FCPS investigating alleged instances of staff arranging abortions for students

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happens in situations when the parent or guardian could be potentially abusive towards the child? Or a history of abuse?

If there has been abuse and the child disclosed that to the social worker, the social worker is a mandatory reporter and should notify CPS.
If the social worker WAS aware of abuse and did not report it to CPS, that's just another thing she did wrong.

"Could be potential[url]ly?" What in the world?

Following this line of thought, the same goes for the teacher Zenaida Perez and any other teachers she told. If they suspected abuse or neglect, they were required to contact CPS. Too many people knew without calling the authorities.

Teacher reported to her superior.

Which does not absolve them of the responsibility of going to CPS. The law is crystal clear on this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) tells 7News Reporter Nick Minock that they are launching an investigation into claims that school staff arranged abortions for students and didn’t tell their parents."

There needs to be more done than the school system investigating itself. This is wild.


https://wjla.com/news/local/student-abortions-fairfax-county-public-schools-investigation-staff-arranged-reproductive-health-fcps-centerville-high-school-minors-taxfunded-virginia-employee-parents-sex-education-regulation-2504

State Police is now investigating. What if the victim died on the table?? Sounds like people may be going to jail.

It was an abortion, by definition the victim dies on the table.

[Anonymous]

One of the articles said the girl had physical issues after the abortion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I get that this is posted by a Republican trying to stir up trouble in an election year but let's not forget that this happened under a Republican governor. What would Winsome Earles-Searles have done differently from Glenn Youngkin that would have prevented this from happening? Oh, nothing.

This. It's election season. Pay attention people. They are trying to stir up controversy with those; transgender rights (again!); the failed abduction at Fair Oaks; TJ admissions and ranking (again!) and now Trump is requesting voter data for Va to see how people voted in various districts so he can help his party.

The GOP has run on outrage politics since 1994. It's how their media ecosystem makes money but it also how we've ended up divided and with MAGA monsters. Be ware.

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Outrage! Rinse! Repeat!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) tells 7News Reporter Nick Minock that they are launching an investigation into claims that school staff arranged abortions for students and didn’t tell their parents."

There needs to be more done than the school system investigating itself. This is wild.


https://wjla.com/news/local/student-abortions-fairfax-county-public-schools-investigation-staff-arranged-reproductive-health-fcps-centerville-high-school-minors-taxfunded-virginia-employee-parents-sex-education-regulation-2504

State Police is now investigating. What if the victim died on the table?? Sounds like people may be going to jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) tells 7News Reporter Nick Minock that they are launching an investigation into claims that school staff arranged abortions for students and didn’t tell their parents."

There needs to be more done than the school system investigating itself. This is wild.


https://wjla.com/news/local/student-abortions-fairfax-county-public-schools-investigation-staff-arranged-reproductive-health-fcps-centerville-high-school-minors-taxfunded-virginia-employee-parents-sex-education-regulation-2504

State Police is now investigating. What if the victim died on the table?? Sounds like people may be going to jail.

It was an abortion, by definition the victim dies on the table.

True. It could have been two victims if the young mother died, for any reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get that this is posted by a Republican trying to stir up trouble in an election year but let's not forget that this happened under a Republican governor. What would Winsome Earles-Searles have done differently from Glenn Youngkin that would have prevented this from happening? Oh, nothing.

This. It's election season. Pay attention people. They are trying to stir up controversy with those; transgender rights (again!); the failed abduction at Fair Oaks; TJ admissions and ranking (again!) and now Trump is requesting voter data for Va to see how people voted in various districts so he can help his party.

The GOP has run on outrage politics since 1994. It's how their media ecosystem makes money but it also how we've ended up divided and with MAGA monsters. Be ware.

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Outrage! Rinse! Repeat!

Should we all just be complacent in all of this just so we don’t tip the scales in GOP’s favor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's protocol for staff in these situations. This wasn't it. I'm pro-choice but if this student was in an unsafe situation, as some people have suggested, that's a CPS issue and you document accordingly. You're not supposed to wing it and hope no one finds out.

Exactly. Heads will roll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) tells 7News Reporter Nick Minock that they are launching an investigation into claims that school staff arranged abortions for students and didn’t tell their parents."

