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30 years ago we recorded the lectures on tape recorders. |
Absolutely, college is seriously overrated. It needs to rethink how to motivate kids to learn and inspire them. |
It doesn’t make any sense 20% or a class of 100 kids have disabilities that needing two times of exam time. What do they do when they are in the workforce? Do they get extra time? |
Most extra time is 1.5 times. My dyslexic kid reads slower than most but is wicked smart. He will not be taking timed tests when he is in the workforce. Additionally, allowing him extra time enabled him to stay in advanced classes and be challenged to his intellectual ability. I don’t think he’d have the writing skills he now has, had he not had the accommodation in middle and high school. |
Hopefully he won’t be in any sort of job where quick thinking and quick response time matters. It’s wild how many people pretend timed tests are some silly, arbitrary, meaningless exercise. |
Successful dyslexics: Henry Ford Richard Branson Steve Jobs Winston Churchill Thomas Edison David Boies |
No one said anything about success. We’re talking about the very real fact that in many jobs time limits actually matter. |
But, you didn’t have them instantly transcribed into written text, then used that text as training material for AI, to then ask AI for succinct summary—all while not taking one note, not striving to critically think through the topics, not making cognitive sense of the information, not performing independent analysis of material, and not reading one page of a textbook. |
It is not 20% of the class have disabilities that need extra time, it's 20% of the class that have disabilities requiring accommodations. There are a whole slew of things that could require a kid to need accommodations, some not even academically related. My kids, for example, have severe food allergies, and when they get to college they're going to have to register with the disability office so that they can get housing with a private kitchen as well as to get out of paying for a meal plan when they can't eat any of the food anyways. Not all accommodations are made up to give kids an advantage, my kids are going to need them so that they can survive. |
The time limits are very rarely those akin to timed tests. You have a day (or a half day) to do an assignment. And if you don't think you can make it work, you can say something. |
The problem is not with ‘true’ learning disabilities. The problem is that there are indeed fakers and scammers who truly do not need extra time but they pay for scripts to get it to look like they have a problem requiring extra time. |
Laziness has kicked in and critical thinking is out the door. A new generation of AI summary students with diplomas has arrived. |
But people seem to be obsessed with the "20%" statistic and keep forgetting that there are many, many things not even related to learning disabilities that would require them to register with the disability office for accommodations. Allergies, asthma, diabetics - all things that would require accommodations. |
It always warms my heart when I see the parents of kid without learning disabilities so committed to and focused on the long term success of my LD kid. You would think it would be easy enough for those parents to decide that my kid, who is a stranger to them, should just figure it out for themselves like the millions of people with disabilities before them. But poster like this remind me how important the success of LD kids is for everyone. |
And they were able to succeed just fine with the same standards in school as everyone else and no IEP and 504 plan |