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Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...

It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.

I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.

Opinions are like you?

Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.

Facts:
When FCV was in ECNL up to 70 kids would show up for tryouts. - Conjecture. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. You don't know this and have no way of supporting this...argumentative.

Facts:
When DA launched and ECNL expanded FCV tryouts numbers plummeted to less than 10 outside kids. - Speculation. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. I personally saw the 07's when trying out and they had 3 full games going...i.e. ~66 players or more.

Facts:
FCV is not drawing outside talent like it used to. - Come on. This is simple conjecture attempting to be argumentative. You have no evidence to support any claim like this.

Facts:
All clubs are relying on internal talent more and more as staying put is easier for kids. - How can you possibly know the internal working and players, player development from EVERY club. More conjecture to be argumentative.

Facts:
FCV does not offer anything that 6 other clubs can’t also offer while staying closer to home and continue to play with established friends. - Wow...while you can compare clubs and offering, there isn't a club anywhere in NoVa that trains like FCV. I hear it from parents all the time that come in for tryouts. FCV is still getting stragglers from MU coming for tryouts as of this week. If a player wants to play near home and play with friends, that is fine. But the training the would get is not even close in comparison.

Facts:
Kids still like playing in HS. And FCV lost several players mid season to HS alone. - I do not know of ANY DA players that left to play HS. Some may not come to FCV for that reason, and that is a personal choice that is OK. Every player is different.

Facts:
FCV sold because the writing is on the wall if they stay in Loudoun.

- And you finish off with conjecture. Unless you are CZ, STJ owner or one of the lawyers involved, you have no idea why the club was sold. I have personally heard why the club was sold and it not b/c of the made up reason you state above.

Don't hate on FCV because the club has better teams at the DA level. Some kids fit in better at other clubs, nothing wrong with that. But if you want to get looked at by college coaches, FCV is the club in this area to do that. Regardless if the player is 12, 18, 1, or 3.

False. In the history of FCV DA, players 12 and 18 have never received a D1 offer. I am not sure they would be in the top 5 on another club but those players actually get D1 offers. So if those FCV players are better it is pretty obvious they are making a mistake in staying.

So the links that were shared yesterday are false? Because they show plenty of kids 12-18 getting D1 offers. Do you really think that people are going to believe you versus the actual data that is on the Internet? FCV is different from every other club for the simple fact that it is BY FAR the strongest DA/ECNL option in the area. That may change but it won’t change because you hope it will. Top players want to play with top players. The big fish in the small pond isn’t for everyone. Finally, with respect to tryout numbers at FCV, less people are coming out to the older age group tryout for the same reason, there are already a ton of top players there and breaking in would be extremely difficult. Very easy to understand unless you are obsessed with coming up with crazy reasons to hope for FCVs demise.

And to do he poster talking about dilution. FCV, today, is BY FAR, the least affected. Regional ECNL means nothing for FCV DA. FCV DA has become a destination - for top players and that is exactly what the top level (currently called GDA) should be about. It requires more sacrifices. If you want to play at the top during the crucial older years, you don’t care what ECNL or regional ecnl clubs you’re driving by to get to the top club(s). Ecnl is a great second tier option especially for those that want to play high school. And certainly some top players are there. But the heaviest concentrations are and should be at the DA. It’s funny too that ecnl is promoting high school. Because before GDA the top teams weren’t exactly encouraging high school soccer being prioritizing over club.

Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, please you're embarrassing yourself by even posting here. What was the matriculation at the 07 age group then for example. IF FCV is the destination you claim it to be then how many outside kids are on the rising 07 DA team?

Full time DA? 1 or 2. LOL. But less than 10 came to tryouts so not surprising.

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Anonymous wrote:PP shtick is getting old.

Then stick to Twitter

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...

It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.

I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.

Opinions are like you?

Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.

Facts:
When FCV was in ECNL up to 70 kids would show up for tryouts. - Conjecture. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. You don't know this and have no way of supporting this...argumentative.

Facts:
When DA launched and ECNL expanded FCV tryouts numbers plummeted to less than 10 outside kids. - Speculation. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. I personally saw the 07's when trying out and they had 3 full games going...i.e. ~66 players or more.

Facts:
FCV is not drawing outside talent like it used to. - Come on. This is simple conjecture attempting to be argumentative. You have no evidence to support any claim like this.

