Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

I thought VHSL found Hayfield had rostered pre-9th graders, AKA middle schoolers. AFAIK middle schoolers (8th maybe?) are allowed on high school teams per VHSL because it happens in Arlington and Alexandria. Does FCPS allow it or no?

To my knowledge fcps has never allowed it

I know it happens at Alex city didn’t know Arlington did as well

Robinson alum and in the late 90s, I do not recall 8th graders participating in high school sports but I mean I could be wrong too

I believe as part of their investigation of the cheaters, VHSL found that a large number of kids who did not attend Hayfield feeder middle schools mysteriously popped up at Hayfield as freshmen. These were PME players and also showed up on the Varsity roster as Freshmen players on Varsity (incredibly rare in FCPS to have freshmen playing on Varsity).

Not as rare as you think, but at same time if your wasn’t or didn’t do it, then you can’t speak on it. It’s dbl edged if you ask me because either your kid is that good or your team that bad, that he’s needed

AT FCPS public high schools, having more than one freshman on Varsity is incredibly rare.

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Anonymous wrote:Edison football team is trash. It was trashed by Langley HS 43-6 back in September.

I would love to see the Hayfield coach get hired by Langley HS, and have those kids transferred to Langley HS. If that happens, Langley will go undefeated and win the state championship.

Yorktown head coach just retired after 55 years of coaching. So they’re searching for a coach too.

Yorktown and Langley are crazy long commutes from Stafford and PWC. Please think of the children!

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Anonymous wrote:Edison football team is trash. It was trashed by Langley HS 43-6 back in September.

I would love to see the Hayfield coach get hired by Langley HS, and have those kids transferred to Langley HS. If that happens, Langley will go undefeated and win the state championship.

They beat Hayfield last year. The actual, real Hayfield team.

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

I thought VHSL found Hayfield had rostered pre-9th graders, AKA middle schoolers. AFAIK middle schoolers (8th maybe?) are allowed on high school teams per VHSL because it happens in Arlington and Alexandria. Does FCPS allow it or no?

To my knowledge fcps has never allowed it

I know it happens at Alex city didn’t know Arlington did as well

Robinson alum and in the late 90s, I do not recall 8th graders participating in high school sports but I mean I could be wrong too

I believe as part of their investigation of the cheaters, VHSL found that a large number of kids who did not attend Hayfield feeder middle schools mysteriously popped up at Hayfield as freshmen. These were PME players and also showed up on the Varsity roster as Freshmen players on Varsity (incredibly rare in FCPS to have freshmen playing on Varsity).

Not as rare as you think, but at same time if your wasn’t or didn’t do it, then you can’t speak on it. It’s dbl edged if you ask me because either your kid is that good or your team that bad, that he’s needed

AT FCPS public high schools, having more than one freshman on Varsity is incredibly rare.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Edison.

While coaches and parents all across the county advocated for forfeiting, the Edison team took the field to contest their playoff berth on the gridiron....and not a courtroom or strong-armed bureaucratic office.

Edison just scored first and walked to the buses leaving as winners

The Edison kids are truly the real winners. It's amazing how this SB and Reid sent them into this knowing it would be a slaughter. If only Edison had hired Overton instead and he had brought them all those players.

Disagree. This is an unfair situation for the adults to put them into. Hopefully no one gets injured.

OK yeah, I forgot about that aspect. A team stacked with big, huge recruited players when most teams only have 1 or 2 big kids. Reid, did you think about this? The optics look bad for Reid no matter what happens here. I think she's not going to last.

The Hayfield players are not big, huge, monsters. In fact, they are quite average. You all have made them into something nefarious, fearful, and detestable.

These so called adults talking about cheating sure have no problem lying. My daughter is an Edison soccer player and she has friends at Hayfield so while we support Edison we don't hate Hayfield. The lies on here are crazy. The football players are not large at all.

My son is a Lake Braddock Football player and has no hate against "new" Hayfield players. To be honest, lots of the kids in the Football team follow the new Hayfield players on social media since the summer.
My son says they are very good. Not huge at all, but very talented and athletic.

