Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield Elementary is a smaller school with 2-3 classes per grade level, currently a majority of the kids go to Carson Middle and Oakton HS, a small group of kids go to South Lakes HS.

Skyview makes sense in many ways for the Crossfield kids to attend, it is a MUCH shorter commute.

We will see how it plays out in a few weeks when the "proposed" boundaries are released for Skyview!

Makes perfect geographic sense to send those on northeastern side of Reston Parkway to South Lakes. So much closer than Oakton. And, send those on southwestern side between Reston Parkway/West Ox and 286 to Skyview.

Simple and saves money in transportation costs. Safer, too.

We can see right through you, Fox Mill mama.

Not my post but I am curious, are Fox Mill parents not allowed to advocate for their kids to be moved to Skyview? Are only Crossfield parents allowed to advocate for their kids? I just want to understand the rules here.

Fox Mill is a smaller school, it would have 3 classes if it was not a Japanese immersion school. A decent number of kids transfer in for Japanese. The kids attend Carson for MS and would like to go to HS with their Carson classmates. Skyview is closer to Fox Mill. Many Fox Mill parents prefer AP to IB and would like to move for that reason as well.

It fits all the boxes for moving to Skyview. The only argument I have heard for not moving Fox Mill is that SLHS test scores would suffer. As a parent of a Fox Mill kid, I don’t see it as my kids responsibility to bring up test scores at SLHS and to have to participate in the IB program, which is an awful fit for the school. Skyview is closer, has AP, and will have a larger group of kids that he knows.

I am aware that other people want their kids to attend Skyview and have no problem with them advocating for their school. I don’t see why it is necessary to try and make it sound like people advocating for their school to move are somehow being sneaky.

We could say ALL of the above for Crossfield, too, by the way.

Dp. *Your* kids don't want to go to Oakton, but you do not speak for all of Crossfield.

Not all kids from Fox Mill want to go to Skyview. What is your point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield Elementary is a smaller school with 2-3 classes per grade level, currently a majority of the kids go to Carson Middle and Oakton HS, a small group of kids go to South Lakes HS.

Skyview makes sense in many ways for the Crossfield kids to attend, it is a MUCH shorter commute.

We will see how it plays out in a few weeks when the "proposed" boundaries are released for Skyview!

Makes perfect geographic sense to send those on northeastern side of Reston Parkway to South Lakes. So much closer than Oakton. And, send those on southwestern side between Reston Parkway/West Ox and 286 to Skyview.

Simple and saves money in transportation costs. Safer, too.

We can see right through you, Fox Mill mama.

Not my post but I am curious, are Fox Mill parents not allowed to advocate for their kids to be moved to Skyview? Are only Crossfield parents allowed to advocate for their kids? I just want to understand the rules here.

Fox Mill is a smaller school, it would have 3 classes if it was not a Japanese immersion school. A decent number of kids transfer in for Japanese. The kids attend Carson for MS and would like to go to HS with their Carson classmates. Skyview is closer to Fox Mill. Many Fox Mill parents prefer AP to IB and would like to move for that reason as well.

It fits all the boxes for moving to Skyview. The only argument I have heard for not moving Fox Mill is that SLHS test scores would suffer. As a parent of a Fox Mill kid, I don’t see it as my kids responsibility to bring up test scores at SLHS and to have to participate in the IB program, which is an awful fit for the school. Skyview is closer, has AP, and will have a larger group of kids that he knows.

I am aware that other people want their kids to attend Skyview and have no problem with them advocating for their school. I don’t see why it is necessary to try and make it sound like people advocating for their school to move are somehow being sneaky.

We could say ALL of the above for Crossfield, too, by the way.

Dp. *Your* kids don't want to go to Oakton, but you do not speak for all of Crossfield.

DP. Nor do you, but I bet you sure do claim to represent the Crossfield community when lobbying to the school board!