Facts:
All clubs are relying on internal talent more and more as staying put is easier for kids. - How can you possibly know the internal working and players, player development from EVERY club. More conjecture to be argumentative.

Facts:
FCV does not offer anything that 6 other clubs can’t also offer while staying closer to home and continue to play with established friends. - Wow...while you can compare clubs and offering, there isn't a club anywhere in NoVa that trains like FCV. I hear it from parents all the time that come in for tryouts. FCV is still getting stragglers from MU coming for tryouts as of this week. If a player wants to play near home and play with friends, that is fine. But the training the would get is not even close in comparison.

Facts:
Kids still like playing in HS. And FCV lost several players mid season to HS alone. - I do not know of ANY DA players that left to play HS. Some may not come to FCV for that reason, and that is a personal choice that is OK. Every player is different.

Facts:
FCV sold because the writing is on the wall if they stay in Loudoun.

- And you finish off with conjecture. Unless you are CZ, STJ owner or one of the lawyers involved, you have no idea why the club was sold. I have personally heard why the club was sold and it not b/c of the made up reason you state above.

Don't hate on FCV because the club has better teams at the DA level. Some kids fit in better at other clubs, nothing wrong with that. But if you want to get looked at by college coaches, FCV is the club in this area to do that. Regardless if the player is 12, 18, 1, or 3.

False. In the history of FCV DA, players 12 and 18 have never received a D1 offer. I am not sure they would be in the top 5 on another club but those players actually get D1 offers. So if those FCV players are better it is pretty obvious they are making a mistake in staying.

So the links that were shared yesterday are false? Because they show plenty of kids 12-18 getting D1 offers. Do you really think that people are going to believe you versus the actual data that is on the Internet? FCV is different from every other club for the simple fact that it is BY FAR the strongest DA/ECNL option in the area. That may change but it won’t change because you hope it will. Top players want to play with top players. The big fish in the small pond isn’t for everyone. Finally, with respect to tryout numbers at FCV, less people are coming out to the older age group tryout for the same reason, there are already a ton of top players there and breaking in would be extremely difficult. Very easy to understand unless you are obsessed with coming up with crazy reasons to hope for FCVs demise.

And to do he poster talking about dilution. FCV, today, is BY FAR, the least affected. Regional ECNL means nothing for FCV DA. FCV DA has become a destination - for top players and that is exactly what the top level (currently called GDA) should be about. It requires more sacrifices. If you want to play at the top during the crucial older years, you don’t care what ECNL or regional ecnl clubs you’re driving by to get to the top club(s). Ecnl is a great second tier option especially for those that want to play high school. And certainly some top players are there. But the heaviest concentrations are and should be at the DA. It’s funny too that ecnl is promoting high school. Because before GDA the top teams weren’t exactly encouraging high school soccer being prioritizing over club.

Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, please you're embarrassing yourself by even posting here. What was the matriculation at the 07 age group then for example. IF FCV is the destination you claim it to be then how many outside kids are on the rising 07 DA team?

This guy is a complete goofball.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...

It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.

I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.

Opinions are like you?

Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.

Facts:
When FCV was in ECNL up to 70 kids would show up for tryouts. - Conjecture. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. You don't know this and have no way of supporting this...argumentative.

Facts:
When DA launched and ECNL expanded FCV tryouts numbers plummeted to less than 10 outside kids. - Speculation. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. I personally saw the 07's when trying out and they had 3 full games going...i.e. ~66 players or more.

Facts:
FCV is not drawing outside talent like it used to. - Come on. This is simple conjecture attempting to be argumentative. You have no evidence to support any claim like this.

Facts:
All clubs are relying on internal talent more and more as staying put is easier for kids. - How can you possibly know the internal working and players, player development from EVERY club. More conjecture to be argumentative.

Facts:
FCV does not offer anything that 6 other clubs can’t also offer while staying closer to home and continue to play with established friends. - Wow...while you can compare clubs and offering, there isn't a club anywhere in NoVa that trains like FCV. I hear it from parents all the time that come in for tryouts. FCV is still getting stragglers from MU coming for tryouts as of this week. If a player wants to play near home and play with friends, that is fine. But the training the would get is not even close in comparison.

