Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Anonymous wrote:What a stupid lawsuit.

Perhaps, but put yourself in Gabby’s parent’s shoes - perhaps they want the Laundries to feel 1/100 of the pain that they have endured since Sept, perhaps it is how they have learned to grieve each + every day, perhaps they hope to deter another situation like this ever occurring again.

We are not in their shoes ->> if we were than it could be more crystal clear.
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How is a lawsuit against the Laundries going to deter anything? The Laundries lost a son too, and they have to grapple with him committing a terrible crime. It is enough.

Because if the Petito family actually successfully won a court case regarding the Laundrie family deliberately withholding information from them >> then it is possible that in the future, no family will ever get away w/doing this to another grieving family ever again. 😢

Unlikely. It's a civil suit. OJ Simpson was successfully sued by his deceased wife's family but women are still murdered by their ex-husbands to this day. It doesn't follow that the suit will do much of anything.

It sends a message to enablers and creates some accountability for these monsters who clearly should have been charged with helping their subhuman son cover up a murder.

If they are successfully sued their home insurance policy will probably pay out. They won't feel much financial pain. 100K is probably their home insurance personal liability limit.

Their insurance will drop them and it will be very difficult to get new policies at comparable rates. One top of the tens in thousands in legal fees they rack up. They will feel the pain regardless.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought they are hoping the lawsuit will allow them access to Brian’s note and notebook that were left, so they can understand the events that led to Brian killing their daughter. I would want to understand too.

What sort of satisfactory explanation or rational would help anyone "understand" murder?

I hope you never will know the murder of a loved one, but there are so many unanswered questions and regrets. Even when you know who the murderer was. There will always be lingering questions

Agree and the writings of a murderer might not be something you'd want in your head. The one I know offered narcissistic explanations; more or less a toddler saying I didn't get my way so she didn't get her life.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for Gabby's family, and they are correct that the family had a moral obligation, but there is no legal basis for this lawsuit. Except in very limited circumstances (e.g., a grand jury subpoena), you don't have to answer questions or provide information about a crime that a family member may have committed. You can't lie to law enforcement about it, but you are 100 percent within your rights not to speak with them or provide information.

There are criminal laws against harboring a fugitive and obstructing federal investigations. And there are plenty of civil laws their actions would fall under

As I recall Brian was not wanted by police until after he had already left his parents home and was dead. His parents did not harbor a fugitive. The police knew he was at his parents house. The PP is correct, there is no legal obligation to affirmatively answer questions particularly about a crime you had no part in. Neither set of parents is a winner here and I have read nothing that indicates Brian’s parents had any involvement in his criminal activities. This lawsuit is prolonged public pain and huge legal bills for both sides, with no chance of Gabby gaining from this.

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Anonymous wrote:What a stupid lawsuit.

Perhaps, but put yourself in Gabby’s parent’s shoes - perhaps they want the Laundries to feel 1/100 of the pain that they have endured since Sept, perhaps it is how they have learned to grieve each + every day, perhaps they hope to deter another situation like this ever occurring again.

We are not in their shoes ->> if we were than it could be more crystal clear.
🔮📿

How is a lawsuit against the Laundries going to deter anything? The Laundries lost a son too, and they have to grapple with him committing a terrible crime. It is enough.

Because if the Petito family actually successfully won a court case regarding the Laundrie family deliberately withholding information from them >> then it is possible that in the future, no family will ever get away w/doing this to another grieving family ever again. 😢

Unlikely. It's a civil suit. OJ Simpson was successfully sued by his deceased wife's family but women are still murdered by their ex-husbands to this day. It doesn't follow that the suit will do much of anything.

It sends a message to enablers and creates some accountability for these monsters who clearly should have been charged with helping their subhuman son cover up a murder.

If they are successfully sued their home insurance policy will probably pay out. They won't feel much financial pain. 100K is probably their home insurance personal liability limit.

Their insurance will drop them and it will be very difficult to get new policies at comparable rates. One top of the tens in thousands in legal fees they rack up. They will feel the pain regardless.

The insurance policy will also defend them. Even if they decline to renew after this event the Laundries are unlikely to face a similar one and will just have to pay higher premiums with another company.

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Anonymous wrote:What a stupid lawsuit.