People here are really blowing things out of proportion and many don't even have kids in the Football program. LOL.

Wrong. My son plays on different Region team. Entire team thinks it's crap that 20 kids transferred into the county to produce this super team - in public school. And has been main topic of conversation for weeks. They're used to seeing/hearing about things like that with private schools - but they're all questioning why this was allowed for Hayfield. Kids know. Don't act like everyone's OK with this nonsense.

Actually your WRONG

Comprehend what she said, HER son which doesn’t include YOUR son or even his friends or teammates HERS not YOURS. She speaks for her kid and you speak for your kid

Quote was "People here are really blowing things out of proportion and many don't even have kids in the Football program." Both claims are objectively wrong.

And "your" is a possessive adjective that indicates ownership. "you're" is a contraction of you are. You're welcome.

My degree says it doesn’t matter anymore, either way you understood what I said and what I meant

Your degree taught you words don’t matter?

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Anonymous wrote:Not gonna include the super post from someone above about Pannoni

But if WSHS wins against soco that’s a big big victory for WSHS

Soco has had WSHS number for years and players coaches team have been so close at finally beating soco

So moving on from hayfield beating Edison (which like can we all just be honest that like 75-0, a great coach pulls starters and doesn’t go for insane blood)

But anyway WSHS beating soco especially in the playoffs would be a great quality win for coach Parker and the squad. So I mean let’s find something pretty exciting for another team

Someone was complaining about the Braddock score but I mean I don’t think anyone is shocked, Mount Vernon just doesn’t have the player base to compete with a lot of schools

Curious about fairfax v west po last score check was 21-12, closer than I’d expect so maybe a evenly matched game

Thoughts?

Also they’re playing so we can continue the other part debate sure but can we also talk about the actual games now. The kids are playing and brackets moving along

The westfield-madison game tomorrow should be good.

Yeah Hayfield isn’t in a football district. They can just breeze through their competition. When they get to the winner of that game, there could be trouble.

Yes. I am someone who thinks Hayfield should be in the playoffs but I also think either of these teams can beat them.

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Anonymous wrote:Blaming Edison's coach for bad coaching is some pretty insane gaslighting. Did you forget your meds this morning?

They are 3-7 yes it’s safe to say he not a good coach, nothing to do with this one game.

Edison is 4-6 this season. They beat Hayfield last year with the same coach.

Proves my point about in so many ways,
*Aziz was not that good of a coach good man bad coach
*even at 4-6 (thought I read 3-7) they shouldn’t be in playoffs
*Hayfield I believe still win district but lost in first round

Kids were all over that place walking around I guess with some new trend of ski goggles on there heads

That's super cute. I like that the kids are out there having fun.


In the midst of controversy, this made me laugh out loud, there is a ski goggle trend?!

I believe the Edison “hype squad” was doing a skiing theme. The Edison cheerleaders were wearing “ski gear” - goggles, winter head bands you often see on the slopes, snow pants, jackets. Edison’s small hype squad were also dressed in the same type of gear.


At the local football games I’ve attended, the kids pick a theme and dress for it - white out, pink out, Hawaiian, etc. The ski theme was appropriate last night with the weather.

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Anonymous wrote:The Hayfield game is thus far without incident. No hard hits, clean play, and fair sportsmanship. Edison would rather be celebrating at a pizza banquet, but VHSL forces these under-0.500 teams into the playoffs as penance and retribution for another week of games.

thanks for the report (sincerely) - although not sure if I'd classify 75-0 halftime beatdown as "without incident"... the "incident" just took place in the pre-season....

He got some footage for the college scouts and then put the bench in second half. Nothing wrong with that. He’s trying to help his players.

The Freefield followers are both blind and delusional. Last night's game wasn’t a game. Edison wasn’t even trying to tackle anyone in the 1st half. Don’t believe it? Pay a couple of bucks and watch it for yourself on NFHS Network. I’m sure this “footage” will amaze the “scouts”!

