BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

You mean normal people. People get Covid and will continue to get Covid no matter what you do. And for most it is mild and they move on, like any other illness. Some feel super bad for several days. Sorry but that is just how the chips fall. Hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, very few need medical attention. Most have accepted this and decided that don’t want to live in a mask and have to keep up the isolations/quarantines. I live in an east coast city and masks are no longer the norm when our anymore. Sure some do, but most have accepted the risk and are ok with it

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

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This thread is very reminiscent of "BA.2 surge hitting US in April/May" from earlier this year: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1044166.page

Remember how terrible that surge ended up being? No? Me neither.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

My father has no immune system at the moment due to cancer. Also due to cancer, he has to leave his home on a regular basis (weekly) for appointments, PT, OT, etc. Eventually he did get Covid (in an doctor’s office setting) but with vaccination + Paxlovid, the illness was manageable.

We are doing what we can to keep him safe, but at this stage of COVID, it is not the broader society’s job to do that.

I don't think that's what the PP was talking about. An earlier poster was talking about the societal cost of COVID caution and individual assessment of risk. I think that the PP was saying that when you have dealt with chronic health issues, your risk assessment looks different, as does your willingness to accept safety measures. It's easy to roll the dice when you are healthy. It's also easy to give up riskier activities when you are an adult in an acute phase of illness. What's incredibly difficult, especially for those of us who are parents and either have chronic health issues ourselves or have children with chronic health issues, is balancing acceptable risk with normal human need to socialize and live life. Trust me, if you've run yourself ragged scheduling and taking a child to multiple appointments every week for years on end, always staying positive to the point where you neglect your own health, testing when sick or exposed to COVID, and wearing a mask indoors feels like nothing compared to possibility of adding another health problem to the mix, even if the risk of that isn't great.

That posters follow up posts indicate otherwise.

Also I would be very careful to not presume what others are going through. I do have kids and my dad lives with us. This is his second round of cancer and we are dealing with brain damages and major mobility issues (cannot stand or walk). And just like his first round of cancer, pre-COVID, certain illnesses are dangerous at certain points of treatment. For those of us dealing with major illnesses pre-COVID, this is nothing new. It is not the responsibility of my neighbors, or the person next to me at the grocery store to keep my father safe. That is my responsibility, just like it was pre-COVID. And just like pre-COVID, it’s exhausting. But again, that is not everyone else’s problem at this point in the pandemic.

I feel sorry for you-maybe if they rest of society cooperated you wouldnt be so exhausted all the time! You shouldn’t have to just accept this.

Look, if society really cared about people like me or my dad, it’s not COVID restrictions that would make a difference. For people like me and my dad - for those who are truly sick, and their caregivers, we need more options for care. We need more than 30 ambulatory cab credits a year, because after that they are $100/trip. We need more than 10 approved PT sessions at a time. We need to not be rejected by every caregiving service because someone is easily deemed a fall risk. We need to not wait months for appointments (and COVID restrictions make this much worse).

For those of us out there dealing with truly immunocompromised patients, or are truly immunocompromised themselves, COVID restrictions made getting care horrendous. I would love if society cooperated with people like us but if you think donning a masks and imposing restrictions is the help we need, you are wrong. We can easily manage that part on our own.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

You mean normal people. People get Covid and will continue to get Covid no matter what you do. And for most it is mild and they move on, like any other illness. Some feel super bad for several days. Sorry but that is just how the chips fall. Hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, very few need medical attention. Most have accepted this and decided that don’t want to live in a mask and have to keep up the isolations/quarantines. I live in an east coast city and masks are no longer the norm when our anymore. Sure some do, but most have accepted the risk and are ok with it

You are a very selfish person. But, you know that. I am not ok with you taking the risks and giving it to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

it did. I had a cold and a fever. wow, horrific!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

DP. So you think that all good, non-crummy people should be masking *outdoors* as well, so as to avoid giving it to you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

DP. So you think that all good, non-crummy people should be masking *outdoors* as well, so as to avoid giving it to you?

If you engage in behavior that puts others at risk, yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

it did. I had a cold and a fever. wow, horrific!!!!

Since it’s no big deal, come over. Happy to share it with you. It’s pretty miserable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

DP. So you think that all good, non-crummy people should be masking *outdoors* as well, so as to avoid giving it to you?

Obviously! Because her spouse is definitely following all of her rules when she’s not there and would never do something like go in a friends house or take a child to the bathroom at the park.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

Kind of sounds like your masks didn't work.

Also, come ON, you are blaming other people for getting covid when you are doing a ton of things that expose you to covid? Please.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

DP. So you think that all good, non-crummy people should be masking *outdoors* as well, so as to avoid giving it to you?

If you engage in behavior that puts others at risk, yes.

Getting covid = not being cautious enough yourself about covid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

DP. So you think that all good, non-crummy people should be masking *outdoors* as well, so as to avoid giving it to you?

If you engage in behavior that puts others at risk, yes.

You mean such as getting near other people outdoors? Do your spouse and kids mask outdoors as well? And you think they still caught Covid from some unmasked person? That tells me their masks weren't well-fitting enough.

As your example shows, anybody can and will get Covid, unless you entirely stop interacting with others. The people your family caught it from may not be any less cautious than you are. And if they were, your family wasn't protecting themselves well enough, if your goal really is not to catch it. You cannot expect society to abide by your level of caution in perpetuity, because this virus is here to stay forever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe our new normal is people don’t live as long as they used to. I’m ok with this, myself included.

I do not believe you for 2 seconds. This has been a common platitude from the far right 20 somethings who have no risk.

Believe whatever you want. The majority of people have accepting they may get Covid and have accepted the small risk of complications that comes with it. Do you never go anywhere? Most people aren’t masking, aren’t testing and have moved on and accepted covid

And, crummy people like you end up giving it to people like me. Thanks.

Wouldn’t have happened if you had stayed home and masked harder. You do have some agency in this.

I have not left my house in several weeks. The rare occasion I go out, like for groceries I always mask. Spouse and kids don’t go anywhere indoors so they had to have gotten it outdoors at an activity. Good try. If it happens to me, it will to you too.

Kind of sounds like your masks didn't work.

Also, come ON, you are blaming other people for getting covid when you are doing a ton of things that expose you to covid? Please.

Except we aren’t doing a ton of things. No travel, no camps except virtual, no friends or family, no indoor anything. It was from one outdoor activity and I haven’t been all year. I have not left my house in weeks.