Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger - arrest warrant affadavit

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.


And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.



She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.


No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.


Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.


No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.


Y’all are so warped. No one is wearing masks, in a residence at 4am in 2022, even in “liberal areas.” I haven’t worn a mask indoors in a private residence since I was vaccinated spring of 2021. Nor have I seen anyone else do it.


But if you are living in a party house and your mind is struggling to make sense of what you just saw, what makes more sense: my roommate had a weird guy over who is wearing a covid mask or a psycho killer just killed my roommates and is trying to hide his identity? I can only imagine if she called the cops with this story (weird but not threatening noises, guy walking through house wearing surgical mask), even if they did go out on the call, they would have told her to drink a glass of water, go to bed, and never bother them about this cr*p again because they aren't her mommy and daddy.


+1 the noises that she heard do not indicate murder. Not sure why some people are fixed on the roommate. It seems that Even if she called 911, they wouldn’t survive.


Because it's much easier and more satisfying to twist yourself into a pretzel and blame her, rather than the man who came in and stabbed them all to death.


You can think her behaviour was odd but also not blame her. 2 things can be true.
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Anonymous wrote:I just heard a crime analyst speaking on CNN and he said many are saying this doesn’t fit the profile of a first killing. So investigators are looking into unsolved cases in Pennsylvania and other places he’s been to see if anything matches his profile….. chilling.

Interesting. Is there a link?


https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/01/06/idaho-killings-suspect-bryan-kohberger-surveillance-miller-intvu-cnntm-vpx.cnn



Interesting! Thank you.
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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.


And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.



She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.


No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.


Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.


No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.


Y’all are so warped. No one is wearing masks, in a residence at 4am in 2022, even in “liberal areas.” I haven’t worn a mask indoors in a private residence since I was vaccinated spring of 2021. Nor have I seen anyone else do it.


But if you are living in a party house and your mind is struggling to make sense of what you just saw, what makes more sense: my roommate had a weird guy over who is wearing a covid mask or a psycho killer just killed my roommates and is trying to hide his identity? I can only imagine if she called the cops with this story (weird but not threatening noises, guy walking through house wearing surgical mask), even if they did go out on the call, they would have told her to drink a glass of water, go to bed, and never bother them about this cr*p again because they aren't her mommy and daddy.


+1 the noises that she heard do not indicate murder. Not sure why some people are fixed on the roommate. It seems that Even if she called 911, they wouldn’t survive.


Because it's much easier and more satisfying to twist yourself into a pretzel and blame her, rather than the man who came in and stabbed them all to death.


Literally no one is blaming her. We just wonder why she didn’t call.
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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.


And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.



She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.


No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.


Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.


No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.


Y’all are so warped. No one is wearing masks, in a residence at 4am in 2022, even in “liberal areas.” I haven’t worn a mask indoors in a private residence since I was vaccinated spring of 2021. Nor have I seen anyone else do it.


But if you are living in a party house and your mind is struggling to make sense of what you just saw, what makes more sense: my roommate had a weird guy over who is wearing a covid mask or a psycho killer just killed my roommates and is trying to hide his identity? I can only imagine if she called the cops with this story (weird but not threatening noises, guy walking through house wearing surgical mask), even if they did go out on the call, they would have told her to drink a glass of water, go to bed, and never bother them about this cr*p again because they aren't her mommy and daddy.


+1 the noises that she heard do not indicate murder. Not sure why some people are fixed on the roommate. It seems that Even if she called 911, they wouldn’t survive.


Because it's much easier and more satisfying to twist yourself into a pretzel and blame her, rather than the man who came in and stabbed them all to death.


Literally no one is blaming her. We just wonder why she didn’t call.


It really doesn’t matter why she didn’t call.
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Anonymous wrote:The timeline is very fast. He is seen in his car still driving at 4:04 towards the house and then is seen driving away from the house at 4:20. Since he had to park and walk into the house and then walk back out again, he can't have been in the house for more than about 10-12 minutes. Xana was still on Tik Tok at 4:12.

The surviving roommate was awoken by a noise from the floor above her (exact time unknown) and then heard some crying and the dog barking and that was it before he walked past her. While she might have been sleepy and somewhat still inebriated, usually when you go listen outside your door because you heard a sound that caught your attention, you are very attuned to any noises. He was very quiet. I don't know if it has been released yet if the two girls on the 3rd floor were asleep or awake when they were killed. Xana was awake. Her boyfriend may have been asleep as he had to work in the morning.

The speed and quietness are both interesting factors about this case. I wonder if on one of his previous 12 casing missions, he had gone into the house before and knew the layout.


I think so. It is eerie and gross that he knew which were their rooms. I can't get over him having visited the area TWELVE times.

I can't wait for him to be caught pertaining to other murders in PA and/or WA and/or ID. People like him truly think they are above the law - the arrogance.

