Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Edison.

While coaches and parents all across the county advocated for forfeiting, the Edison team took the field to contest their playoff berth on the gridiron....and not a courtroom or strong-armed bureaucratic office.

Edison just scored first and walked to the buses leaving as winners

The Edison kids are truly the real winners. It's amazing how this SB and Reid sent them into this knowing it would be a slaughter. If only Edison had hired Overton instead and he had brought them all those players.

Disagree. This is an unfair situation for the adults to put them into. Hopefully no one gets injured.

OK yeah, I forgot about that aspect. A team stacked with big, huge recruited players when most teams only have 1 or 2 big kids. Reid, did you think about this? The optics look bad for Reid no matter what happens here. I think she's not going to last.

The Hayfield players are not big, huge, monsters. In fact, they are quite average. You all have made them into something nefarious, fearful, and detestable.

These so called adults talking about cheating sure have no problem lying. My daughter is an Edison soccer player and she has friends at Hayfield so while we support Edison we don't hate Hayfield. The lies on here are crazy. The football players are not large at all.

My son is a Lake Braddock Football player and has no hate against "new" Hayfield players. To be honest, lots of the kids in the Football team follow the new Hayfield players on social media since the summer.
My son says they are very good. Not huge at all, but very talented and athletic.

People here are really blowing things out of proportion and many don't even have kids in the Football program. LOL.

Wrong. My son plays on different Region team. Entire team thinks it's crap that 20 kids transferred into the county to produce this super team - in public school. And has been main topic of conversation for weeks. They're used to seeing/hearing about things like that with private schools - but they're all questioning why this was allowed for Hayfield. Kids know. Don't act like everyone's OK with this nonsense.

Actually your WRONG

Comprehend what she said, HER son which doesn’t include YOUR son or even his friends or teammates HERS not YOURS. She speaks for her kid and you speak for your kid

Quote was "People here are really blowing things out of proportion and many don't even have kids in the Football program." Both claims are objectively wrong.

And "your" is a possessive adjective that indicates ownership. "you're" is a contraction of you are. You're welcome.

My degree says it doesn’t matter anymore, either way you understood what I said and what I meant

It’s definitely not an English degree. Though, just about anyone can get a “degree” in anything now. Degrees are not a measure of intelligence nor is saying that cheating doesn’t matter anymore. Silly Hayfield Boosters.

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Anonymous wrote:Edison football team is trash. It was trashed by Langley HS 43-6 back in September.

I would love to see the Hayfield coach get hired by Langley HS, and have those kids transferred to Langley HS. If that happens, Langley will go undefeated and win the state championship.

I think the QB is ex-DeMatha, so would be shorter commute for at least him. Also, lots of big houses in Great Falls, would be easy to put them up in style. Their lives would improve dramatically.

Yorktown head coach just retired after 55 years of coaching. So they’re searching for a coach too.

Yorktown and Langley are crazy long commutes from Stafford and PWC. Please think of the children!

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

I thought VHSL found Hayfield had rostered pre-9th graders, AKA middle schoolers. AFAIK middle schoolers (8th maybe?) are allowed on high school teams per VHSL because it happens in Arlington and Alexandria. Does FCPS allow it or no?

To my knowledge fcps has never allowed it

I know it happens at Alex city didn’t know Arlington did as well

Robinson alum and in the late 90s, I do not recall 8th graders participating in high school sports but I mean I could be wrong too

I believe as part of their investigation of the cheaters, VHSL found that a large number of kids who did not attend Hayfield feeder middle schools mysteriously popped up at Hayfield as freshmen. These were PME players and also showed up on the Varsity roster as Freshmen players on Varsity (incredibly rare in FCPS to have freshmen playing on Varsity).

You know the feeder school for hayfield high school is literally the middle school located in the same building right?

Maybe a couple Twain kids end up there and maybe a couple soco middle kids end up there and maybe maybe a very small amount of key kids go to hayfield

But by and large hayfield feeds into hayfield (the only other kids would be coming from the private middle schools)

Not saying you’re wrong just want to point out what the middle to high pipeline is for hayfield

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

I thought VHSL found Hayfield had rostered pre-9th graders, AKA middle schoolers. AFAIK middle schoolers (8th maybe?) are allowed on high school teams per VHSL because it happens in Arlington and Alexandria. Does FCPS allow it or no?

