Accommodation Nation

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Anonymous wrote:I work as an attorney and it’s shocking (and getting worse every year) how many new employees come in that don’t seem to understand that when I say I need something by noon on Thursday, that isn’t a guideline or a suggestion or a wish. I’m sure I’m not very popular with the young ones. They either figure it out after the first couple assignments or they find other employment.

I’m an attorney too and I’m seeing younger employees come in with that mindset too. Constant requests for time off, constant sick days, not planning ahead, not taking initiative, disregarding instructions. I don’t know if it’s the pandemic, the economy, accommodations, helicopter parenting, or some combination of everything.

More attorneys sharing parenting responsibilities across gender lines, worse childcare options, and fewer people thinking their employers will love them back for making their entire life work.

In the law firm world, the client does not care about those things. Especially not at the rates we charge. If that’s not for you, totally understand. But if you want big law pay, you’ll have to get up to speed or be pushed out. When we tell a client we will get them something by a deadline, we do it barring truly extenuating circumstances. And if you are a litigator, the deadlines are truly firm and imposed by the court/the statute.

I say this as an attorney (one of maybe the majority of this board), but maybe you should staff cases/deals better? Your employees are human beings with human needs. And they have legal entitlement to things like paid sick leave, parental leave, FMLA, etc. You need to structure your staffing to be able to accommodate these inevitabilities, especially when so many firms makes (bullshit) promises about supporting working parents and valuing employee health and wellbeing.

Being a big law attorney is a demanding job. It’s not the kind of job for someone who needs a soft workplace. If we have a filing deadline, we have to get it done whether your kid is sick or not. And no we don’t just keep extra staff on hand just in case. If you let a senior attorney down enough times they will stop bringing work to you. Again, it’s not for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

When was the last time your boss was going to an important client meeting and dropped a list of vli
client concerns and complains she just got in an email and said "give me responses to,these I can use to keep the contract. I need it in 30 minutes because they are showing up at 4."

You don't get extra time.

+1. A timed exam requires you to quickly assess concepts are familiar with, evaluate your options, commit to the best choice, and move on to make another decision. If you make poor choices (wrong answers), or aren't able to commit to an answer quickly enough (too slow), you don't do well.

Many, many jobs require "timed tests" all day long, in the form of quickly assessing a situation, making a good decision, and moving on to the next thing.

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

Most times your boss tells you "I need this today" it doesn't mean you get to nitpick and say "well, if you gave Legal 3 days to respond instead of 5, I could turn it in tomorrow, right? My reasonable accommodation says I get more time!"

How often does your boss say, “I need you answer three unrelated questions in 500 words each concerning topics discussed over the last 4 months in exactly 90 minutes”?

What if you needed to just one of those things in 30 minutes? Because that happens all the time.

I've never had a single request like that in my *checks notes* 18 years of full-time employment.

That’s because nobody thinks you can do it and asks someone else.

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

When was the last time your boss was going to an important client meeting and dropped a list of vli
client concerns and complains she just got in an email and said "give me responses to,these I can use to keep the contract. I need it in 30 minutes because they are showing up at 4."

You don't get extra time.

Personally, none of my “urgent requests” are like that. If I have a real emergency, it’s almost always related to the more mundane issues involved with filings, or hoping to find an on point case for a disorganized partner in advance of a meet and confer.

Anything requiring rigorous analysis and written work product goes through multiple, redundant levels of review to ensure perfection. Everything is done with painstaking precision. The frantic assignments are about working in a line edit 15 minutes before a filing deadline or something like that.

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

Most times your boss tells you "I need this today" it doesn't mean you get to nitpick and say "well, if you gave Legal 3 days to respond instead of 5, I could turn it in tomorrow, right? My reasonable accommodation says I get more time!"

How often does your boss say, “I need you answer three unrelated questions in 500 words each concerning topics discussed over the last 4 months in exactly 90 minutes”?

What if you needed to just one of those things in 30 minutes? Because that happens all the time.

I've never had a single request like that in my *checks notes* 18 years of full-time employment.

That’s because nobody thinks you can do it and asks someone else.