Also, having some of my DC about the age of the victims, a public hanging for him might suffice.
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When I lived in an apt., I always had pepper spray on my nightside table for protection at night. I also carried it when I was out at night. My daughter took a self-defense class before she left for college. This story is so horrific and serves as a reminder that we need to remind our children to take protective measures to increase their safety.
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Anonymous wrote:The timeline is very fast. He is seen in his car still driving at 4:04 towards the house and then is seen driving away from the house at 4:20. Since he had to park and walk into the house and then walk back out again, he can't have been in the house for more than about 10-12 minutes. Xana was still on Tik Tok at 4:12.

The surviving roommate was awoken by a noise from the floor above her (exact time unknown) and then heard some crying and the dog barking and that was it before he walked past her. While she might have been sleepy and somewhat still inebriated, usually when you go listen outside your door because you heard a sound that caught your attention, you are very attuned to any noises. He was very quiet. I don't know if it has been released yet if the two girls on the 3rd floor were asleep or awake when they were killed. Xana was awake. Her boyfriend may have been asleep as he had to work in the morning.

The speed and quietness are both interesting factors about this case. I wonder if on one of his previous 12 casing missions, he had gone into the house before and knew the layout.


I think so. It is eerie and gross that he knew which were their rooms. I can't get over him having visited the area TWELVE times.

I can't wait for him to be caught pertaining to other murders in PA and/or WA and/or ID. People like him truly think they are above the law - the arrogance.

Also, having some of my DC about the age of the victims, a public hanging for him might suffice.



If he targeted one girl in particular, hypothetically Kaylee (it was her room in which the two girls were found together?), he might have known which room was hers just from casing the house. Unlikely she closed her curtains all the time, so he would have been able to figure it out. The other kids may well have been collateral damage, just wrong place wrong time.
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Moving on to other information, he thoroughly cleaned his car and was dumping trash in neighbors, trash cans in Pennsylvania. Hopefully there is more evidence there to solidify the case even more. I’m hearing a lot of lawyers, analyze and say that if they were his lawyers, they would advise him to plead guilty.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.


And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.



She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.


No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.


Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.


No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.


Tell me you don't have college kids without telling me you don't have college kids.


PP didn't say college kids were into mask wearing, just that we've all been desensitized to seeing them. Which is true.


Again -- you and pp are clearly not hanging around college kids and are willfully obtuse. As pp said what college kid would think it's normal for someone to hook up with roomie, but put a mask on at 4am to protect people who are probably sleeping for the next 8-10 hours?? Besides, it said in the affidavit that the woman who saw him felt terrified -- can't recall exact wording. That means her body knew something was wrong before her mind necessarily did.


Because they are all likely drunk, which I know from hanging around college students (and having been one).

Half the people on this thread are examining things through a clear-eyed lens that was highly unlikely among students in a supposed "party house."


And with the benefit of hindsight. It’s not a high crime area, and she was use to all kinds of kids coming and going.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.


And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.



She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.


No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.


Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.


No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.


Y’all are so warped. No one is wearing masks, in a residence at 4am in 2022, even in “liberal areas.” I haven’t worn a mask indoors in a private residence since I was vaccinated spring of 2021. Nor have I seen anyone else do it.


But if you are living in a party house and your mind is struggling to make sense of what you just saw, what makes more sense: my roommate had a weird guy over who is wearing a covid mask or a psycho killer just killed my roommates and is trying to hide his identity? I can only imagine if she called the cops with this story (weird but not threatening noises, guy walking through house wearing surgical mask), even if they did go out on the call, they would have told her to drink a glass of water, go to bed, and never bother them about this cr*p again because they aren't her mommy and daddy.


+1 the noises that she heard do not indicate murder. Not sure why some people are fixed on the roommate. It seems that Even if she called 911, they wouldn’t survive.


Because it's much easier and more satisfying to twist yourself into a pretzel and blame her, rather than the man who came in and stabbed them all to death.


You can think her behaviour was odd but also not blame her. 2 things can be true.


Exactly. But so many on this forum are not capable of thinking two different things at the same time. No one is blaming the girl. Yes her behavior was weird.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.


And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.



She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.


No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.


Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.


No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.



Y’all are so warped. No one is wearing masks, in a residence at 4am in 2022, even in “liberal areas.” I haven’t worn a mask indoors in a private residence since I was vaccinated spring of 2021. Nor have I seen anyone else do it.


But if you are living in a party house and your mind is struggling to make sense of what you just saw, what makes more sense: my roommate had a weird guy over who is wearing a covid mask or a psycho killer just killed my roommates and is trying to hide his identity? qI can only imagine if she called the cops with this story (weird but not threatening noises, guy walking through house wearing surgical mask), even if they did go out on the call, they would have told her to drink a glass of water, go to bed, and never bother them about this cr*p again because they aren't her mommy and daddy.