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Edison.

While coaches and parents all across the county advocated for forfeiting, the Edison team took the field to contest their playoff berth on the gridiron....and not a courtroom or strong-armed bureaucratic office.

Edison just scored first and walked to the buses leaving as winners

The Edison kids are truly the real winners. It's amazing how this SB and Reid sent them into this knowing it would be a slaughter. If only Edison had hired Overton instead and he had brought them all those players.

Disagree. This is an unfair situation for the adults to put them into. Hopefully no one gets injured.

OK yeah, I forgot about that aspect. A team stacked with big, huge recruited players when most teams only have 1 or 2 big kids. Reid, did you think about this? The optics look bad for Reid no matter what happens here. I think she's not going to last.

The Hayfield players are not big, huge, monsters. In fact, they are quite average. You all have made them into something nefarious, fearful, and detestable.

These so called adults talking about cheating sure have no problem lying. My daughter is an Edison soccer player and she has friends at Hayfield so while we support Edison we don't hate Hayfield. The lies on here are crazy. The football players are not large at all.

My son is a Lake Braddock Football player and has no hate against "new" Hayfield players. To be honest, lots of the kids in the Football team follow the new Hayfield players on social media since the summer.
My son says they are very good. Not huge at all, but very talented and athletic.

People here are really blowing things out of proportion and many don't even have kids in the Football program. LOL.

They have an ulterior agenda and it is to remove people off the SB and put in right leaning members. They don't watch or care about HS football.

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Interesting and not surprising if you know Overton. He has done this before. Also, interesting that one adult is telling another adult to focus on their job. Their job is to focus on the kids, teach information for their class and overall make them better humans as adults. This is way more than Overton is doing and the poster of this original post stated fact and is impacting the hayfield student far more positively on a day to day basis than Overton or any of the parents that had their players transferred illegally by committing fraud. Sit this one out cheaters.

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

They aren't. This person is just making things up, like half the posts on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Edison.

While coaches and parents all across the county advocated for forfeiting, the Edison team took the field to contest their playoff berth on the gridiron....and not a courtroom or strong-armed bureaucratic office.

Edison just scored first and walked to the buses leaving as winners

The Edison kids are truly the real winners. It's amazing how this SB and Reid sent them into this knowing it would be a slaughter. If only Edison had hired Overton instead and he had brought them all those players.

Disagree. This is an unfair situation for the adults to put them into. Hopefully no one gets injured.

OK yeah, I forgot about that aspect. A team stacked with big, huge recruited players when most teams only have 1 or 2 big kids. Reid, did you think about this? The optics look bad for Reid no matter what happens here. I think she's not going to last.

The Hayfield players are not big, huge, monsters. In fact, they are quite average. You all have made them into something nefarious, fearful, and detestable.

These so called adults talking about cheating sure have no problem lying. My daughter is an Edison soccer player and she has friends at Hayfield so while we support Edison we don't hate Hayfield. The lies on here are crazy. The football players are not large at all.

My son is a Lake Braddock Football player and has no hate against "new" Hayfield players. To be honest, lots of the kids in the Football team follow the new Hayfield players on social media since the summer.
My son says they are very good. Not huge at all, but very talented and athletic.

People here are really blowing things out of proportion and many don't even have kids in the Football program. LOL.

They have an ulterior agenda and it is to remove people off the SB and put in right leaning members. They don't watch or care about HS football.

"Delulu" as the kids say.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Edison.

While coaches and parents all across the county advocated for forfeiting, the Edison team took the field to contest their playoff berth on the gridiron....and not a courtroom or strong-armed bureaucratic office.

Edison just scored first and walked to the buses leaving as winners

The Edison kids are truly the real winners. It's amazing how this SB and Reid sent them into this knowing it would be a slaughter. If only Edison had hired Overton instead and he had brought them all those players.

Disagree. This is an unfair situation for the adults to put them into. Hopefully no one gets injured.