I know of at least one VERY VOCAL Crossfield family that has a child who asked to opt in to Skyview but the parents said no. So in many instances it's literally JUST the parents, not the kids, that want to remain at Oakton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield Elementary is a smaller school with 2-3 classes per grade level, currently a majority of the kids go to Carson Middle and Oakton HS, a small group of kids go to South Lakes HS.

Skyview makes sense in many ways for the Crossfield kids to attend, it is a MUCH shorter commute.

We will see how it plays out in a few weeks when the "proposed" boundaries are released for Skyview!

Makes perfect geographic sense to send those on northeastern side of Reston Parkway to South Lakes. So much closer than Oakton. And, send those on southwestern side between Reston Parkway/West Ox and 286 to Skyview.

Simple and saves money in transportation costs. Safer, too.

We can see right through you, Fox Mill mama.

Not my post but I am curious, are Fox Mill parents not allowed to advocate for their kids to be moved to Skyview? Are only Crossfield parents allowed to advocate for their kids? I just want to understand the rules here.

Fox Mill is a smaller school, it would have 3 classes if it was not a Japanese immersion school. A decent number of kids transfer in for Japanese. The kids attend Carson for MS and would like to go to HS with their Carson classmates. Skyview is closer to Fox Mill. Many Fox Mill parents prefer AP to IB and would like to move for that reason as well.

It fits all the boxes for moving to Skyview. The only argument I have heard for not moving Fox Mill is that SLHS test scores would suffer. As a parent of a Fox Mill kid, I don’t see it as my kids responsibility to bring up test scores at SLHS and to have to participate in the IB program, which is an awful fit for the school. Skyview is closer, has AP, and will have a larger group of kids that he knows.

I am aware that other people want their kids to attend Skyview and have no problem with them advocating for their school. I don’t see why it is necessary to try and make it sound like people advocating for their school to move are somehow being sneaky.

We could say ALL of the above for Crossfield, too, by the way.

Dp. *Your* kids don't want to go to Oakton, but you do not speak for all of Crossfield.

DP. Nor do you, but I bet you sure do claim to represent the Crossfield community when lobbying to the school board!

I know of at least one VERY VOCAL Crossfield family that has a child who asked to opt in to Skyview but the parents said no. So in many instances it's literally JUST the parents, not the kids, that want to remain at Oakton.

One family does not mean “many instances.” Skyview will be a niche school until it has set boundaries, a sizable enrollment, and full academic and extra-curricular programs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield Elementary is a smaller school with 2-3 classes per grade level, currently a majority of the kids go to Carson Middle and Oakton HS, a small group of kids go to South Lakes HS.

Skyview makes sense in many ways for the Crossfield kids to attend, it is a MUCH shorter commute.

We will see how it plays out in a few weeks when the "proposed" boundaries are released for Skyview!

Makes perfect geographic sense to send those on northeastern side of Reston Parkway to South Lakes. So much closer than Oakton. And, send those on southwestern side between Reston Parkway/West Ox and 286 to Skyview.

Simple and saves money in transportation costs. Safer, too.

We can see right through you, Fox Mill mama.

Not my post but I am curious, are Fox Mill parents not allowed to advocate for their kids to be moved to Skyview? Are only Crossfield parents allowed to advocate for their kids? I just want to understand the rules here.

Fox Mill is a smaller school, it would have 3 classes if it was not a Japanese immersion school. A decent number of kids transfer in for Japanese. The kids attend Carson for MS and would like to go to HS with their Carson classmates. Skyview is closer to Fox Mill. Many Fox Mill parents prefer AP to IB and would like to move for that reason as well.

It fits all the boxes for moving to Skyview. The only argument I have heard for not moving Fox Mill is that SLHS test scores would suffer. As a parent of a Fox Mill kid, I don’t see it as my kids responsibility to bring up test scores at SLHS and to have to participate in the IB program, which is an awful fit for the school. Skyview is closer, has AP, and will have a larger group of kids that he knows.

I am aware that other people want their kids to attend Skyview and have no problem with them advocating for their school. I don’t see why it is necessary to try and make it sound like people advocating for their school to move are somehow being sneaky.