Facts:
Kids still like playing in HS. And FCV lost several players mid season to HS alone. - I do not know of ANY DA players that left to play HS. Some may not come to FCV for that reason, and that is a personal choice that is OK. Every player is different.

Facts:
FCV sold because the writing is on the wall if they stay in Loudoun.

- And you finish off with conjecture. Unless you are CZ, STJ owner or one of the lawyers involved, you have no idea why the club was sold. I have personally heard why the club was sold and it not b/c of the made up reason you state above.

Don't hate on FCV because the club has better teams at the DA level. Some kids fit in better at other clubs, nothing wrong with that. But if you want to get looked at by college coaches, FCV is the club in this area to do that. Regardless if the player is 12, 18, 1, or 3.

False. In the history of FCV DA, players 12 and 18 have never received a D1 offer. I am not sure they would be in the top 5 on another club but those players actually get D1 offers. So if those FCV players are better it is pretty obvious they are making a mistake in staying.

So the links that were shared yesterday are false? Because they show plenty of kids 12-18 getting D1 offers. Do you really think that people are going to believe you versus the actual data that is on the Internet? FCV is different from every other club for the simple fact that it is BY FAR the strongest DA/ECNL option in the area. That may change but it won’t change because you hope it will. Top players want to play with top players. The big fish in the small pond isn’t for everyone. Finally, with respect to tryout numbers at FCV, less people are coming out to the older age group tryout for the same reason, there are already a ton of top players there and breaking in would be extremely difficult. Very easy to understand unless you are obsessed with coming up with crazy reasons to hope for FCVs demise.

And to do he poster talking about dilution. FCV, today, is BY FAR, the least affected. Regional ECNL means nothing for FCV DA. FCV DA has become a destination - for top players and that is exactly what the top level (currently called GDA) should be about. It requires more sacrifices. If you want to play at the top during the crucial older years, you don’t care what ECNL or regional ecnl clubs you’re driving by to get to the top club(s). Ecnl is a great second tier option especially for those that want to play high school. And certainly some top players are there. But the heaviest concentrations are and should be at the DA. It’s funny too that ecnl is promoting high school. Because before GDA the top teams weren’t exactly encouraging high school soccer being prioritizing over club.

Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, please you're embarrassing yourself by even posting here. What was the matriculation at the 07 age group then for example. IF FCV is the destination you claim it to be then how many outside kids are on the rising 07 DA team?

Full time DA? 1 or 2. LOL. But less than 10 came to tryouts so not surprising.

That sounds like a lot less than 70 just a few years ago. That also does not sound like a destination either. Of course some people may have been cautious with the uncertainty regarding the St James and potential practice locations and all so that could explain the lower turnout.

Oh, wait, offers went out and deposits were collected before that news broke....

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This thread is an embarrasing embarrasment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is an embarrasing embarrasment.

Then stick to twitter!

As Mr./Ms. Congeniality puts it.

[Anonymous]

The days of fcv pulling from all over nova are done. The existing teams are really good but that trend won’t keep. GDA top platform? Not in this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The days of fcv pulling from all over nova are done. The existing teams are really good but that trend won’t keep. GDA top platform? Not in this area.

Stop trolling!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The days of fcv pulling from all over nova are done. The existing teams are really good but that trend won’t keep. GDA top platform? Not in this area.

Well then you should hold a press conference announcing that YOU have declared as much. I am sure you are a big influencer in the soccer world so make it happen!

I will just stick to our family making our own decisions and not worry about some disenchanted bozo on a message board.

[Anonymous]

Don't take the bait!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't take the bait!

Too late. The benchwarmers already signed up. Hook, line and sinker!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't take the bait!

Too late. The benchwarmers already signed up. Hook, line and sinker!

Not at FCV but consider yourself lucky that they already signed up at FCV. You wouldn't want any of your team to lose playing time if the subs came over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Don't take the bait!

Too late. The benchwarmers already signed up. Hook, line and sinker!

Not at FCV but consider yourself lucky that they already signed up at FCV. You wouldn't want any of your team to lose playing time if the subs came over.

Of course you aren't. Nobody on DCUM would ever admit to being at FCV. Too embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone think Bobby reads DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think Bobby reads DCUM?

Not only does he read the forum he is actively posting.