need to communicate that long before the deadline occurs. Not allow the deadline to occur, and then only when pressed, admit they didn’t do it yet or didn’t understand it. And yes, sometimes in this line of work we work into the evening or on a weekend. If that is a hard no for you, then it’s probably not the right place for you. That’s fine, but at our rates our clients expect responsiveness. We can have a societal discussion about whether that is good or not, but at this point in time if we don’t meet deadlines our clients will leave for firms who will. |
Exactly. Nobody who has ever had to have extra time to accomplish tasks is cut out for big law. Acknowledge the disability and that it isn't compatible with all jobs. Or just teach the kids how to handle their time and cut out the disability completely. |
Extended time big law senior associate checking in! We do fine! |
You know some of the most gifted litigators in the world have dyslexia and learning disabilities, right? Take a look at David Boies and Elizabeth Cabraser. |
I’m the quoted PP. Not making deliverable deadlines absent an emergency isn’t okay, especially if there isn’t ongoing communication well in advance about whether the deadline isn’t workable. No dispute there. But big law and many law firms are incredibly unaccommodating of sick days, child illness, family emergencies, death, etc., and it’s both truly unacceptable on a personal level but also frequently illegal. |
I honestly despise parents like you. If your kids are “highly successful in school” it is because the nature of their disabilities was extremely mild, not because you have some secret sauce of parental effort. Yet you will grab every accommodation you can. |