Fetterman - Oz Debate — anyone keeping tabs on this?

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

He does not have a stutter. He had a stroke caused by a blood clot. He is also not releasing his medical records. If he wants to be re-categorized as disabled have at it, but there is a big difference between a speech impediment caused by anxiety and one cause by a debilitating medical condition that cut off oxygen to his brain.

+100. I am a liberal dem in PA and voted for Fetterman in the primary, and will in the general, but am very upset at how his campaign has refused to release medical records. They downplayed the severity of the stroke for months. And it will be horrible if because of this many voters flock to Oz, and PA ends up with Mastriano for governor too.

He just released a statement from his doctor, I believe, last week.

A statement from his doctor (who contributed to his campaign, BTW) is not medical records. They have not released a cognitive test. The letter written by his doctor did not include a prognosis for what can be expected in the future. It has very little information about the effects Fetterman is suffering as a result of his stroke.

Given that the stroke was over 5 months ago, it is quite possible that where he is now may be the best it is going to be for him.

"A statement from his doctor (who contributed to his campaign, BTW) is not medical records."

Oh, the irony of this statement. It wasn't that long ago that your carnival barker of a leader presented a doctor's letter (that he dictated) in lieu of medical records. If it was good enough for him, it's good enough for Fetterman!

What another load of crap.

Fetterman is essentially applying for a position. A position of power. He has had a stroke. The effects of that stroke are still very evident 5 months later.
The voters of PA have every right to seek more information about his condition and his prognosis. And, not only the voters in PA - votes made in the Senate affect ALL Americans.
PA residents should also be concerned that their current Lt. Gov. appears to have issues that may affect his ability to perform his current job.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't Republicans feel repelled by Oz's history as a snake-oil salesman?

Oh never mind, lol. I realize that's a silly question given their history of supporting such con men.

It's still bewildering why integrity is not an issue for them. But I guess power is the greatest aphrodisiac?

The choice is between two charletons.

Meh, only one made a ton of money selling snake oil to gullible people.

Which proves his relative skill.

You admire a skilled liar?

Lying, deceit and fraud are skills that GOP admires. That is why they have such a deluge of candidates who practice these skills in open!

Ironic that you would say this after we now know that the Fetterman campaign and the Dems have been lying for the past 5 months.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't Republicans feel repelled by Oz's history as a snake-oil salesman?

Oh never mind, lol. I realize that's a silly question given their history of supporting such con men.

It's still bewildering why integrity is not an issue for them. But I guess power is the greatest aphrodisiac?

The choice is between two charletons.

Meh, only one made a ton of money selling snake oil to gullible people.

Which proves his relative skill.

You admire a skilled liar?

Lying, deceit and fraud are skills that GOP admires. That is why they have such a deluge of candidates who practice these skills in open!

Ironic that you would say this after we now know that the Fetterman campaign and the Dems have been lying for the past 5 months.

How is it ironic to point out the GOP "concerns" about his health are made in bad faith?

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

Multigenerational housing is more common in Appalachia than in other parts of the country. You're just another Republican elitist spouting nonsense and denigrating lifestyles they can't possibly identify with...

I really wish you could understand how absurd your post sounds to normal people. I really do…

What is absurd about that post? I would love to hear a normal person explain exactly what about that is absurd.

The idea that "multigenerational housing in Appalachia" is used in any way to refer to trust fund slacker John Fetterman.

Sorry to hear that you're such an elitist that you simply cannot fathom family structures other than the one you grew up with.

Sorry to hear that you're so out of touch that you actually consider a trust fund kid like John Fetterman to be in any way equal to someone who grew up in Appalachia.

You are literally out of your f**king mind if you think you’re going to convince anyone that Fetterman is somehow more ‘elite’ than Oz who literally has millions and millions of dollars after years of scamming people.

Dude - you have your arguments, remember? Fetterman had a stroke and is still recovering. Go to town on that. But you need to make some GD sense. This isn’t even a close call. Oz is an elite globalist with powerful ties to other nations and a huge amt of money. Fetterman is a dude raised middle class in F**king PA. I happen to be from central PA…i the most elite thing there is a well bred dog or pony. You’ve lost your mind.