We could say ALL of the above for Crossfield, too, by the way.

Dp. *Your* kids don't want to go to Oakton, but you do not speak for all of Crossfield.

DP. Nor do you, but I bet you sure do claim to represent the Crossfield community when lobbying to the school board!

I know of at least one VERY VOCAL Crossfield family that has a child who asked to opt in to Skyview but the parents said no. So in many instances it's literally JUST the parents, not the kids, that want to remain at Oakton.

One family does not mean “many instances.” Skyview will be a niche school until it has set boundaries, a sizable enrollment, and full academic and extra-curricular programs.

You are missing the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield Elementary is a smaller school with 2-3 classes per grade level, currently a majority of the kids go to Carson Middle and Oakton HS, a small group of kids go to South Lakes HS.

Skyview makes sense in many ways for the Crossfield kids to attend, it is a MUCH shorter commute.

We will see how it plays out in a few weeks when the "proposed" boundaries are released for Skyview!

Makes perfect geographic sense to send those on northeastern side of Reston Parkway to South Lakes. So much closer than Oakton. And, send those on southwestern side between Reston Parkway/West Ox and 286 to Skyview.

Simple and saves money in transportation costs. Safer, too.

We can see right through you, Fox Mill mama.

Not my post but I am curious, are Fox Mill parents not allowed to advocate for their kids to be moved to Skyview? Are only Crossfield parents allowed to advocate for their kids? I just want to understand the rules here.

Fox Mill is a smaller school, it would have 3 classes if it was not a Japanese immersion school. A decent number of kids transfer in for Japanese. The kids attend Carson for MS and would like to go to HS with their Carson classmates. Skyview is closer to Fox Mill. Many Fox Mill parents prefer AP to IB and would like to move for that reason as well.

It fits all the boxes for moving to Skyview. The only argument I have heard for not moving Fox Mill is that SLHS test scores would suffer. As a parent of a Fox Mill kid, I don’t see it as my kids responsibility to bring up test scores at SLHS and to have to participate in the IB program, which is an awful fit for the school. Skyview is closer, has AP, and will have a larger group of kids that he knows.

I am aware that other people want their kids to attend Skyview and have no problem with them advocating for their school. I don’t see why it is necessary to try and make it sound like people advocating for their school to move are somehow being sneaky.

We could say ALL of the above for Crossfield, too, by the way.

Dp. *Your* kids don't want to go to Oakton, but you do not speak for all of Crossfield.

DP. Nor do you, but I bet you sure do claim to represent the Crossfield community when lobbying to the school board!

I know of at least one VERY VOCAL Crossfield family that has a child who asked to opt in to Skyview but the parents said no. So in many instances it's literally JUST the parents, not the kids, that want to remain at Oakton.

One family does not mean “many instances.” Skyview will be a niche school until it has set boundaries, a sizable enrollment, and full academic and extra-curricular programs.

You are missing the point.

You are pushing a fake narrative.

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I don't think that there is an ES where there is a majority feel on moving to Skyview or staying at the base school. I think there are parents who feel strongly one way or the other and a lot of other parents who don't care and just want them to make the choice and set the boundaries.

I don't think there is a majority either way at Fox Mill or Crossfield and people who are advocating one way or the other are stating their opions. I know I don't speak for all of Fox Mill and I don't think I have presented it that way. I think more people who want to move from Fox Mill have posted here and more people who want to stay at Oakton from Crossfield ahve posted here. I think there are parents who want Crossfield to move who have posted here, with one particularly aggressive poster dominating that position although there are clearly others that agree with wanting to move.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think that there is an ES where there is a majority feel on moving to Skyview or staying at the base school. I think there are parents who feel strongly one way or the other and a lot of other parents who don't care and just want them to make the choice and set the boundaries.

I don't think there is a majority either way at Fox Mill or Crossfield and people who are advocating one way or the other are stating their opions. I know I don't speak for all of Fox Mill and I don't think I have presented it that way. I think more people who want to move from Fox Mill have posted here and more people who want to stay at Oakton from Crossfield ahve posted here. I think there are parents who want Crossfield to move who have posted here, with one particularly aggressive poster dominating that position although there are clearly others that agree with wanting to move.