Perhaps, but put yourself in Gabby’s parent’s shoes - perhaps they want the Laundries to feel 1/100 of the pain that they have endured since Sept, perhaps it is how they have learned to grieve each + every day, perhaps they hope to deter another situation like this ever occurring again.

We are not in their shoes ->> if we were than it could be more crystal clear.
🔮📿

How is a lawsuit against the Laundries going to deter anything? The Laundries lost a son too, and they have to grapple with him committing a terrible crime. It is enough.

Because if the Petito family actually successfully won a court case regarding the Laundrie family deliberately withholding information from them >> then it is possible that in the future, no family will ever get away w/doing this to another grieving family ever again. 😢

Unlikely. It's a civil suit. OJ Simpson was successfully sued by his deceased wife's family but women are still murdered by their ex-husbands to this day. It doesn't follow that the suit will do much of anything.

It sends a message to enablers and creates some accountability for these monsters who clearly should have been charged with helping their subhuman son cover up a murder.

If they are successfully sued their home insurance policy will probably pay out. They won't feel much financial pain. 100K is probably their home insurance personal liability limit.

Their insurance will drop them and it will be very difficult to get new policies at comparable rates. One top of the tens in thousands in legal fees they rack up. They will feel the pain regardless.

The insurance policy will also defend them. Even if they decline to renew after this event the Laundries are unlikely to face a similar one and will just have to pay higher premiums with another company.

Florida home insurance rates are ALREADY 2X the national average with very few choices because the entire state is a hurricane zone. If they're dropped and can't get a new policy, they'll have to take the insurance company to court or mediation out of their own pocket or just not have insurance in the next hurricane and watch their house be wiped out, flooded, or made uninhabitable.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. I didn’t realize he left a half written note. An exFBI agent is questioning whether hBrian Laundrie’s death was an assisted suicide. He was right handed, and was shot on the left side of his head.

https://www.wric.com/news/ex-fbi-agent-questions-bothersome-detail-in-brian-laundrie-autopsy/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwAR3Olb0IPXlx2S38k0jX6Wv3UuzDdbzhjubSvJ70WTj_ucP4cYa_UtZB6Yo

If I am having a hard time shooting myself in the head using the pointer finger of my right (dominant) hand because I’m shaking or the trigger is hard to pull, I’m going to use both hands to hold the gun and use my dominant thumb to pull the trigger. That means I would likely be shooting myself on the front or left side of my head despite the fact that I’m right handed. That FBI agent has a limited imagination.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a stupid lawsuit.

Perhaps, but put yourself in Gabby’s parent’s shoes - perhaps they want the Laundries to feel 1/100 of the pain that they have endured since Sept, perhaps it is how they have learned to grieve each + every day, perhaps they hope to deter another situation like this ever occurring again.

We are not in their shoes ->> if we were than it could be more crystal clear.
🔮📿

How is a lawsuit against the Laundries going to deter anything? The Laundries lost a son too, and they have to grapple with him committing a terrible crime. It is enough.

Because if the Petito family actually successfully won a court case regarding the Laundrie family deliberately withholding information from them >> then it is possible that in the future, no family will ever get away w/doing this to another grieving family ever again. 😢

Unlikely. It's a civil suit. OJ Simpson was successfully sued by his deceased wife's family but women are still murdered by their ex-husbands to this day. It doesn't follow that the suit will do much of anything.

It sends a message to enablers and creates some accountability for these monsters who clearly should have been charged with helping their subhuman son cover up a murder.

If they are successfully sued their home insurance policy will probably pay out. They won't feel much financial pain. 100K is probably their home insurance personal liability limit.

Their insurance will drop them and it will be very difficult to get new policies at comparable rates. One top of the tens in thousands in legal fees they rack up. They will feel the pain regardless.

The insurance policy will also defend them. Even if they decline to renew after this event the Laundries are unlikely to face a similar one and will just have to pay higher premiums with another company.

Florida home insurance rates are ALREADY 2X the national average with very few choices because the entire state is a hurricane zone. If they're dropped and can't get a new policy, they'll have to take the insurance company to court or mediation out of their own pocket or just not have insurance in the next hurricane and watch their house be wiped out, flooded, or made uninhabitable.

Bolded is not universally true in Florida. If you are not in a flood zone, your house is priced typically. I pay the same as I did 'up north'.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a stupid lawsuit.