+1 Here’s Oz at the Aspen Institute saying certain foods like meat shouldn’t be subsidized, so they’ll cost more. Great plan to fight inflation.

He's not wrong about food subsidies. They're government pork, that is given to industries based on their political power, rather than any actual solid policy basis. Agricultural subsidies are a boondoggle that should be ended.

Farm subsidies are just welfare for farmers we should do without. My in-laws got a $25000 PPP loan for their farm and get more in subsides a year than I make working.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't Republicans feel repelled by Oz's history as a snake-oil salesman?

Oh never mind, lol. I realize that's a silly question given their history of supporting such con men.

It's still bewildering why integrity is not an issue for them. But I guess power is the greatest aphrodisiac?

The choice is between two charletons.

Meh, only one made a ton of money selling snake oil to gullible people.

Which proves his relative skill.

You admire a skilled liar?

Lying, deceit and fraud are skills that GOP admires. That is why they have such a deluge of candidates who practice these skills in open!

Ironic that you would say this after we now know that the Fetterman campaign and the Dems have been lying for the past 5 months.

Some GOP/MAGA said Oz's money making from defrauding is a skill he admires and I responded to it. You are calling your party's admiration for all kind of fradulant ironic? Remember when your party said Trump not paying taxes was smart?

BTW, what is Fetterman is lying? Just because you feel he is, does not mean he is... show the proof. Go ahead!

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Do we think Oprah regrets Dr Phil and Oz.
After all she made them

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LOL.

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Fetterman who?

Didn’t you hear? The Administration led us out of a technical recession and a soft landing looks more and more likely. That’s all anyone will be talking about for the next two weeks on the campaign trail.

Nice try, MAGA. Maybe next time?

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

He does not have a stutter. He had a stroke caused by a blood clot. He is also not releasing his medical records. If he wants to be re-categorized as disabled have at it, but there is a big difference between a speech impediment caused by anxiety and one cause by a debilitating medical condition that cut off oxygen to his brain.

+100. I am a liberal dem in PA and voted for Fetterman in the primary, and will in the general, but am very upset at how his campaign has refused to release medical records. They downplayed the severity of the stroke for months. And it will be horrible if because of this many voters flock to Oz, and PA ends up with Mastriano for governor too.

He just released a statement from his doctor, I believe, last week.

A statement from his doctor (who contributed to his campaign, BTW) is not medical records. They have not released a cognitive test. The letter written by his doctor did not include a prognosis for what can be expected in the future. It has very little information about the effects Fetterman is suffering as a result of his stroke.

Given that the stroke was over 5 months ago, it is quite possible that where he is now may be the best it is going to be for him.

Person, woman, man, camera, TV.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Fetterman also had an elite college education paid by family. Fetterman also glided through life paid for by family money.

Oz at least worked jobs.

Fetterman devoted his time to public service. Oz was out conning the gullibles. It seems to have worked well for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

He does not have a stutter. He had a stroke caused by a blood clot. He is also not releasing his medical records. If he wants to be re-categorized as disabled have at it, but there is a big difference between a speech impediment caused by anxiety and one cause by a debilitating medical condition that cut off oxygen to his brain.

+100. I am a liberal dem in PA and voted for Fetterman in the primary, and will in the general, but am very upset at how his campaign has refused to release medical records. They downplayed the severity of the stroke for months. And it will be horrible if because of this many voters flock to Oz, and PA ends up with Mastriano for governor too.

He just released a statement from his doctor, I believe, last week.

A statement from his doctor (who contributed to his campaign, BTW) is not medical records. They have not released a cognitive test. The letter written by his doctor did not include a prognosis for what can be expected in the future. It has very little information about the effects Fetterman is suffering as a result of his stroke.

Given that the stroke was over 5 months ago, it is quite possible that where he is now may be the best it is going to be for him.