You're forgetting the remaining South Lakes parents who want Fox Mill to stay to keep the scores and school rating up. And the remaining Oakton parents who would be happy to see Crossfield moved so Oakton isn't overcrowded again in 5 years once all the new housing developments come online. And those of us who just want the most bus routes shortened to save FCPS time and money on transportation.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think that there is an ES where there is a majority feel on moving to Skyview or staying at the base school. I think there are parents who feel strongly one way or the other and a lot of other parents who don't care and just want them to make the choice and set the boundaries.

I don't think there is a majority either way at Fox Mill or Crossfield and people who are advocating one way or the other are stating their opions. I know I don't speak for all of Fox Mill and I don't think I have presented it that way. I think more people who want to move from Fox Mill have posted here and more people who want to stay at Oakton from Crossfield ahve posted here. I think there are parents who want Crossfield to move who have posted here, with one particularly aggressive poster dominating that position although there are clearly others that agree with wanting to move.

You're forgetting the remaining South Lakes parents who want Fox Mill to stay to keep the scores and school rating up. And the remaining Oakton parents who would be happy to see Crossfield moved so Oakton isn't overcrowded again in 5 years once all the new housing developments come online. And those of us who just want the most bus routes shortened to save FCPS time and money on transportation.

PP wasn’t forgetting anything. She was just accurately summarizing what seem to be the sentiments expressed most frequently among those who may be directly affected by the Skyview boundary adjustments.

We just went through a county-wide boundary study where FCPS deferred to the loudest parents and paid scant attention to shortening bus routes. You’d have to think they’ve turned a new page to believe that, after ignoring the long Forestville commutes to Langley, they would now prioritize ending the shorter Crossfield commutes to Oakton when there’s a sizable group of people who want to remain there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP wasn’t forgetting anything...

Omitting is the better word. Regardless, the point still stands that there are more people with opinions on the matter than just the vocal ones discussed here. Dismiss them if you want, but someone with an agenda you are ignoring may very well have more sway than all the hand-wringing people on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think that there is an ES where there is a majority feel on moving to Skyview or staying at the base school. I think there are parents who feel strongly one way or the other and a lot of other parents who don't care and just want them to make the choice and set the boundaries.

I don't think there is a majority either way at Fox Mill or Crossfield and people who are advocating one way or the other are stating their opions. I know I don't speak for all of Fox Mill and I don't think I have presented it that way. I think more people who want to move from Fox Mill have posted here and more people who want to stay at Oakton from Crossfield ahve posted here. I think there are parents who want Crossfield to move who have posted here, with one particularly aggressive poster dominating that position although there are clearly others that agree with wanting to move.

You're forgetting the remaining South Lakes parents who want Fox Mill to stay to keep the scores and school rating up. And the remaining Oakton parents who would be happy to see Crossfield moved so Oakton isn't overcrowded again in 5 years once all the new housing developments come online. And those of us who just want the most bus routes shortened to save FCPS time and money on transportation.

PP wasn’t forgetting anything. She was just accurately summarizing what seem to be the sentiments expressed most frequently among those who may be directly affected by the Skyview boundary adjustments.

We just went through a county-wide boundary study where FCPS deferred to the loudest parents and paid scant attention to shortening bus routes. You’d have to think they’ve turned a new page to believe that, after ignoring the long Forestville commutes to Langley, they would now prioritize ending the shorter Crossfield commutes to Oakton when there’s a sizable group of people who want to remain there.

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[Anonymous]

Guys, this is getting utterly out of hand.

I know all of you want what's best for your kids, but some of you are looking at this particular situation of a new school opening where you want what's best for existing high schools and Skyview. Rather than worrying so much about sports and test scores, think ahead and treat this new high school like a gift rather than a cure handed down to you by Queen Grimhilde.