There needs to be more done than the school system investigating itself. This is wild.


https://wjla.com/news/local/student-abortions-fairfax-county-public-schools-investigation-staff-arranged-reproductive-health-fcps-centerville-high-school-minors-taxfunded-virginia-employee-parents-sex-education-regulation-2504

School staff fancies itself as the “real” guardians of our children. Parents beware.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most serious charge isn't getting as much attention, that one of the two girls did not want the abortion and that she was coerced.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter4/section18.2-32.2/

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ABORTION IS MAJOR SURGERY.

No, it is not. In many cases it is not even surgery at all; it is medicine. For *surgical* first trimester abortions, it is a minor procedure. It does not typically involve anesthesia beyond twilight sedation. A colonoscopy is more involved, requiring general anesthesia typically. A root canal takes 10 times as long. I've known women to go back to work that afternoon; not comfortably or ideally, as there is some bleeding/discharge afterward typically, but it's doable. It's not major surgery by any stretch.

That said, I wouldn't want my child to have one without me knowing...but if my stepchild who is all grown now did not feel like she could come to me or her mom or dad in HS when she got pregnant, I would be very grateful for the kindness and care of a trusted, safe adult who could help her through it. I would be grateful she was not totally alone and that there was a dedicated enough school staff member who'd go out of her way to help.

The girl was 5 months pregnant. I’ve had a d&e at 5 months. It is major surgery and required general anesthesia and follow up appointments. You just don’t know what you’re talking about.

I was responding to a general comment that said, "Abortion is major surgery." In general, no, it is not.

Even terminations at 5 months are generally not major surgery. They are still done mostly in outpatient settings, sometimes over several days. But no, still not major cutting. Yes, discomfort and bleeding, but not major abdominal incisions or anything. Significantly more complex than a 1st trimester procedure, but still not "major surgery".

Again, I wouldn't want my 17 year old to have this surgery without me knowing. But if judicial bypass allowed it, and if she could not tell me then for whatever reason, I would be infinitely grateful that a trusted adult at school helped her.

[Anonymous]

Will people stop saying that this is some GOP plot! There are FCPS and State rules and regulations having to do with this kind of issue and they do not include transporting a kid to a clinic. What is also horrific is the reported retaliation to the whistleblowers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will people stop saying that this is some GOP plot! There are FCPS and State rules and regulations having to do with this kind of issue and they do not include transporting a kid to a clinic. What is also horrific is the reported retaliation to the whistleblowers.

Amen.

[Anonymous]

When someone I know had an abortion, it definitely was major surgery. She needed a full week off from work afterwards.

It really depends on the situation, but I doubt too many people feel just fine afterwards.

Abortion is not a “normal” thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most serious charge isn't getting as much attention, that one of the two girls did not want the abortion and that she was coerced.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter4/section18.2-32.2/

+1000000

ABORTION IS MAJOR SURGERY.

No, it is not. In many cases it is not even surgery at all; it is medicine. For *surgical* first trimester abortions, it is a minor procedure. It does not typically involve anesthesia beyond twilight sedation. A colonoscopy is more involved, requiring general anesthesia typically. A root canal takes 10 times as long. I've known women to go back to work that afternoon; not comfortably or ideally, as there is some bleeding/discharge afterward typically, but it's doable. It's not major surgery by any stretch.

That said, I wouldn't want my child to have one without me knowing...but if my stepchild who is all grown now did not feel like she could come to me or her mom or dad in HS when she got pregnant, I would be very grateful for the kindness and care of a trusted, safe adult who could help her through it. I would be grateful she was not totally alone and that there was a dedicated enough school staff member who'd go out of her way to help.

The girl was 5 months pregnant. I’ve had a d&e at 5 months. It is major surgery and required general anesthesia and follow up appointments. You just don’t know what you’re talking about.

I was responding to a general comment that said, "Abortion is major surgery." In general, no, it is not.

Even terminations at 5 months are generally not major surgery. They are still done mostly in outpatient settings, sometimes over several days. But no, still not major cutting. Yes, discomfort and bleeding, but not major abdominal incisions or anything. Significantly more complex than a 1st trimester procedure, but still not "major surgery".