Perhaps, but put yourself in Gabby’s parent’s shoes - perhaps they want the Laundries to feel 1/100 of the pain that they have endured since Sept, perhaps it is how they have learned to grieve each + every day, perhaps they hope to deter another situation like this ever occurring again.

We are not in their shoes ->> if we were than it could be more crystal clear.
🔮📿

How is a lawsuit against the Laundries going to deter anything? The Laundries lost a son too, and they have to grapple with him committing a terrible crime. It is enough.

Because if the Petito family actually successfully won a court case regarding the Laundrie family deliberately withholding information from them >> then it is possible that in the future, no family will ever get away w/doing this to another grieving family ever again. 😢

Unlikely. It's a civil suit. OJ Simpson was successfully sued by his deceased wife's family but women are still murdered by their ex-husbands to this day. It doesn't follow that the suit will do much of anything.

It sends a message to enablers and creates some accountability for these monsters who clearly should have been charged with helping their subhuman son cover up a murder.

If they are successfully sued their home insurance policy will probably pay out. They won't feel much financial pain. 100K is probably their home insurance personal liability limit.

Their insurance will drop them and it will be very difficult to get new policies at comparable rates. One top of the tens in thousands in legal fees they rack up. They will feel the pain regardless.

The insurance policy will also defend them. Even if they decline to renew after this event the Laundries are unlikely to face a similar one and will just have to pay higher premiums with another company.

Florida home insurance rates are ALREADY 2X the national average with very few choices because the entire state is a hurricane zone. If they're dropped and can't get a new policy, they'll have to take the insurance company to court or mediation out of their own pocket or just not have insurance in the next hurricane and watch their house be wiped out, flooded, or made uninhabitable.

Bolded is not universally true in Florida. If you are not in a flood zone, your house is priced typically. I pay the same as I did 'up north'.

Guess what? The Laundrie house is a flood zone.

Overall, North Port has a severe risk of flooding over the next 30 years, which means flooding is likely to impact day to day life within the community.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a stupid lawsuit.

Perhaps, but put yourself in Gabby’s parent’s shoes - perhaps they want the Laundries to feel 1/100 of the pain that they have endured since Sept, perhaps it is how they have learned to grieve each + every day, perhaps they hope to deter another situation like this ever occurring again.

We are not in their shoes ->> if we were than it could be more crystal clear.
🔮📿

How is a lawsuit against the Laundries going to deter anything? The Laundries lost a son too, and they have to grapple with him committing a terrible crime. It is enough.

Because if the Petito family actually successfully won a court case regarding the Laundrie family deliberately withholding information from them >> then it is possible that in the future, no family will ever get away w/doing this to another grieving family ever again. 😢

Unlikely. It's a civil suit. OJ Simpson was successfully sued by his deceased wife's family but women are still murdered by their ex-husbands to this day. It doesn't follow that the suit will do much of anything.

It sends a message to enablers and creates some accountability for these monsters who clearly should have been charged with helping their subhuman son cover up a murder.

If they are successfully sued their home insurance policy will probably pay out. They won't feel much financial pain. 100K is probably their home insurance personal liability limit.

Their insurance will drop them and it will be very difficult to get new policies at comparable rates. One top of the tens in thousands in legal fees they rack up. They will feel the pain regardless.

The insurance policy will also defend them. Even if they decline to renew after this event the Laundries are unlikely to face a similar one and will just have to pay higher premiums with another company.

Florida home insurance rates are ALREADY 2X the national average with very few choices because the entire state is a hurricane zone. If they're dropped and can't get a new policy, they'll have to take the insurance company to court or mediation out of their own pocket or just not have insurance in the next hurricane and watch their house be wiped out, flooded, or made uninhabitable.

I can't imagine that they would stay in their home or in Florida. They'll probably move as soon as they can and try to fade away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a stupid lawsuit.

Perhaps, but put yourself in Gabby’s parent’s shoes - perhaps they want the Laundries to feel 1/100 of the pain that they have endured since Sept, perhaps it is how they have learned to grieve each + every day, perhaps they hope to deter another situation like this ever occurring again.