More likely your employer makes your tasks consist only of rapid response rote work because they know you’re not capable of critical thinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work as an attorney and it’s shocking (and getting worse every year) how many new employees come in that don’t seem to understand that when I say I need something by noon on Thursday, that isn’t a guideline or a suggestion or a wish. I’m sure I’m not very popular with the young ones. They either figure it out after the first couple assignments or they find other employment.

I’m an attorney too and I’m seeing younger employees come in with that mindset too. Constant requests for time off, constant sick days, not planning ahead, not taking initiative, disregarding instructions. I don’t know if it’s the pandemic, the economy, accommodations, helicopter parenting, or some combination of everything.

More attorneys sharing parenting responsibilities across gender lines, worse childcare options, and fewer people thinking their employers will love them back for making their entire life work.

In the law firm world, the client does not care about those things. Especially not at the rates we charge. If that’s not for you, totally understand. But if you want big law pay, you’ll have to get up to speed or be pushed out. When we tell a client we will get them something by a deadline, we do it barring truly extenuating circumstances. And if you are a litigator, the deadlines are truly firm and imposed by the court/the statute.

I say this as an attorney (one of maybe the majority of this board), but maybe you should staff cases/deals better? Your employees are human beings with human needs. And they have legal entitlement to things like paid sick leave, parental leave, FMLA, etc. You need to structure your staffing to be able to accommodate these inevitabilities, especially when so many firms makes (bullshit) promises about supporting working parents and valuing employee health and wellbeing.

Being a big law attorney is a demanding job. It’s not the kind of job for someone who needs a soft workplace. If we have a filing deadline, we have to get it done whether your kid is sick or not. And no we don’t just keep extra staff on hand just in case. If you let a senior attorney down enough times they will stop bringing work to you. Again, it’s not for everyone.

Complying with DC paid leave laws, FMLA, and the firm’s written employment policies isn’t “soft.” It’s a requirement to run a business. Maybe if the attorneys running the show can’t figure out how to follow basic laws, they shouldn’t be running a law firm tasked with ensuring legal compliance.

In any event, I don’t disagree with your assessment of the culture of biglaw. I personally lateraled after an inexcusable experience with inflexibility. I requested a single day off two weeks in advance to take my mom (multiple states away) to her cancer surgery. I reminded everyone the day before and set an OOO. Managing partner called me three times, emailed me five times, and texted me “HURRY PLEASE” all before 9 am for something that was absolutely objectively not urgent. These firms are run by psychopaths, and I’m thrilled the younger generation is pushing back.

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

Most times your boss tells you "I need this today" it doesn't mean you get to nitpick and say "well, if you gave Legal 3 days to respond instead of 5, I could turn it in tomorrow, right? My reasonable accommodation says I get more time!"

How often does your boss say, “I need you answer three unrelated questions in 500 words each concerning topics discussed over the last 4 months in exactly 90 minutes”?

What if you needed to just one of those things in 30 minutes? Because that happens all the time.

I've never had a single request like that in my *checks notes* 18 years of full-time employment.

That’s because nobody thinks you can do it and asks someone else.

More likely your employer makes your tasks consist only of rapid response rote work because they know you’re not capable of critical thinking.

Right, that’s why I consistently get excellent performance reviews, have outlasted the vast majority of associates in terms of years at the firm, and work at a firm that pays above market. You got me. I’m just a dumbass with an easy job paying 600k a year (I guess that would actually make me a genius if I could pull that off).

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

Most times your boss tells you "I need this today" it doesn't mean you get to nitpick and say "well, if you gave Legal 3 days to respond instead of 5, I could turn it in tomorrow, right? My reasonable accommodation says I get more time!"

How often does your boss say, “I need you answer three unrelated questions in 500 words each concerning topics discussed over the last 4 months in exactly 90 minutes”?

What if you needed to just one of those things in 30 minutes? Because that happens all the time.

I've never had a single request like that in my *checks notes* 18 years of full-time employment.

That’s because nobody thinks you can do it and asks someone else.