Yep. The people lining up to question why the roommate didn't call the police may be lucky ones who've never had the "pleasure" of being on the other end of how patronizing and unhelpful police can be. Possibly drunk young college woman in the night, even more so.



I am not saying she should have jumped to calling the police. But to say you were frozen in fear (your inner survival mode is kicking in here telling you something is wrong) and then just lock yourself in your bedroom without texting or calling your roommates to see whats going on? They were good friends by all accounts and you don't go check on at least the friend down the hall from you? She got up to open her door 3 times based on noises so she was not so drunk to not hear that she couldnt hear people talking down the hallway. No it's not her fault her roomates got murdered but as a parent of the murdered kids, I'd have a lot of questions on why she chose inaction.
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Anonymous wrote:Moving on to other information, he thoroughly cleaned his car and was dumping trash in neighbors, trash cans in Pennsylvania. Hopefully there is more evidence there to solidify the case even more. I’m hearing a lot of lawyers, analyze and say that if they were his lawyers, they would advise him to plead guilty.


at 4:00 a.m. and wearing gloves while he did it
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Anonymous wrote:I just heard a crime analyst speaking on CNN and he said many are saying this doesn’t fit the profile of a first killing. So investigators are looking into unsolved cases in Pennsylvania and other places he’s been to see if anything matches his profile….. chilling.



Not sure I buy that, was pretty sloppy.

I don’t understand why you don’t! Most killers are caught BECAUSE they got sloppy.
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Anonymous wrote:The timeline is very fast. He is seen in his car still driving at 4:04 towards the house and then is seen driving away from the house at 4:20. Since he had to park and walk into the house and then walk back out again, he can't have been in the house for more than about 10-12 minutes. Xana was still on Tik Tok at 4:12.

The surviving roommate was awoken by a noise from the floor above her (exact time unknown) and then heard some crying and the dog barking and that was it before he walked past her. While she might have been sleepy and somewhat still inebriated, usually when you go listen outside your door because you heard a sound that caught your attention, you are very attuned to any noises. He was very quiet. I don't know if it has been released yet if the two girls on the 3rd floor were asleep or awake when they were killed. Xana was awake. Her boyfriend may have been asleep as he had to work in the morning.

The speed and quietness are both interesting factors about this case. I wonder if on one of his previous 12 casing missions, he had gone into the house before and knew the layout.


I think so. It is eerie and gross that he knew which were their rooms. I can't get over him having visited the area TWELVE times.

I can't wait for him to be caught pertaining to other murders in PA and/or WA and/or ID. People like him truly think they are above the law - the arrogance.

Also, having some of my DC about the age of the victims, a public hanging for him might suffice.



If he targeted one girl in particular, hypothetically Kaylee (it was her room in which the two girls were found together?), he might have known which room was hers just from casing the house. Unlikely she closed her curtains all the time, so he would have been able to figure it out. The other kids may well have been collateral damage, just wrong place wrong time.


Since he drove by the house 12 times, I'd be anything that he was obsessed with one of the girls. My money is on Madison--she was the prettiest, most striking etc. Look at the video outside the food truck. She is gorgeous. Clearly I think the couple was not his obsession.
The only thing is--did he mainly plan on killing one person (Madison or Kaylee) and figured the other one would likely have to be done away with as well and then killed the other two as collateral damage?
Or did he arrive knowing he would be killing 1 or even all 4? Clearly it he didn't intend to kill "exactly 4" because then why not kill 5 and 6? Plus it seems so unlikely that anyone (even a psychopath) would believe they could stab 4 young, healthy adults to death without the neighbors knowing.

I really think he arrived to kill one and 2/3/4 were all done away with to protect himself.


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.


And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.



She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.


No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.


Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.


No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.


Y’all are so warped. No one is wearing masks, in a residence at 4am in 2022, even in “liberal areas.” I haven’t worn a mask indoors in a private residence since I was vaccinated spring of 2021. Nor have I seen anyone else do it.


But if you are living in a party house and your mind is struggling to make sense of what you just saw, what makes more sense: my roommate had a weird guy over who is wearing a covid mask or a psycho killer just killed my roommates and is trying to hide his identity? I can only imagine if she called the cops with this story (weird but not threatening noises, guy walking through house wearing surgical mask), even if they did go out on the call, they would have told her to drink a glass of water, go to bed, and never bother them about this cr*p again because they aren't her mommy and daddy.


+1 the noises that she heard do not indicate murder. Not sure why some people are fixed on the roommate. It seems that Even if she called 911, they wouldn’t survive.


Because it's much easier and more satisfying to twist yourself into a pretzel and blame her, rather than the man who came in and stabbed them all to death.


You can think her behaviour was odd but also not blame her. 2 things can be true.


Exactly. But so many on this forum are not capable of thinking two different things at the same time. No one is blaming the girl. Yes her behavior was weird.


People here are focus on relevant information only, why she called or didn’t is not relevant.
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