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Skinny is the new moral/hard working and all other kind of superiority?
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Anonymous
Go away. Being proud of the work you put into maintaining your own health has nothing to do with shaming anyone else. |
Anonymous
To be fair there are more people online being proud to lose 10 lbs on a 200 lbs bodies than anything else. It all goes under "healthy choices". |
Anonymous
Very true. Losing weight is celebrated but maintaining is demonized. What's the difference? |
Anonymous
Did you read OP? |
Anonymous
OP is a crazy crack pot whose rant made little sense. I'm responding to the immediate PP |
Anonymous
That is true. What you do to others, however, is beyond pale. |
Anonymous
That is what the thread is about. Not necessarily demonized maintaining weight, rather considering being overweight a moral failure by the that are slim. And not only them, most of our society. Men that are overweight, many of them feel superior to overweight women and call them names. My FIL, for example, who has a triplet stomach, calls overweight women on cruises whale watching. He openly mocks them and ridiculous them though he weighs more than many of them, and not just bcs he is taller. He is not. |
Anonymous
The vast majority of posts on this thread don't shame anyone. OP and at least one other poster have repeatedly shamed thin people (while also claiming to be thin? it's very confusing). There have also been a few (maybe 5?) posts of people saying they do think weight loss is about personal responsibility and will power. While I don't agree with them, I don't find their posts that shaming. More that they are reflective of some myths we have in this country around health and weight loss. I think if you are ashamed of your body, you will see any criticism or disagreement as "shaming". But it isn't, not always. Sometimes people are just expressing an opinion in a mild way. Sometimes their opinions are wrong or heavily skewed by their own experience. I will say that as a woman in the US in 2021, I don't think being thin protects you from shame about your body. This country is messed up about bodies in general, but especially about women's bodies. I know tons of thin women who feel shame around their bodies all the time. Sometimes it's about not conforming to societal expectations about how a body is supposed to look. Those expectations want women to be thin, but also to have perfect boobs and a but, to be shapely but not heavy, to be tan but not dark, etc. It's not just about weight. It's about sexualization, race, so many things. Lots of women of every size and shape carry around shame they got from their families, their communities, their churches and schools, and their friends. Shame is when you say that someone is not a worthwhile person. I don't see much of that on this thread, and what I do see is coming from a handful of posters who I suspect are dealing with a lot of their own shame. I would include OP in this group -- something is going on that is making you so angry. Otherwise, most people on here have been pretty shame-free, which is refreshing. |
Anonymous
But that point doesn't resonate with me at all. And just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true. I'm thin and care about fitness, because I like it. It's about me, not you or anyone else. My staying in shape doesn't shame anyone. Your FIL sounds like a misogynistic asshole. What else is new? |
Anonymous
Something systemic can only be true if you, pp, personally feel or do it? I don't put black people into prisons at higher rates than white people but I know and accept that it happens. |
Anonymous
That can be backed up by data. Please cite your source for your claims. |
Anonymous
| Personally I think overweight people look slovenly. |
Anonymous
Cite a source for how people hate fat people? How about any thread like this on DCUM. Any fashion mag (for every Ashley Graham there are 30 Kendall Jenners). Any television shows where fat people are not there for diversity and have legitimate happy lives/dreams/storylines outside of their weight? They exist (Mike and Molly!) but are few and far between. Prevalence of eating disorders and body image issues in teen girls, by age 13 58% of girls are unhappy with their body and this grows to almost 80% by the time they turn 17 (https://depts.washington.edu/thmedia/view.cgi?section=bodyimage&page=fastfacts) 80% of ten year olds are afraid of being fat. 70% of women who are a normal weight want to be thinner. 80% of women do not like how they look. (https://www.macmh.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/18_Gallivan_Teens-social-media-body-image-presentation-H-Gallivan-Spring-2014.pdf) |
Anonymous
So you don’t have data that said skinny women are morally superior? Got it. |
Anonymous
I never made that claim. It felt like you responded to claim that society hates fat people that featured an anecdote about a fat person who was mean to fat people about how you are not mean to fat people and therefore....I felt your conclusion was that you were denying the issue existed and that people are not mean to fat people. Then you asked for evidence and I assumed you asked for evidence about whether it is true that society thinks about fat people are bad and provided it. I am not OP, I'm responding in the context of this back and forth. I bolded the part of PP's post that I assumed you were responding to. |