More likely your employer makes your tasks consist only of rapid response rote work because they know you’re not capable of critical thinking.

Right, that’s why I consistently get excellent performance reviews, have outlasted the vast majority of associates in terms of years at the firm, and work at a firm that pays above market. You got me. I’m just a dumbass with an easy job paying 600k a year (I guess that would actually make me a genius if I could pull that off).

On the internet you can be whomever you want to be. But if you were actually a power player at a big law firm, you’d be out being a rainmaker with clients and racking up the billable hours, not spewing ignorance and bile across DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

Most times your boss tells you "I need this today" it doesn't mean you get to nitpick and say "well, if you gave Legal 3 days to respond instead of 5, I could turn it in tomorrow, right? My reasonable accommodation says I get more time!"

How often does your boss say, “I need you answer three unrelated questions in 500 words each concerning topics discussed over the last 4 months in exactly 90 minutes”?

What if you needed to just one of those things in 30 minutes? Because that happens all the time.

I've never had a single request like that in my *checks notes* 18 years of full-time employment.

That’s because nobody thinks you can do it and asks someone else.

More likely your employer makes your tasks consist only of rapid response rote work because they know you’re not capable of critical thinking.

Right, that’s why I consistently get excellent performance reviews, have outlasted the vast majority of associates in terms of years at the firm, and work at a firm that pays above market. You got me. I’m just a dumbass with an easy job paying 600k a year (I guess that would actually make me a genius if I could pull that off).

On the internet you can be whomever you want to be. But if you were actually a power player at a big law firm, you’d be out being a rainmaker with clients and racking up the billable hours, not spewing ignorance and bile across DCUM.

I’m a senior associate who already hit my billable target for the year, but believe whatever you want.

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Anonymous wrote:I work as an attorney and it’s shocking (and getting worse every year) how many new employees come in that don’t seem to understand that when I say I need something by noon on Thursday, that isn’t a guideline or a suggestion or a wish. I’m sure I’m not very popular with the young ones. They either figure it out after the first couple assignments or they find other employment.

I’m an attorney too and I’m seeing younger employees come in with that mindset too. Constant requests for time off, constant sick days, not planning ahead, not taking initiative, disregarding instructions. I don’t know if it’s the pandemic, the economy, accommodations, helicopter parenting, or some combination of everything.

More attorneys sharing parenting responsibilities across gender lines, worse childcare options, and fewer people thinking their employers will love them back for making their entire life work.

In the law firm world, the client does not care about those things. Especially not at the rates we charge. If that’s not for you, totally understand. But if you want big law pay, you’ll have to get up to speed or be pushed out. When we tell a client we will get them something by a deadline, we do it barring truly extenuating circumstances. And if you are a litigator, the deadlines are truly firm and imposed by the court/the statute.

I say this as an attorney (one of maybe the majority of this board), but maybe you should staff cases/deals better? Your employees are human beings with human needs. And they have legal entitlement to things like paid sick leave, parental leave, FMLA, etc. You need to structure your staffing to be able to accommodate these inevitabilities, especially when so many firms makes (bullshit) promises about supporting working parents and valuing employee health and wellbeing.

Being a big law attorney is a demanding job. It’s not the kind of job for someone who needs a soft workplace. If we have a filing deadline, we have to get it done whether your kid is sick or not. And no we don’t just keep extra staff on hand just in case. If you let a senior attorney down enough times they will stop bringing work to you. Again, it’s not for everyone.

Complying with DC paid leave laws, FMLA, and the firm’s written employment policies isn’t “soft.” It’s a requirement to run a business. Maybe if the attorneys running the show can’t figure out how to follow basic laws, they shouldn’t be running a law firm tasked with ensuring legal compliance.

In any event, I don’t disagree with your assessment of the culture of biglaw. I personally lateraled after an inexcusable experience with inflexibility. I requested a single day off two weeks in advance to take my mom (multiple states away) to her cancer surgery. I reminded everyone the day before and set an OOO. Managing partner called me three times, emailed me five times, and texted me “HURRY PLEASE” all before 9 am for something that was absolutely objectively not urgent. These firms are run by psychopaths, and I’m thrilled the younger generation is pushing back.

