Accommodation Nation

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Anonymous wrote:All of the defensive parents who have kids with real disabilities should be equally annoyed and outraged that a good number of these kids are using a fake diagnosis to pretend that they have a disability and cheat on tests.

If you attend a private school or live in an affluent neighborhood, you will know of a kid (or in my kid's case, dozens of kids) who had zero issues at school, zero issues getting As throughout middle school and zero need for additional time on tests until they found out around 8th or 9th grade that they can tell a doctor that they are struggling with anxiety or have difficulty paying attention in class and can get extra time for tests. This is a very easy thing to do for wealthy kids.

In fact, certain independent college counselors recommend this to parents as a strategy for getting additional time to score high on the SATs.

No one here is saying that a kid with actual physical limitations should be denied accommodations.


All the defensive parents who have kids with "real disabilities" know that their kids' medical information is private, and that anyone who is throwing around statements like "40% of students have accomodations and they're all fake" is talking out of their nether regions. Many disabilities are not "visible," and no one except the kids' school and their doctors has the full picture. Parents who have kids who are struggling know enough not to judge what they don't know.


It doesn’t make any sense 20% or a class of 100 kids have disabilities that needing two times of exam time. What do they do when they are in the workforce? Do they get extra time?


Most extra time is 1.5 times. My dyslexic kid reads slower than most but is wicked smart. He will not be taking timed tests when he is in the workforce.

Additionally, allowing him extra time enabled him to stay in advanced classes and be challenged to his intellectual ability. I don’t think he’d have the writing skills he now has, had he not had the accommodation in middle and high school.



Hopefully he won’t be in any sort of job where quick thinking and quick response time matters.

It’s wild how many people pretend timed tests are some silly, arbitrary, meaningless exercise.


Successful dyslexics:
Henry Ford
Richard Branson
Steve Jobs
Winston Churchill
Thomas Edison
David Boies


No one said anything about success. We’re talking about the very real fact that in many jobs time limits actually matter.


The time limits are very rarely those akin to timed tests. You have a day (or a half day) to do an assignment. And if you don't think you can make it work, you can say something.


Tell that to your pilot, doofus.
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Anonymous wrote:All of the defensive parents who have kids with real disabilities should be equally annoyed and outraged that a good number of these kids are using a fake diagnosis to pretend that they have a disability and cheat on tests.

If you attend a private school or live in an affluent neighborhood, you will know of a kid (or in my kid's case, dozens of kids) who had zero issues at school, zero issues getting As throughout middle school and zero need for additional time on tests until they found out around 8th or 9th grade that they can tell a doctor that they are struggling with anxiety or have difficulty paying attention in class and can get extra time for tests. This is a very easy thing to do for wealthy kids.

In fact, certain independent college counselors recommend this to parents as a strategy for getting additional time to score high on the SATs.

No one here is saying that a kid with actual physical limitations should be denied accommodations.


All the defensive parents who have kids with "real disabilities" know that their kids' medical information is private, and that anyone who is throwing around statements like "40% of students have accomodations and they're all fake" is talking out of their nether regions. Many disabilities are not "visible," and no one except the kids' school and their doctors has the full picture. Parents who have kids who are struggling know enough not to judge what they don't know.


It doesn’t make any sense 20% or a class of 100 kids have disabilities that needing two times of exam time. What do they do when they are in the workforce? Do they get extra time?


Most extra time is 1.5 times. My dyslexic kid reads slower than most but is wicked smart. He will not be taking timed tests when he is in the workforce.

Additionally, allowing him extra time enabled him to stay in advanced classes and be challenged to his intellectual ability. I don’t think he’d have the writing skills he now has, had he not had the accommodation in middle and high school.



Hopefully he won’t be in any sort of job where quick thinking and quick response time matters.

It’s wild how many people pretend timed tests are some silly, arbitrary, meaningless exercise.


Successful dyslexics:
Henry Ford
Richard Branson
Steve Jobs
Winston Churchill
Thomas Edison
David Boies


No one said anything about success. We’re talking about the very real fact that in many jobs time limits actually matter.


It always warms my heart when I see the parents of kid without learning disabilities so committed to and focused on the long term success of my LD kid. You would think it would be easy enough for those parents to decide that my kid, who is a stranger to them, should just figure it out for themselves like the millions of people with disabilities before them. But poster like this remind me how important the success of LD kids is for everyone.


This is a non sequitur.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of the defensive parents who have kids with real disabilities should be equally annoyed and outraged that a good number of these kids are using a fake diagnosis to pretend that they have a disability and cheat on tests.

If you attend a private school or live in an affluent neighborhood, you will know of a kid (or in my kid's case, dozens of kids) who had zero issues at school, zero issues getting As throughout middle school and zero need for additional time on tests until they found out around 8th or 9th grade that they can tell a doctor that they are struggling with anxiety or have difficulty paying attention in class and can get extra time for tests. This is a very easy thing to do for wealthy kids.

In fact, certain independent college counselors recommend this to parents as a strategy for getting additional time to score high on the SATs.

No one here is saying that a kid with actual physical limitations should be denied accommodations.


All the defensive parents who have kids with "real disabilities" know that their kids' medical information is private, and that anyone who is throwing around statements like "40% of students have accomodations and they're all fake" is talking out of their nether regions. Many disabilities are not "visible," and no one except the kids' school and their doctors has the full picture. Parents who have kids who are struggling know enough not to judge what they don't know.


It doesn’t make any sense 20% or a class of 100 kids have disabilities that needing two times of exam time. What do they do when they are in the workforce? Do they get extra time?