Again, I wouldn't want my 17 year old to have this surgery without me knowing. But if judicial bypass allowed it, and if she could not tell me then for whatever reason, I would be infinitely grateful that a trusted adult at school helped her.

Any attempts to minimize the physical and emotional implications of an abortion can’t negate the facts:
Abortion risks include immediate complications like heavy bleeding, infection, and injury to organs, as well as potential long-term risks such as increased risk of future premature births, certain mental health issues, and possible infertility from rare complications like scarring.

Emotional experiences following an abortion vary, and while many individuals feel relief, common emotions also include sadness, guilt, anxiety, and a sense of loss, which are normal responses to a significant life event. For some, there can be prolonged or severe distress, including depression, anxiety, sleep problems, and suicidal thoughts. These negative reactions are often linked to factors like pre-existing mental health issues, inadequate support, or pressure to have the abortion. 

Furthermore, not all parents are willing to outsource to others the decision making process and the material and emotional support their child needs during a crisis of this magnitude. Just because the students were Hispanic whose families weren’t as present as others’ in the students’ lives, it doesn’t mean they couldn’t have gotten the support they needed from their loved ones. It wasn’t for FCPS to usurp the parental role and get involved the way they did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most serious charge isn't getting as much attention, that one of the two girls did not want the abortion and that she was coerced.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter4/section18.2-32.2/

+1000000

ABORTION IS MAJOR SURGERY.

No, it is not. In many cases it is not even surgery at all; it is medicine. For *surgical* first trimester abortions, it is a minor procedure. It does not typically involve anesthesia beyond twilight sedation. A colonoscopy is more involved, requiring general anesthesia typically. A root canal takes 10 times as long. I've known women to go back to work that afternoon; not comfortably or ideally, as there is some bleeding/discharge afterward typically, but it's doable. It's not major surgery by any stretch.

That said, I wouldn't want my child to have one without me knowing...but if my stepchild who is all grown now did not feel like she could come to me or her mom or dad in HS when she got pregnant, I would be very grateful for the kindness and care of a trusted, safe adult who could help her through it. I would be grateful she was not totally alone and that there was a dedicated enough school staff member who'd go out of her way to help.

The girl was 5 months pregnant. I’ve had a d&e at 5 months. It is major surgery and required general anesthesia and follow up appointments. You just don’t know what you’re talking about.

I was responding to a general comment that said, "Abortion is major surgery." In general, no, it is not.

Even terminations at 5 months are generally not major surgery. They are still done mostly in outpatient settings, sometimes over several days. But no, still not major cutting. Yes, discomfort and bleeding, but not major abdominal incisions or anything. Significantly more complex than a 1st trimester procedure, but still not "major surgery".

Again, I wouldn't want my 17 year old to have this surgery without me knowing. But if judicial bypass allowed it, and if she could not tell me then for whatever reason, I would be infinitely grateful that a trusted adult at school helped her.

Any attempts to minimize the physical and emotional implications of an abortion can’t negate the facts:
Abortion risks include immediate complications like heavy bleeding, infection, and injury to organs, as well as potential long-term risks such as increased risk of future premature births, certain mental health issues, and possible infertility from rare complications like scarring.

Emotional experiences following an abortion vary, and while many individuals feel relief, common emotions also include sadness, guilt, anxiety, and a sense of loss, which are normal responses to a significant life event. For some, there can be prolonged or severe distress, including depression, anxiety, sleep problems, and suicidal thoughts. These negative reactions are often linked to factors like pre-existing mental health issues, inadequate support, or pressure to have the abortion. 

Furthermore, not all parents are willing to outsource to others the decision making process and the material and emotional support their child needs during a crisis of this magnitude. Just because the students were Hispanic whose families weren’t as present as others’ in the students’ lives, it doesn’t mean they couldn’t have gotten the support they needed from their loved ones. It wasn’t for FCPS to usurp the parental role and get involved the way they did.

Wait, wait, wait, are you saying that FCPS was giving abortions to Hispanic students but would not have done the same for white kids? Effectively this would mean that FCPS is practicing eugenics???