Which universities have gone DOWN in stature over the years?

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Anonymous wrote:If money is no object I'd rather go to USC than Michigan or Northwestern. Or get tens of thousands of merit awards to go to Alabama over Wisconsin, Michigan, Northwestern. Like this young man who turned down the Ivies for a full ride to Alabama to study pre-med. He's in medical school now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3086403/Student-accepted-Ivy-League-school-decides-University-Alabama-instead.html

If anyone was wondering, he’ll graduate next May from Columbia Medical School.

It worked out well for him, but that is quite a risk.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

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Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

It's fine to take the deal, but it will make it harder for your child to get into any graduate program except business/law school. Send them to VT or UMD if they have real ambitions.

What a dumb comment? Have you ever been to a big city in the South? You know, the cities where everyone is moving these days? They are run by frat gods from SEC schools, most of whom could've gone to a school like UMD if they'd wanted. Instead, they chose four years of better weather and hotter coeds while still setting themselves up for post-college success. Get out of your ACELA bubble.

Interesting. How did the families of the AFFLUENT FRAT GODS get their money?

Imagine wanting to live in a city run by "frat gods".

Everyone knows that the South is run by good ole boys who are above the law, which is why it's the most backwards region of the country, but to brag about it as a positive is a bit much.

And no, your upper-middle class NoVA kid is not going to be a "frat god" at Alabama and "run" these growing Southern cities. UMC attending public K-12 with two parents working in the government is not exactly the pedigree of an Alabaman "frat god".

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Anonymous wrote:If money is no object I'd rather go to USC than Michigan or Northwestern. Or get tens of thousands of merit awards to go to Alabama over Wisconsin, Michigan, Northwestern. Like this young man who turned down the Ivies for a full ride to Alabama to study pre-med. He's in medical school now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3086403/Student-accepted-Ivy-League-school-decides-University-Alabama-instead.html

If anyone was wondering, he’ll graduate next May from Columbia Medical School.

It worked out well for him, but that is quite a risk.

No riskier than the thousands of dollars in debt the DM article says he would’ve needed to take on to attend an Ivy.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

It's fine to take the deal, but it will make it harder for your child to get into any graduate program except business/law school. Send them to VT or UMD if they have real ambitions.

What a dumb comment? Have you ever been to a big city in the South? You know, the cities where everyone is moving these days? They are run by frat gods from SEC schools, most of whom could've gone to a school like UMD if they'd wanted. Instead, they chose four years of better weather and hotter coeds while still setting themselves up for post-college success. Get out of your ACELA bubble.

Interesting. How did the families of the AFFLUENT FRAT GODS get their money?

Imagine wanting to live in a city run by "frat gods".

Everyone knows that the South is run by good ole boys who are above the law, which is why it's the most backwards region of the country, but to brag about it as a positive is a bit much.

And no, your upper-middle class NoVA kid is not going to be a "frat god" at Alabama and "run" these growing Southern cities. UMC attending public K-12 with two parents working in the government is not exactly the pedigree of an Alabaman "frat god".

Do we want to talk about contracting scandals in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants to freeze their a*** off in the NE anymore. In the south people have a concept of manners and fashion and don’t dress like frumpy vagrants.

Pretty much. The auto and industrial heyday of the rust belt was 80 years ago. People can't move away from that region fast enough, so why go to college there? Maybe it's interesting for an anthropology or public health major who wants to field study the opioid crisis. idk

Southerners want nothing more than to watch the Yankees rot… it’s a sickness.

You clearly do not know any that lives in the South. If anything, they want rust belt states to get their act together so Yankees will stop moving to the south. They want to keep their reasonable taxes, be able to afford a house, and not sit an hour in traffic to get to work.

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Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell

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Miami of Ohio

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Oberlin
Rider University

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Ithaca college and Syracuse

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants to freeze their a*** off in the NE anymore. In the south people have a concept of manners and fashion and don’t dress like frumpy vagrants.

Pretty much. The auto and industrial heyday of the rust belt was 80 years ago. People can't move away from that region fast enough, so why go to college there? Maybe it's interesting for an anthropology or public health major who wants to field study the opioid crisis. idk

Southerners want nothing more than to watch the Yankees rot… it’s a sickness.

You clearly do not know any that lives in the South. If anything, they want rust belt states to get their act together so Yankees will stop moving to the south. They want to keep their reasonable taxes, be able to afford a house, and not sit an hour in traffic to get to work.

Well said.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants to freeze their a*** off in the NE anymore. In the south people have a concept of manners and fashion and don’t dress like frumpy vagrants.

Pretty much. The auto and industrial heyday of the rust belt was 80 years ago. People can't move away from that region fast enough, so why go to college there? Maybe it's interesting for an anthropology or public health major who wants to field study the opioid crisis. idk

Southerners want nothing more than to watch the Yankees rot… it’s a sickness.

You clearly do not know any that lives in the South. If anything, they want rust belt states to get their act together so Yankees will stop moving to the south. They want to keep their reasonable taxes, be able to afford a house, and not sit an hour in traffic to get to work.

Well said.

Ha ha. Too late.

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Flipping the script

The vast majority of colleges have gone up in stature over the years to include the ivies

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Anonymous wrote:Ithaca college and Syracuse

Ithaca college will forever be the road trip college

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Anonymous wrote:Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell

Yep! Those all went down the day they rejected your kid.

(stop being ridiculous, even anonymously).