OK yeah, I forgot about that aspect. A team stacked with big, huge recruited players when most teams only have 1 or 2 big kids. Reid, did you think about this? The optics look bad for Reid no matter what happens here. I think she's not going to last.

I've been to the games. Hayfield is a lot of things but they're not big or huge. They're actually quite average to small for football players.

You can look at the rosters to compare size. They are much bigger in numbers in numbers and height/weight. They have a player who is 6’ 7” 270.

You are either making it up, this kid lied about his height (wouldn't be the first time a man does this) or he never goes to games. No one that tall touched the field last night. My husband is 6'6". My sons are 6'4 and in MS and my daughter is 6'1" and a junior. I can spot tall people from anywhere (I'm the short one at 5'8") and no one on the field was that tall. I also went last time Hayfield played us and no one that tall was on the field.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Edison.

While coaches and parents all across the county advocated for forfeiting, the Edison team took the field to contest their playoff berth on the gridiron....and not a courtroom or strong-armed bureaucratic office.

Edison just scored first and walked to the buses leaving as winners

The Edison kids are truly the real winners. It's amazing how this SB and Reid sent them into this knowing it would be a slaughter. If only Edison had hired Overton instead and he had brought them all those players.

Disagree. This is an unfair situation for the adults to put them into. Hopefully no one gets injured.

OK yeah, I forgot about that aspect. A team stacked with big, huge recruited players when most teams only have 1 or 2 big kids. Reid, did you think about this? The optics look bad for Reid no matter what happens here. I think she's not going to last.

I've been to the games. Hayfield is a lot of things but they're not big or huge. They're actually quite average to small for football players.

You can look at the rosters to compare size. They are much bigger in numbers in numbers and height/weight. They have a player who is 6’ 7” 270.

You are either making it up, this kid lied about his height (wouldn't be the first time a man does this) or he never goes to games. No one that tall touched the field last night. My husband is 6'6". My sons are 6'4 and in MS and my daughter is 6'1" and a junior. I can spot tall people from anywhere (I'm the short one at 5'8") and no one on the field was that tall. I also went last time Hayfield played us and no one that tall was on the field.

It isn't necessarily the player "lying" about their height. Coaches will often add an inch or two and some pounds on the rosters. They do it in college and professional sports, sometimes, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Worst kept secret out there is that Overton has transferred in loads of PME talent into the middle school also. The recruiting train will keep on rolling even after this season… IF he’s allowed to stay. I work in the middle school at Hayfield.

Interesting my daughter works there too, and how there are n middle school sports, ima call b.s. and shouldn’t you be teaching

Yes, all FCPS parents know we don't have MS football.
The point is PME pay to play middle schoolers are being recruited to transfer in and be in the Hayfield system, do green day workouts, etc.

How is Hayfield allowed to have middle schoolers join green dsy practices? That is not allowed and would be a huge liability issue for FCPS.

I thought VHSL found Hayfield had rostered pre-9th graders, AKA middle schoolers. AFAIK middle schoolers (8th maybe?) are allowed on high school teams per VHSL because it happens in Arlington and Alexandria. Does FCPS allow it or no?

To my knowledge fcps has never allowed it

I know it happens at Alex city didn’t know Arlington did as well

Robinson alum and in the late 90s, I do not recall 8th graders participating in high school sports but I mean I could be wrong too

I believe as part of their investigation of the cheaters, VHSL found that a large number of kids who did not attend Hayfield feeder middle schools mysteriously popped up at Hayfield as freshmen. These were PME players and also showed up on the Varsity roster as Freshmen players on Varsity (incredibly rare in FCPS to have freshmen playing on Varsity).

Not as rare as you think, but at same time if your wasn’t or didn’t do it, then you can’t speak on it. It’s dbl edged if you ask me because either your kid is that good or your team that bad, that he’s needed

AT FCPS public high schools, having more than one freshman on Varsity is incredibly rare.

Depends on if the team is terrible or not. My daughter and 2 other freshman made Varsity on a team their freshman year because the team was so bad. Had it been a stacked team she would have been placed on JV.