Person, woman, man, camera, TV.

Whataboutism, change the subject, false comparisons, deflection, desperation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

He does not have a stutter. He had a stroke caused by a blood clot. He is also not releasing his medical records. If he wants to be re-categorized as disabled have at it, but there is a big difference between a speech impediment caused by anxiety and one cause by a debilitating medical condition that cut off oxygen to his brain.

+100. I am a liberal dem in PA and voted for Fetterman in the primary, and will in the general, but am very upset at how his campaign has refused to release medical records. They downplayed the severity of the stroke for months. And it will be horrible if because of this many voters flock to Oz, and PA ends up with Mastriano for governor too.

He just released a statement from his doctor, I believe, last week.

A statement from his doctor (who contributed to his campaign, BTW) is not medical records. They have not released a cognitive test. The letter written by his doctor did not include a prognosis for what can be expected in the future. It has very little information about the effects Fetterman is suffering as a result of his stroke.

Given that the stroke was over 5 months ago, it is quite possible that where he is now may be the best it is going to be for him.

"A statement from his doctor (who contributed to his campaign, BTW) is not medical records."

Oh, the irony of this statement. It wasn't that long ago that your carnival barker of a leader presented a doctor's letter (that he dictated) in lieu of medical records. If it was good enough for him, it's good enough for Fetterman!

What another load of crap.

Fetterman is essentially applying for a position. A position of power. He has had a stroke. The effects of that stroke are still very evident 5 months later.
The voters of PA have every right to seek more information about his condition and his prognosis. And, not only the voters in PA - votes made in the Senate affect ALL Americans.
PA residents should also be concerned that their current Lt. Gov. appears to have issues that may affect his ability to perform his current job.

How cute. Are you a time traveler from 2015? You don’t realize that we’re in a different era thanks to Trump, apparently. He could get up there and say whatever gobbledygook he wanted — you don’t remember the insane and nonsensical way he talked? Fetterman looks like a genius, comparatively.

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Anonymous wrote:Fetterman who?

Didn’t you hear? The Administration led us out of a technical recession and a soft landing looks more and more likely. That’s all anyone will be talking about for the next two weeks on the campaign trail.

Nice try, MAGA. Maybe next time?

Nah. Americans are still feeling the pain. The report that came out is one that looks in the rear view mirror..... a time that Americans are feeling the results of high inflation and skyrocketing heating oil prices.
The discussion will continue to be about how to make ends meet.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

He does not have a stutter. He had a stroke caused by a blood clot. He is also not releasing his medical records. If he wants to be re-categorized as disabled have at it, but there is a big difference between a speech impediment caused by anxiety and one cause by a debilitating medical condition that cut off oxygen to his brain.

+100. I am a liberal dem in PA and voted for Fetterman in the primary, and will in the general, but am very upset at how his campaign has refused to release medical records. They downplayed the severity of the stroke for months. And it will be horrible if because of this many voters flock to Oz, and PA ends up with Mastriano for governor too.

He just released a statement from his doctor, I believe, last week.

A statement from his doctor (who contributed to his campaign, BTW) is not medical records. They have not released a cognitive test. The letter written by his doctor did not include a prognosis for what can be expected in the future. It has very little information about the effects Fetterman is suffering as a result of his stroke.

Given that the stroke was over 5 months ago, it is quite possible that where he is now may be the best it is going to be for him.

Person, woman, man, camera, TV.

Whataboutism, change the subject, false comparisons, deflection, desperation.

Yep, that’s exactly what MAGAs are doing.

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Anonymous wrote:Fetterman who?

Didn’t you hear? The Administration led us out of a technical recession and a soft landing looks more and more likely. That’s all anyone will be talking about for the next two weeks on the campaign trail.

Nice try, MAGA. Maybe next time?

Nah. Americans are still feeling the pain. The report that came out is one that looks in the rear view mirror..... a time that Americans are feeling the results of high inflation and skyrocketing heating oil prices.
The discussion will continue to be about how to make ends meet.

And what is the GOP plan for that?