Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

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Anonymous wrote:Funny, the part of the testimony Kavanaugh is apologizing (but not apologizing) for were his prepared remarks. I mean, I guess he thinks we are that stupid?

Huh? “I said some things I shouldn’t have...”

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I think the vote will be moved to Sunday now. They can't afford to lose even one vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rape in private, boys, and you'll be just fine.

Even though the number of false accusations by women is microscopic compared to the number of sexual assaults committed by men, Kavanaugh enthusiasts are exclusively focused on the very small problem and give no indication of giving a shit about the very big problem.

Look at the number of posts we've seen that claim there is "no corroboration." And, let's be clear, they don't say "Ford's claim has not been corroborated to my satisfaction." They are emphatic that it's *no* corroboration.

"The testimony of a witness is said to be corroborated when it is shown to correspond with the representation of some other witnesses, or to comport with some facts otherwise known or established."

Corroborating evidence includes:
- Ford’s description of Kavanaugh’s drinking buddies,

- Kavanaugh’s July 1 calendar entry that describes his plans to go to “Timmy’s for skis with Judge, Tom, P.J. Bernie and … Squi,”

-Mark Judge’s memoir outlining his and “Bart O’Kavanaugh’s” drinking habits,

-Kavanaugh’s Beach Week letter discussing “prolific pukers.” There is a slew of other evidence corroborating Ford’s claims. (Seth Abramson wrote a detailed Twitter thread about all the corroborating evidence; it is worth reading.)

-The fact that Brett’s claims that he was a virgin who never drank to excess are belied by his own statements about how much he likes beer, and the statements of his high school and college pals that he was frequently drunk and bragged about his sexual prowess. Evidence that lessens Kavanaugh’s credibility and enhances Ford’s credibility is corroborating evidence.

There is corroboration. Repeatedly and falsely claiming that there is none (rather than arguing that the corroboration is insufficiently convincing) will serve to discourage any woman who doesn't get raped or sexually harassed in front of witnesses who are friendly to her.

Sigh. Beautifully written, but nobody wants to dispassionate examen the facts we have. We have become a nation where we don't even know how to look for the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:The shit men get away with. If I lost my cool during a job interview and then crawled back invoking my position as mom, daughter, wife...forget it.

I actually had a critical job interview once while my child was fighting for his life in the ICU. I cried in the bathroom before and after, away from view, as women have been trained to do for centuries. Suck it up, Brett.

Has anyone ever accused you of being a gang rapist at a job interview?

You must be missing 99% of your neurons. Your child in critical condition in the ICU is may more stressful than any sexual assault allegation.

To first PP, I hope your child recovered as painlessly as possible and that you got the job. I feel for you!

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Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post EDITORIAL BOARD - which is CONSERVATIVE and has not opposed a Supreme Court nominee since Bork (PRO Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, etc.) - comes out AGAINST JUSTICE BRETT https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/vote-no-on-kavanaugh/2018/10/04/23495e3a-c7f3-11e8-b1ed-1d2d65b86d0c_story.html?utm_term=.ee08885fa601

Conservative? What planet do you live on?

He is completely unaware and oblivious that no one wants him on that Court. He will be an outcast. The other Justices will not respect him, not NG or even CT. I could not go into work every day where I am not respected.

He’s pals with Gorsuch. They have known each other for years. The others will not like him one bit and they will let it show.

Per friend with personal knowledge, they're not pals. They went to high school together and ended up clerking for the Court at the same time and then in the Bush administration at the same time, but they were not friends. Not for lack of effort on Kavanaugh's part, but Gorsuch has always thought Kavanaugh was a bit of a buffoon. That's not who Gorsuch will want to tie himself to on the Court.

NG would not damage his credibility by associating, let alone befriending Kavanaugh.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny, the part of the testimony Kavanaugh is apologizing (but not apologizing) for were his prepared remarks. I mean, I guess he thinks we are that stupid?

Can you imagine a woman saying, in the context of a contentious Senate hearing, “I am sorry I got emotional and lost my temper and said things I shouldn’t have. I was thinking about my children, my husband, and my parents”?

Also, his editorial doesn’t say he didn’t mean what he said. Just that he shouldn’t have said what he did. Most of the most partisan and outrageous conspiracy theorizing was in his prepared remarks!

Has anyone ever accused you of leading a rape gang at a job interview? Have actions of an interviewer ever caused a national uproar that resulted in death and rape threats against your children and spouse? No? Then STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:I never saw Obama lose his temper like that. And we all know the kind of trash that was thrown at him.

Yes, I remember the time the press ran article after article about him being a gang rapist and the Senate dragged him in for hearings and hours of testimony about sexually assaulting and gang raping women at high school parties. Obama really kept his cool in the face of all that.

It doesn’t matter. None of it matters. Kavanaugh is going to be a Supreme. And if you think he is going to forget what the rabid liberals put him and his family through you are about to get a 40 year lesson in payback.