Most extra time is 1.5 times. My dyslexic kid reads slower than most but is wicked smart. He will not be taking timed tests when he is in the workforce.

Additionally, allowing him extra time enabled him to stay in advanced classes and be challenged to his intellectual ability. I don’t think he’d have the writing skills he now has, had he not had the accommodation in middle and high school.



I meant a coding class.
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Anonymous wrote:All of the defensive parents who have kids with real disabilities should be equally annoyed and outraged that a good number of these kids are using a fake diagnosis to pretend that they have a disability and cheat on tests.

If you attend a private school or live in an affluent neighborhood, you will know of a kid (or in my kid's case, dozens of kids) who had zero issues at school, zero issues getting As throughout middle school and zero need for additional time on tests until they found out around 8th or 9th grade that they can tell a doctor that they are struggling with anxiety or have difficulty paying attention in class and can get extra time for tests. This is a very easy thing to do for wealthy kids.

In fact, certain independent college counselors recommend this to parents as a strategy for getting additional time to score high on the SATs.

No one here is saying that a kid with actual physical limitations should be denied accommodations.


All the defensive parents who have kids with "real disabilities" know that their kids' medical information is private, and that anyone who is throwing around statements like "40% of students have accomodations and they're all fake" is talking out of their nether regions. Many disabilities are not "visible," and no one except the kids' school and their doctors has the full picture. Parents who have kids who are struggling know enough not to judge what they don't know.


It doesn’t make any sense 20% or a class of 100 kids have disabilities that needing two times of exam time. What do they do when they are in the workforce? Do they get extra time?


Most extra time is 1.5 times. My dyslexic kid reads slower than most but is wicked smart. He will not be taking timed tests when he is in the workforce.

Additionally, allowing him extra time enabled him to stay in advanced classes and be challenged to his intellectual ability. I don’t think he’d have the writing skills he now has, had he not had the accommodation in middle and high school.



Hopefully he won’t be in any sort of job where quick thinking and quick response time matters.

It’s wild how many people pretend timed tests are some silly, arbitrary, meaningless exercise.


Successful dyslexics:
Henry Ford
Richard Branson
Steve Jobs
Winston Churchill
Thomas Edison
David Boies


No one said anything about success. We’re talking about the very real fact that in many jobs time limits actually matter.


The time limits are very rarely those akin to timed tests. You have a day (or a half day) to do an assignment. And if you don't think you can make it work, you can say something.


Tell that to your pilot, doofus.


Right. Pilots usually do lots of timed reading and writing while flying planes.
Anonymous
the reason 504 and IEPs exist is because teachers. school districts and admins don't want to do any work. They want to do things one way and the legal process makes them do something out of the same lesson plans they have used for 20 years.

The problem isn't accommodations- it is adults being jerks to children.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of the defensive parents who have kids with real disabilities should be equally annoyed and outraged that a good number of these kids are using a fake diagnosis to pretend that they have a disability and cheat on tests.

If you attend a private school or live in an affluent neighborhood, you will know of a kid (or in my kid's case, dozens of kids) who had zero issues at school, zero issues getting As throughout middle school and zero need for additional time on tests until they found out around 8th or 9th grade that they can tell a doctor that they are struggling with anxiety or have difficulty paying attention in class and can get extra time for tests. This is a very easy thing to do for wealthy kids.

In fact, certain independent college counselors recommend this to parents as a strategy for getting additional time to score high on the SATs.

No one here is saying that a kid with actual physical limitations should be denied accommodations.


All the defensive parents who have kids with "real disabilities" know that their kids' medical information is private, and that anyone who is throwing around statements like "40% of students have accomodations and they're all fake" is talking out of their nether regions. Many disabilities are not "visible," and no one except the kids' school and their doctors has the full picture. Parents who have kids who are struggling know enough not to judge what they don't know.


It doesn’t make any sense 20% or a class of 100 kids have disabilities that needing two times of exam time. What do they do when they are in the workforce? Do they get extra time?


Most extra time is 1.5 times. My dyslexic kid reads slower than most but is wicked smart. He will not be taking timed tests when he is in the workforce.

Additionally, allowing him extra time enabled him to stay in advanced classes and be challenged to his intellectual ability. I don’t think he’d have the writing skills he now has, had he not had the accommodation in middle and high school.



Hopefully he won’t be in any sort of job where quick thinking and quick response time matters.

It’s wild how many people pretend timed tests are some silly, arbitrary, meaningless exercise.


Successful dyslexics:
Henry Ford
Richard Branson
Steve Jobs
Winston Churchill
Thomas Edison
David Boies


No one said anything about success. We’re talking about the very real fact that in many jobs time limits actually matter.


The time limits are very rarely those akin to timed tests. You have a day (or a half day) to do an assignment. And if you don't think you can make it work, you can say something.


Tell that to your pilot, doofus.


Right. Pilots usually do lots of timed reading and writing while flying planes.


If this is your honest takeaway then boy howdy, there is not enough time in the world for you to arrive at the correct answer…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:the reason 504 and IEPs exist is because teachers. school districts and admins don't want to do any work. They want to do things one way and the legal process makes them do something out of the same lesson plans they have used for 20 years.

The problem isn't accommodations- it is adults being jerks to children.


Pay them more, dummy. Teachers aren’t your personal household servants. They’re not little Timmy’s private tutors providing their services for peanuts.
Anonymous
Teachers get payed plenty for how they behave and complain. Step up a little and you will be valued.
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