US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one here seeing the benefit of having more URM medical doctors in our society? For years, mostly white, male doctors have learned how diseases affect white males. More diverse groups of physicians, researchers have discovered how patients of color are affected by certain ailments. I am not saying that white male doctors have not done research on the health of URMs. The same probably happens in other areas of research. I am not an expert on any of this, just commenting on a few articles I have read throughout the years.

yes, but most URM medical doctors do not want to serve the URM communities. They don't take the jobs taking care of the poor.
I work at a federally qualified health center in DC and most of our doctors and NPs are white. We can't get black doctors to take care of poor black people.

Can’t we just have the smartest and most hardworking people become physicians and health care providers? I don’t care what their background is.

If they provide equal levels of care, sure. Doesn’t happen in reality though.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I'm new to the United States. What is the discrimination against Asians? Is it that they're proportionately more qualified than others so less get in? And is it a win for whites because they are the majority so they presumably get in less when other races get into these schools? For white people -- could it just be that everyone just can't get into the school b/c of the limited amount of seats, no matter what? As for Asians, the same thing? What happens when Harvard is, like, 50% Asian? Will there be an issue then?

Oh please. "What is the discrimination?" There was evidence in the record that admissions committees were giving Asians lower "personality" ratings after the interviewers who actually met them scored them on par with everyone else. Harvard never explained this. There are a lot of statements by these schools quoted in the opinion. The intent was clear. The question was whether it crossed the line into being unconstitutional and the court said yes.

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If you want to see a white liberal drop the pretense that they care about systemic racism and injustice, just tell them that their privately tutored kid didn’t get into whatever “elite” school they were hoping for. If you want to make an immigrant family adopt a Klansman’s view of the intelligence, culture, and work ethic of Black folks, tell them that their kid’s standardized test scores are not enough to guarantee entry into ivy-draped halls of power.

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Colleges will see a rise in less talented Black athletes on rosters. You can stockpile benchwarmers as a backdoor means of keeping the diversity numbers up.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I'm new to the United States. What is the discrimination against Asians? Is it that they're proportionately more qualified than others so less get in? And is it a win for whites because they are the majority so they presumably get in less when other races get into these schools? For white people -- could it just be that everyone just can't get into the school b/c of the limited amount of seats, no matter what? As for Asians, the same thing? What happens when Harvard is, like, 50% Asian? Will there be an issue then?

Oh please. "What is the discrimination?" There was evidence in the record that admissions committees were giving Asians lower "personality" ratings after the interviewers who actually met them scored them on par with everyone else. Harvard never explained this. There are a lot of statements by these schools quoted in the opinion. The intent was clear. The question was whether it crossed the line into being unconstitutional and the court said yes.

How could we prove that a number of Asians were Chinese nationals who were college educated adults posing as 18 year olds?

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I feel very emotional today even though I knew this was coming. I am asian and my child is asian and white, and yet I still felt overcome with sadness when I heard the opinion today. In particular, Chief Justice Roberts carving out an exception to allow affirmative action for military academies only and Justice Brown's dissent calling out the hypocrisy of the majority opinion wanting people of color to be recruited in "the bunkers but not the board room" was especially strong. And don't get me started on the irony of Justice Thomas' personal narrative arguing against it.

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Anonymous wrote:Asian, White and Black students enter a baking competition. Black students have their hands tied behind their back. Asian and White bake beautiful cakes. They place first and second. Although there is an award for third place, the Black student does not get it because they did not finish their cake. Everyone says, well it's the Black person's fault for not producing a great cake. Yet, it's incredible that they were able to produce any edible cake at all. They say "Look, the goal was clear! Just bake a cake. Easy! We did it and won!"

Everyone who is celebrating this decision is proud of their status and privilege. Many Black students enter college and excel - despite the fact that they have had every barrier possible thrown their way. Affirmative Action was a system for giving credit to people who have been and continue to be historically marginalized.

Now, fewer deserving Black students will be allowed access because the criteria they are being judged on is not attainable to many of them.

It's a sad, sad day!

What made Blacks have more barrier than Asians?????????????????

If you have to ask that question, then you really need some American history lessons. Go read some books on Black history. Look at how the jail system was created to house Black males. Look at the 0% proficiency in math and science in Baltimore schools. Look at my parents and everyone in their generation who were denied housing, jobs, credit and in many cases dignity. Look at the Lynch papers - look at the people in charge through the years to followed very specific requirements to ensure Black people did not advance. And then look at Black immigrants from anywhere in the World and how they come here and excel. Being born Black in American is more than a barrier. The Black person has to shift their entire life trajectory to overcome systems put in place to keep them down. Asians and immigrants have created their own systems to ensure they can "beat the system" in place. These same systems are not possible for many in the Black community who are struggling with systems that keep them down. You really need to read more about history.

Sounds like mostly their own fault.  
Most of the Asian countries were ruins 50 years ago from war and stuff.  
Immigrants came from there with huge language and cultural barriers.

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Hopeful people can now stop blaming black and Latinos for not getting in now.

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The best school option for any white kid in DC will be Banneker high school.
it's an application high school that is about 95% black.
Go there, do well---BAM. Ivy admit.
I know a few white kids there now. They are golden--beyond golden.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopeful people can now stop blaming black and Latinos for not getting in now.

They will find someone else to blame.

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Thank you President Biden for overturning Roe v Wade andAffirmative Action, and bringing back student loans all in the same term! Amazing accomplishment for all his voters!

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What made Blacks have more barrier than Asians?????????????????

Ok, Asians. Let's imagine: 80% of your fathers will be jailed tomorrow (maybe for driving their car, mowing their own lawn or studying in their college dorm common area ). And because they are now that your father is in the jail system, economists will tell you that the chance you will be arrested just increased by 30-40%. Meanwhile, your friend just got shot and killed. You are angry, it's hard to study or even think. You go to school but cannot concentrate. People are telling you that you amount to nothing. The expectations for your life are low. Now, if that was the case, do you think the college numbers would be as high????????????????????

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you President Biden for overturning Roe v Wade andAffirmative Action, and bringing back student loans all in the same term! Amazing accomplishment for all his voters!

Are you OK?

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Yes and yes

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Note that the Supreme Court did not ban gender consciousness in college admissions. Nor did it ban legacy consciousness, wealth consciousness, geographic consciousness, or athletic consciousness. Race, and only race, is the thing the conservatives don’t want colleges and universities to look at. Because race is the card white people use that never gets declined. It is their most powerful characteristic, the one through which all else is possible.

White males continue to have a preference in admissions as colleges seek to balance the gender scale.