To my knowledge fcps has never allowed it

I know it happens at Alex city didn’t know Arlington did as well

Robinson alum and in the late 90s, I do not recall 8th graders participating in high school sports but I mean I could be wrong too

I believe as part of their investigation of the cheaters, VHSL found that a large number of kids who did not attend Hayfield feeder middle schools mysteriously popped up at Hayfield as freshmen. These were PME players and also showed up on the Varsity roster as Freshmen players on Varsity (incredibly rare in FCPS to have freshmen playing on Varsity).

Not as rare as you think, but at same time if your wasn’t or didn’t do it, then you can’t speak on it. It’s dbl edged if you ask me because either your kid is that good or your team that bad, that he’s needed

AT FCPS public high schools, having more than one freshman on Varsity is incredibly rare.

Depends on if the team is terrible or not. My daughter and 2 other freshman made Varsity on a team their freshman year because the team was so bad. Had it been a stacked team she would have been placed on JV.

For football? No. Other sports, i have no idea about.

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

I thought VHSL found Hayfield had rostered pre-9th graders, AKA middle schoolers. AFAIK middle schoolers (8th maybe?) are allowed on high school teams per VHSL because it happens in Arlington and Alexandria. Does FCPS allow it or no?

To my knowledge fcps has never allowed it

I know it happens at Alex city didn’t know Arlington did as well

Robinson alum and in the late 90s, I do not recall 8th graders participating in high school sports but I mean I could be wrong too

I believe as part of their investigation of the cheaters, VHSL found that a large number of kids who did not attend Hayfield feeder middle schools mysteriously popped up at Hayfield as freshmen. These were PME players and also showed up on the Varsity roster as Freshmen players on Varsity (incredibly rare in FCPS to have freshmen playing on Varsity).

You know the feeder school for hayfield high school is literally the middle school located in the same building right?

Maybe a couple Twain kids end up there and maybe a couple soco middle kids end up there and maybe maybe a very small amount of key kids go to hayfield

But by and large hayfield feeds into hayfield (the only other kids would be coming from the private middle schools)

Not saying you’re wrong just want to point out what the middle to high pipeline is for hayfield

I have no idea what other middle schools field to Hayfield besides the Hayfield middle school grades.

This was a factual finding made by VHSL. Kids coming in as freshman from other middle schools that aren't assigned to Hayfield.

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

I thought VHSL found Hayfield had rostered pre-9th graders, AKA middle schoolers. AFAIK middle schoolers (8th maybe?) are allowed on high school teams per VHSL because it happens in Arlington and Alexandria. Does FCPS allow it or no?

To my knowledge fcps has never allowed it

I know it happens at Alex city didn’t know Arlington did as well

Robinson alum and in the late 90s, I do not recall 8th graders participating in high school sports but I mean I could be wrong too

I believe as part of their investigation of the cheaters, VHSL found that a large number of kids who did not attend Hayfield feeder middle schools mysteriously popped up at Hayfield as freshmen. These were PME players and also showed up on the Varsity roster as Freshmen players on Varsity (incredibly rare in FCPS to have freshmen playing on Varsity).

Not as rare as you think, but at same time if your wasn’t or didn’t do it, then you can’t speak on it. It’s dbl edged if you ask me because either your kid is that good or your team that bad, that he’s needed

AT FCPS public high schools, having more than one freshman on Varsity is incredibly rare.

Depends on if the team is terrible or not. My daughter and 2 other freshman made Varsity on a team their freshman year because the team was so bad. Had it been a stacked team she would have been placed on JV.

It is definitely more common in sports that aren’t football and basketball.

I’m not going to say freshmen don’t play varsity because I believe thats incorrect. With football, it’s about size in general. The standard junior senior on any HS football team is physically bigger, stronger, and possibly faster than an incoming 9th grader. The freshmen team exists to protect the kids from getting seriously injured. I mean they don’t hit like back in the day but looking at some rising 9th graders, getting hit by a senior full throttle would knock most of them right out.

For basketball, it’s height, strength, vision, etc. a superstar freshmen can make a starting varsity hs team though. But since the height especially isn’t there yet, typically freshmen or JV is the right place so they can grow and develop.

But again I support that freshmen can make a varsity squad in most sports based on talent and if the team is real bad

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The point is the pay to play PME kids were all placed straight up on Varsity, even if some of them never played, as a quid pro quo for paying PME for training, I assume.

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

I thought VHSL found Hayfield had rostered pre-9th graders, AKA middle schoolers. AFAIK middle schoolers (8th maybe?) are allowed on high school teams per VHSL because it happens in Arlington and Alexandria. Does FCPS allow it or no?