That’s not at all what we are talking about. We are talking about employees who are not on any sort of leave not being able to meet deadlines communicated well in advance. It’s happening more and more and the younger workforce is showing no time management whatsoever. If I request a 30-60 minute deliverable from you on Friday morning, I want it on Friday before you leave. Friday is still a workday.

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Anonymous wrote:I work as an attorney and it’s shocking (and getting worse every year) how many new employees come in that don’t seem to understand that when I say I need something by noon on Thursday, that isn’t a guideline or a suggestion or a wish. I’m sure I’m not very popular with the young ones. They either figure it out after the first couple assignments or they find other employment.

I’m an attorney too and I’m seeing younger employees come in with that mindset too. Constant requests for time off, constant sick days, not planning ahead, not taking initiative, disregarding instructions. I don’t know if it’s the pandemic, the economy, accommodations, helicopter parenting, or some combination of everything.

More attorneys sharing parenting responsibilities across gender lines, worse childcare options, and fewer people thinking their employers will love them back for making their entire life work.

In the law firm world, the client does not care about those things. Especially not at the rates we charge. If that’s not for you, totally understand. But if you want big law pay, you’ll have to get up to speed or be pushed out. When we tell a client we will get them something by a deadline, we do it barring truly extenuating circumstances. And if you are a litigator, the deadlines are truly firm and imposed by the court/the statute.

I say this as an attorney (one of maybe the majority of this board), but maybe you should staff cases/deals better? Your employees are human beings with human needs. And they have legal entitlement to things like paid sick leave, parental leave, FMLA, etc. You need to structure your staffing to be able to accommodate these inevitabilities, especially when so many firms makes (bullshit) promises about supporting working parents and valuing employee health and wellbeing.

Being a big law attorney is a demanding job. It’s not the kind of job for someone who needs a soft workplace. If we have a filing deadline, we have to get it done whether your kid is sick or not. And no we don’t just keep extra staff on hand just in case. If you let a senior attorney down enough times they will stop bringing work to you. Again, it’s not for everyone.

Complying with DC paid leave laws, FMLA, and the firm’s written employment policies isn’t “soft.” It’s a requirement to run a business. Maybe if the attorneys running the show can’t figure out how to follow basic laws, they shouldn’t be running a law firm tasked with ensuring legal compliance.

In any event, I don’t disagree with your assessment of the culture of biglaw. I personally lateraled after an inexcusable experience with inflexibility. I requested a single day off two weeks in advance to take my mom (multiple states away) to her cancer surgery. I reminded everyone the day before and set an OOO. Managing partner called me three times, emailed me five times, and texted me “HURRY PLEASE” all before 9 am for something that was absolutely objectively not urgent. These firms are run by psychopaths, and I’m thrilled the younger generation is pushing back.

That’s not at all what we are talking about. We are talking about employees who are not on any sort of leave not being able to meet deadlines communicated well in advance. It’s happening more and more and the younger workforce is showing no time management whatsoever. If I request a 30-60 minute deliverable from you on Friday morning, I want it on Friday before you leave. Friday is still a workday.

That's what PP was talking about (don't know if that's you). "Constant requests for time off, constant sick days" as specific complaints. And in my experience, law firms are not respectful at all of needing to take the day off for your own illness, a child's illness, or a family member's illness.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in a tough STEM major. I am wondering if 20-30 percent of the kids have accommodations, then it’s kind of like my son starting a 5K 1/4 mile behind. That’s not fair.

Don’t worry, if the kids actually need accommodation they are starting a mile behind him.

Having a serious disability isn’t nearly the cheat code people seem to think it is.

20-30 percent don’t have disabilities or if they do my son also has executive functioning issurs

17% of public school students have disabilities, at least as of 2020. So 20% isn't far off.

https://www.ed.gov/media/document/crdc-student-disabilities-snapshotpdf-21420.pdf

Accommodations take a range of forms. My kid has had a medical 504 due to a chronic gastro issue, and her accommodations consist of a permanent bathroom pass so she doesn’t need to ask each teacher if she needs to use the bathroom when she’s feeling ill. She also gets an extra day to make up work when she’s been sick and absent of school if she presents a doctor’s note or record of hospitalization.