We are not in their shoes ->> if we were than it could be more crystal clear.
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Is vengeance the basis of justice? Is that what you're suggesting? I feel deeply for Gabby's parents - I can only imagine their suffering and pain. And, similarly, I can only imagine the very real suffering and pain of the Landrie family. Their son, innocent until proven guilty - which he was never proven guilty. And they not only lost their child, they've been baselessly and sometimes absurdly attacked for all sorts of nutty things.

Lo

I do not disagree w/your points here.

However unless any one of us has experienced the pain of losing a beloved child in a very public way - who are any of us to compare justice to vengeance??
Grieving is such a unique and individual process.
And one that should ever be judged.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. I didn’t realize he left a half written note. An exFBI agent is questioning whether hBrian Laundrie’s death was an assisted suicide. He was right handed, and was shot on the left side of his head.

https://www.wric.com/news/ex-fbi-agent-questions-bothersome-detail-in-brian-laundrie-autopsy/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwAR3Olb0IPXlx2S38k0jX6Wv3UuzDdbzhjubSvJ70WTj_ucP4cYa_UtZB6Yo

If I am having a hard time shooting myself in the head using the pointer finger of my right (dominant) hand because I’m shaking or the trigger is hard to pull, I’m going to use both hands to hold the gun and use my dominant thumb to pull the trigger. That means I would likely be shooting myself on the front or left side of my head despite the fact that I’m right handed. That FBI agent has a limited imagination.

It is an odd scenario but what you’ve stated 9/10 would be opposite, you wouldn’t switch to the weaker hand you’d bring over the less dominate hand for support. The hand you aren’t used to using isn’t going to have the grasp. You’d still use your dominant side because mentally you feel it’s stronger. Just like catching a ball or playing baseball, your body denotes a stronger side or preferred side. Think about washing your hair with your less dominant hand or which way you turn to open doors with which hand/arm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. I didn’t realize he left a half written note. An exFBI agent is questioning whether hBrian Laundrie’s death was an assisted suicide. He was right handed, and was shot on the left side of his head.

https://www.wric.com/news/ex-fbi-agent-questions-bothersome-detail-in-brian-laundrie-autopsy/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwAR3Olb0IPXlx2S38k0jX6Wv3UuzDdbzhjubSvJ70WTj_ucP4cYa_UtZB6Yo

If I am having a hard time shooting myself in the head using the pointer finger of my right (dominant) hand because I’m shaking or the trigger is hard to pull, I’m going to use both hands to hold the gun and use my dominant thumb to pull the trigger. That means I would likely be shooting myself on the front or left side of my head despite the fact that I’m right handed. That FBI agent has a limited imagination.

It is an odd scenario but what you’ve stated 9/10 would be opposite, you wouldn’t switch to the weaker hand you’d bring over the less dominate hand for support. The hand you aren’t used to using isn’t going to have the grasp. You’d still use your dominant side because mentally you feel it’s stronger. Just like catching a ball or playing baseball, your body denotes a stronger side or preferred side. Think about washing your hair with your less dominant hand or which way you turn to open doors with which hand/arm.

If I’m using my right thumb, I’m not switching to my weak hand, I’m using both hands. The weak hand is only aiding the dominant hand in order to shoot at a different angle. In any case, it’s all a load of weak speculation that’s being used to bolster the theory that someone else killed him. Without any other evidence, a bullet to the left side of the head does not indicate that someone murdered him.

[Anonymous]

I sort of think by being active in something can be a great distraction from having to fully grieve a personal loss. 😢

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a stupid lawsuit.

Perhaps, but put yourself in Gabby’s parent’s shoes - perhaps they want the Laundries to feel 1/100 of the pain that they have endured since Sept, perhaps it is how they have learned to grieve each + every day, perhaps they hope to deter another situation like this ever occurring again.

We are not in their shoes ->> if we were than it could be more crystal clear.
🔮📿

Is vengeance the basis of justice? Is that what you're suggesting? I feel deeply for Gabby's parents - I can only imagine their suffering and pain. And, similarly, I can only imagine the very real suffering and pain of the Landrie family. Their son, innocent until proven guilty - which he was never proven guilty. And they not only lost their child, they've been baselessly and sometimes absurdly attacked for all sorts of nutty things. Lo

A basis. Yes.

[Anonymous]

Some pages from his notebook were released. Gaslighting from the grave.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/24/us/laundrie-notebook-petito/index.html