We need less pontificating via biases, and more respect, courtesy, open mindedness, and also to look at what makes the best sense instead of looking at what you want. I know this is a contentious process like many other boundary changes conducted by this school district, but 5-10years down the line when Skyview is more established, all of you will be thankful this high school opened.

20171 has been divided for years and this gift of a new high school we've been given will unify us once and for all.

Crossfield is not Oakton, it is Herndon!

Fox Mill is not Reston, it is Herndon!

Oak Hill is not Chantilly, it is Herndon!

Floris, McNair, and Coates, all Herndon!

So suppress your privelage and welcome all of 20171 in open arms!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this is getting utterly out of hand.

I know all of you want what's best for your kids, but some of you are looking at this particular situation of a new school opening where you want what's best for existing high schools and Skyview. Rather than worrying so much about sports and test scores, think ahead and treat this new high school like a gift rather than a cure handed down to you by Queen Grimhilde.

We need less pontificating via biases, and more respect, courtesy, open mindedness, and also to look at what makes the best sense instead of looking at what you want. I know this is a contentious process like many other boundary changes conducted by this school district, but 5-10years down the line when Skyview is more established, all of you will be thankful this high school opened.

20171 has been divided for years and this gift of a new high school we've been given will unify us once and for all.

Crossfield is not Oakton, it is Herndon!

Fox Mill is not Reston, it is Herndon!

Oak Hill is not Chantilly, it is Herndon!

Floris, McNair, and Coates, all Herndon!

So suppress your privelage and welcome all of 20171 in open arms!

There won't be space at Skyview any time soon for six ES feeders, and it would be nuts to spend more money on top of the money already being to spent to expand (and not just retrofit Skyview) to handle six feeders.

Of course, if all these schools are truly "Herndon," then taking advantage of some of the excess capacity at Herndon could be considered.

[Anonymous]

For perspective-

The primary ZIP codes for Herndon, Virginia, are 20170, 20171 (goes by Oak Hill as well) , and 20172 (goes by Dulles as well). The town is located in Fairfax County and is part of the 703 and 571 area codes. ZIP code 20170 covers the central and downtown area, while 20171 and 20172 cover adjacent residential and commercial areas.

Skyview HS is located in 20171.

Herndon HS is located in 20170

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For perspective-

The primary ZIP codes for Herndon, Virginia, are 20170, 20171 (goes by Oak Hill as well) , and 20172 (goes by Dulles as well). The town is located in Fairfax County and is part of the 703 and 571 area codes. ZIP code 20170 covers the central and downtown area, while 20171 and 20172 cover adjacent residential and commercial areas.

Skyview HS is located in 20171.

Herndon HS is located in 20170

Who cares? It's not like every zip code has its own high school. High schools serve kids from multiple zip codes and kids from a single zip code regularly are zoned for multiple schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this is getting utterly out of hand.

I know all of you want what's best for your kids, but some of you are looking at this particular situation of a new school opening where you want what's best for existing high schools and Skyview. Rather than worrying so much about sports and test scores, think ahead and treat this new high school like a gift rather than a cure handed down to you by Queen Grimhilde.

We need less pontificating via biases, and more respect, courtesy, open mindedness, and also to look at what makes the best sense instead of looking at what you want. I know this is a contentious process like many other boundary changes conducted by this school district, but 5-10years down the line when Skyview is more established, all of you will be thankful this high school opened.

20171 has been divided for years and this gift of a new high school we've been given will unify us once and for all.

Crossfield is not Oakton, it is Herndon!

Fox Mill is not Reston, it is Herndon!

Oak Hill is not Chantilly, it is Herndon!

Floris, McNair, and Coates, all Herndon!

So suppress your privelage and welcome all of 20171 in open arms!

The Post Office assigns postal codes and decides the name. Therese often do not line up with the U.S. census definition of a particular location. They do it for convenience of their routes. For example, there are postal codes that say Arlington, when the address is located in Fairfax County and vice versa. There are even addresses with postal codes in different states than where the actual address is located. I wouldn’t make my argument based on postal codes.