To my knowledge fcps has never allowed it

I know it happens at Alex city didn’t know Arlington did as well

Robinson alum and in the late 90s, I do not recall 8th graders participating in high school sports but I mean I could be wrong too

I believe as part of their investigation of the cheaters, VHSL found that a large number of kids who did not attend Hayfield feeder middle schools mysteriously popped up at Hayfield as freshmen. These were PME players and also showed up on the Varsity roster as Freshmen players on Varsity (incredibly rare in FCPS to have freshmen playing on Varsity).

Not as rare as you think, but at same time if your wasn’t or didn’t do it, then you can’t speak on it. It’s dbl edged if you ask me because either your kid is that good or your team that bad, that he’s needed

AT FCPS public high schools, having more than one freshman on Varsity is incredibly rare.

So again, you proved my point if this is the case as I’ve not fully studied the roster composition. Either those freshman are really good, or either the upper classmen are not that good

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Anonymous wrote:Edison football team is trash. It was trashed by Langley HS 43-6 back in September.

I would love to see the Hayfield coach get hired by Langley HS, and have those kids transferred to Langley HS. If that happens, Langley will go undefeated and win the state championship.

They beat Hayfield last year. The actual, real Hayfield team.

And lost the prior two years before that, soooooo

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

I thought VHSL found Hayfield had rostered pre-9th graders, AKA middle schoolers. AFAIK middle schoolers (8th maybe?) are allowed on high school teams per VHSL because it happens in Arlington and Alexandria. Does FCPS allow it or no?

To my knowledge fcps has never allowed it

I know it happens at Alex city didn’t know Arlington did as well

Robinson alum and in the late 90s, I do not recall 8th graders participating in high school sports but I mean I could be wrong too

I believe as part of their investigation of the cheaters, VHSL found that a large number of kids who did not attend Hayfield feeder middle schools mysteriously popped up at Hayfield as freshmen. These were PME players and also showed up on the Varsity roster as Freshmen players on Varsity (incredibly rare in FCPS to have freshmen playing on Varsity).

Not as rare as you think, but at same time if your wasn’t or didn’t do it, then you can’t speak on it. It’s dbl edged if you ask me because either your kid is that good or your team that bad, that he’s needed

AT FCPS public high schools, having more than one freshman on Varsity is incredibly rare.

So again, you proved my point if this is the case as I’ve not fully studied the roster composition. Either those freshman are really good, or either the upper classmen are not that good

No. These freshman are all part of the "PME" private training program and that's why they are on Varsity--because they pay for it.

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Anonymous wrote:The Hayfield game is thus far without incident. No hard hits, clean play, and fair sportsmanship. Edison would rather be celebrating at a pizza banquet, but VHSL forces these under-0.500 teams into the playoffs as penance and retribution for another week of games.

thanks for the report (sincerely) - although not sure if I'd classify 75-0 halftime beatdown as "without incident"... the "incident" just took place in the pre-season....

He got some footage for the college scouts and then put the bench in second half. Nothing wrong with that. He’s trying to help his players.

The Freefield followers are both blind and delusional. Last night's game wasn’t a game. Edison wasn’t even trying to tackle anyone in the 1st half. Don’t believe it? Pay a couple of bucks and watch it for yourself on NFHS Network. I’m sure this “footage” will amaze the “scouts”!

Then I’d blame the coach for putting my child in this position and I’d be hoping they find a coach that would teach my kids to compete and not give up. Bravo to them for quitting

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Overton is the one teaching kids that they can't compete if the playing field is even.

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Ummm if you look at the Big Ten College Football teams and of course the NFL rosters the majority of players are tall. At least 6'2" or 6'3". The running backs are rarely under 5'10". So if the Freefield football players aren't as big or tall as some of you all are saying, their football career is not going to go far in college. If they even play in a div 1 college all 4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Interesting and not surprising if you know Overton. He has done this before. Also, interesting that one adult is telling another adult to focus on their job. Their job is to focus on the kids, teach information for their class and overall make them better humans as adults. This is way more than Overton is doing and the poster of this original post stated fact and is impacting the hayfield student far more positively on a day to day basis than Overton or any of the parents that had their players transferred illegally by committing fraud. Sit this one out cheaters.

Tricks are for kids, MY job allows me more time to freelance so to speak, this person claims to be a teacher, but on this forum during school hours hmmm, how are they helping the children again. But thanx for jumping in trying to to be a hero.

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Anonymous wrote:Overton is the one teaching kids that they can't compete if the playing field is even.

So let’s consider this the only game where you could say they were even is RB, and they lost. Did you hear complaining, oh we played private school , oh we can’t compete. I’d venture to say he’s def thought them to try and not be afraid if nothing else