The Republicans represent a rabid, dying white electorate and will be replaced on the Hill by Democrats who will either impeach Kavanaugh or expand and pack the Supreme Court to dilute his influence. And given Kavanaugh’s boozy lifestyle he’ll be lucky to last another 20 years before he has a heart attack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everything you need to know about Brett Kavanaugh in this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsuutbTgeuM

You all probably know this is him rebuffing a Parkland parent's efforts to shake his hand. The way he does it shows what type of person he is - great with people in his circle or people he needs in his circle, and the rest can FOAD.

That's why he can treat Dem senators the way he did.
Why he can go after outskirts girls the way he did.
Why he can get be a mean drunk but a kind friend.
& Etc.

Justice Kavanaugh will be a protector of His Kind, and those who happen to benefit from same.
Woe to the rest of us.
Would rather have nine Thomases.

OMG. Are you going back to handshake-gate?
You have got to be kidding me. You really hate this man.
You did provide a good clip of this encounter though. Watch as Guttenberg quickly approaches him. And, look behind Guttenberg at how quickly security gets there. And, notice that Kavanaugh is taking his cues from security. Don’t forget that his testimony had been interrupted repeatedly with protesters.
This is old news, PP.

Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has a simple explanation for why he didn’t shake the hand of a Parkland school shooting victim’s father at last week’s Senate confirmation hearing.
He didn’t recognize him.

Kavanaugh’s explanation for the encounter with Fred Guttenberg was among a 263-page response to written questions from senators on a range of issues including abortion, executive power, and his personal finances.

Kavanaugh wrote that he assumed the man who approached him “and touched my arm” during a break at the Senate Judiciary Committee proceedings had been one of the many protesters in the hearing room.

Guttenberg’s 14-year-old daughter, Jaime, was among 17 people killed in the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High on February 14th.

“It had been a chaotic morning,” Kavanaugh wrote. “I unfortunately did not realize that the man was the father of a shooting victim from Parkland, Florida. Mr. Guttenberg has suffered an incalculable loss. If I had known who he was, I would have shaken his hand, talked to him, and expressed my sympathy. And I would have listened to him.”

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/09/13/kavanaugh-explains-why-he-didnt-shake-hands-with-parkland-dad-fred-guttenberg/

[Anonymous]

Catching up on the day just now. So it's a given that he's going to be confirmed? Reading the last page it seems like folks are resigned to the outcome

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Kavanaugh's yale classmates certainly don't seem to care for him. There's Chad Ludington. And the Princeton religion professor who was suitemates with him: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/will-the-fbi-ignore-testimonies-from-kavanaughs-former-classmates.

And Jamie Roche, his roommate:

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Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post EDITORIAL BOARD - which is CONSERVATIVE and has not opposed a Supreme Court nominee since Bork (PRO Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, etc.) - comes out AGAINST JUSTICE BRETT https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/vote-no-on-kavanaugh/2018/10/04/23495e3a-c7f3-11e8-b1ed-1d2d65b86d0c_story.html?utm_term=.ee08885fa601

Conservative? What planet do you live on?

+1 Ha ha ha!!!

OP is correct:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hiatt

Um, no. #1:He is the editorial page editor, not the entirety of the editorial board, and NOT conservative. #2: Name one Republican they’ve endorsed for a high office recently.

Um like OP said, they have endorsed every SCOTUS nominee after Bork, including Alito, Clarence Thomas, Roberts, Gorsuch. That's.Not.Liberal.

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So, the dude who wanted to ask Chelsea Clinton's dad about where he ejaculated -- not for any legal purpose, but just to cause pain -- is now defending his lack of composure because he was thinking of his kids? That's awfully rich.

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Anonymous wrote:I never saw Obama lose his temper like that. And we all know the kind of trash that was thrown at him.

Yes, I remember the time the press ran article after article about him being a gang rapist and the Senate dragged him in for hearings and hours of testimony about sexually assaulting and gang raping women at high school parties. Obama really kept his cool in the face of all that.

It doesn’t matter. None of it matters. Kavanaugh is going to be a Supreme. And if you think he is going to forget what the rabid liberals put him and his family through you are about to get a 40 year lesson in payback.

The Republicans represent a rabid, dying white electorate and will be replaced on the Hill by Democrats who will either impeach Kavanaugh or expand and pack the Supreme Court to dilute his influence. And given Kavanaugh’s boozy lifestyle he’ll be lucky to last another 20 years before he has a heart attack.

Sweet dreams, honey child.

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Anonymous wrote:I never saw Obama lose his temper like that. And we all know the kind of trash that was thrown at him.

Yep. It’s almost like Obama has a calm, cool temperment perfect for the Supreme Court. But nooooo we get Turd Ferguson.

I pray to god that the Democratic president nominates Obama to the court in 2021.

Someone who has never practiced law, argued a case, or served as a judge?

The Constitution actually does not require that a Supreme Court Justice be any of those things- try reading it, it’s fun!

Name 5 supremes who have never practiced law, argued a case, or served as a judge.

We’ll wait...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Catching up on the day just now. So it's a given that he's going to be confirmed? Reading the last page it seems like folks are resigned to the outcome

I don't think they have the votes (although I may be wrong). They aren't even going to be able to vote on Saturday. It'll be pushed back to Sunday or Monday now.