How many of you are jealous of my child’s accommodation and think she’s getting an unfair advantage? Some of you on this thread are truly nasty people who can’t recognize how lucky you have to have a healthy kid.

Not everything is about you, Larmom.

It’s too bad your parents didn’t get you accommodations when you were younger so that you could function in society.

Non sequitur. Take a little more time to think through your next attempt at a sick burn, bruh.

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

Most times your boss tells you "I need this today" it doesn't mean you get to nitpick and say "well, if you gave Legal 3 days to respond instead of 5, I could turn it in tomorrow, right? My reasonable accommodation says I get more time!"

How often does your boss say, “I need you answer three unrelated questions in 500 words each concerning topics discussed over the last 4 months in exactly 90 minutes”?

Since the PP seems to think that all jobs have the same requirements, my guess is that they’ve never been employed.

Let's see: I've run my own business, worked as a cashier, worked as a swimming lessons instructor, freelanced as a writer, worked as a fed, worked at a nonprofit organization, taught elementary school, taught middle school, drove a van, clerked for a federal judge, and worked for two biglaw firms (one of which I'm still employed by). My jobs have run the gamut. I've had one work assignment in my life that came close to approximating a timed exam.

Sounds like you have trouble keeping a job. This tracks.

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

When was the last time your boss was going to an important client meeting and dropped a list of vli
client concerns and complains she just got in an email and said "give me responses to,these I can use to keep the contract. I need it in 30 minutes because they are showing up at 4."

You don't get extra time.

+1. A timed exam requires you to quickly assess concepts are familiar with, evaluate your options, commit to the best choice, and move on to make another decision. If you make poor choices (wrong answers), or aren't able to commit to an answer quickly enough (too slow), you don't do well.

Many, many jobs require "timed tests" all day long, in the form of quickly assessing a situation, making a good decision, and moving on to the next thing.

Exactly. I really not understanding a lot of these points acting like taking a timed tests is some horrible, stressful situation. If a timed test in college, over material you’ve been studying for weeks/months, is more demanding and stressful than anything that’s ever been required of you at your employment, well…your income likely reflects your low demand, low pressure job. Which is fine, but that’s probably not what kids in Ivy League or top schools are aiming for. I can’t think of any high paying careers with little stress, no time sensitive deadlines, little demands.

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman Ivy child has two roommates and both have extra time. They each are given 2-3 days to take exams that the rest of the kids are given 2-3 hours to complete. Both attended private schools. Both are very bright and very wealthy. Both have the extra time for "anxiety."

I'd be pissed if I was a professor or a person who had a kid with dyslexia or significant ADHD or a learning difference. It's apparently a huge difficulty to get these exams proctored, especially if the student also needs a quiet study pod because there are not enough pods for the onslaught of students who now require them.

I have no idea how this generation of kids will cope in jobs with deadlines and noise and without parents to run interference. But I guess the workforce will adapt. Maybe everyone will get a week and a soundproof pod to write an email.

Easy. You find a job that doesn’t have deadlines. There are lots of jobs like that out there.

When was the last time you sat for a timed test at your job? The lack of understanding here is unreal.

Most times your boss tells you "I need this today" it doesn't mean you get to nitpick and say "well, if you gave Legal 3 days to respond instead of 5, I could turn it in tomorrow, right? My reasonable accommodation says I get more time!"

How often does your boss say, “I need you answer three unrelated questions in 500 words each concerning topics discussed over the last 4 months in exactly 90 minutes”?

What if you needed to just one of those things in 30 minutes? Because that happens all the time.

I've never had a single request like that in my *checks notes* 18 years of full-time employment.

That’s because nobody thinks you can do it and asks someone else.

More likely your employer makes your tasks consist only of rapid response rote work because they know you’re not capable of critical thinking.

It's telling that you wouldn't be able to figure out something so easy yet think you're called on for the big thinking. Sure.