Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m getting irritated,

Really irritated.

Where are the boundary maps for Skyview.

They have TOLD US that it will be June and we know they will not apply until Fall 2027. You'll have a year to prepare.

The only question is whether opted in kids will get bussing or not. I, personally, would not have opted my kid in unless my kid was at a school that was included in all of the boundary scenarios presented earlier this year.

No, they said they’d vote on options in June, which to me implies that the community should receive options by now.

I'm sure they learned their lesson from last time. They won't be giving options this time. They will present one plan with the minimum amount of community input time required and try to stick to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m getting irritated,

Really irritated.

Where are the boundary maps for Skyview.

They have TOLD US that it will be June and we know they will not apply until Fall 2027. You'll have a year to prepare.

The only question is whether opted in kids will get bussing or not. I, personally, would not have opted my kid in unless my kid was at a school that was included in all of the boundary scenarios presented earlier this year.

No, they said they’d vote on options in June, which to me implies that the community should receive options by now.

I'm sure they learned their lesson from last time. They won't be giving options this time. They will present one plan with the minimum amount of community input time required and try to stick to it.

This is what I think is going to happen. I also think it will include Crossfield, and anyone from Fox Mill that wants to do AP can opt in to Skyview.

[Anonymous]

It will definitely be interesting to see what they do. A recent communication mentioned wanting to align the middle and high school pathways. So they would need to move Crossfield to Franklin if it stays at Oakton, and Fox Mill to Hughes if it stays at South Lakes. The question is then who moves to Skyview and does their middle school change as a result? I still think Lee’s Corner is in play. But moving them to Skyview would require a move to Carson for middle school and I’m not totally convinced they would do that, so who knows. We all know the simplest thing would be to move Crossfield to Skyview. It would not require changes to middle schools for multiple elementary schools. But we know the people fighting it don’t care about that and would rather have a bunch of other kids moved around so they can get what they want.

[Anonymous]

They need to take less community input and do what is best for fcps as a whole. Less on transportation = closest communities. Less adjustments = students already at Carson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will definitely be interesting to see what they do. A recent communication mentioned wanting to align the middle and high school pathways. So they would need to move Crossfield to Franklin if it stays at Oakton, and Fox Mill to Hughes if it stays at South Lakes. The question is then who moves to Skyview and does their middle school change as a result? I still think Lee’s Corner is in play. But moving them to Skyview would require a move to Carson for middle school and I’m not totally convinced they would do that, so who knows. We all know the simplest thing would be to move Crossfield to Skyview. It would not require changes to middle schools for multiple elementary schools. But we know the people fighting it don’t care about that and would rather have a bunch of other kids moved around so they can get what they want.

Since Lees Corner feeds Chantilly, and Rocky Run is significantly underutilized, it seems like they will either get aligned to Skyview OR move to Rocky Run as a feeder middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will definitely be interesting to see what they do. A recent communication mentioned wanting to align the middle and high school pathways. So they would need to move Crossfield to Franklin if it stays at Oakton, and Fox Mill to Hughes if it stays at South Lakes. The question is then who moves to Skyview and does their middle school change as a result? I still think Lee’s Corner is in play. But moving them to Skyview would require a move to Carson for middle school and I’m not totally convinced they would do that, so who knows. We all know the simplest thing would be to move Crossfield to Skyview. It would not require changes to middle schools for multiple elementary schools. But we know the people fighting it don’t care about that and would rather have a bunch of other kids moved around so they can get what they want.

Since Lees Corner feeds Chantilly, and Rocky Run is significantly underutilized, it seems like they will either get aligned to Skyview OR move to Rocky Run as a feeder middle school.

Armfield Farms backs up to Franklin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They need to take less community input and do what is best for fcps as a whole. Less on transportation = closest communities. Less adjustments = students already at Carson.

They stopped thinking about what was best for FCPS when they bought KAA without truly understanding what they were purchasing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to take less community input and do what is best for fcps as a whole. Less on transportation = closest communities. Less adjustments = students already at Carson.

They stopped thinking about what was best for FCPS when they bought KAA without truly understanding what they were purchasing.

FCPS has a "possibilities" fairy problem and has had one for decades. Reid, the SB, ... all looking to burnish their resumes for the next job by dreaming up whatever strikes their fancy. JI, FLES, IB, ... are far more exciting than making the buses run on time or maintaining hundreds of school buildings. If the operations people had been able to keep the possibilities fairies away from KAA before they'd gutted it, FCPS would be getting exactly what this part of the County has needed ever since they built Carson - a community HS for about 2000 students.

And they'd have gotten the community HS for a song. People have been treating the cost of KAA as if land were free and freely available now and forever. The reality is all available large plots of land in Western Fairfax/Eastern Loudoun are getting snapped up as soon as they become available for $3M+ an acre - GW just sold their property in Loudoun for $4M per. Use $3M, the land itself would have cost $120M, the building was only $30M.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to take less community input and do what is best for fcps as a whole. Less on transportation = closest communities. Less adjustments = students already at Carson.

They stopped thinking about what was best for FCPS when they bought KAA without truly understanding what they were purchasing.

FCPS has a "possibilities" fairy problem and has had one for decades. Reid, the SB, ... all looking to burnish their resumes for the next job by dreaming up whatever strikes their fancy. JI, FLES, IB, ... are far more exciting than making the buses run on time or maintaining hundreds of school buildings. If the operations people had been able to keep the possibilities fairies away from KAA before they'd gutted it, FCPS would be getting exactly what this part of the County has needed ever since they built Carson - a community HS for about 2000 students.

And they'd have gotten the community HS for a song. People have been treating the cost of KAA as if land were free and freely available now and forever. The reality is all available large plots of land in Western Fairfax/Eastern Loudoun are getting snapped up as soon as they become available for $3M+ an acre - GW just sold their property in Loudoun for $4M per. Use $3M, the land itself would have cost $120M, the building was only $30M.

That’s literally what Skyview is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to take less community input and do what is best for fcps as a whole. Less on transportation = closest communities. Less adjustments = students already at Carson.

They stopped thinking about what was best for FCPS when they bought KAA without truly understanding what they were purchasing.

FCPS has a "possibilities" fairy problem and has had one for decades. Reid, the SB, ... all looking to burnish their resumes for the next job by dreaming up whatever strikes their fancy. JI, FLES, IB, ... are far more exciting than making the buses run on time or maintaining hundreds of school buildings. If the operations people had been able to keep the possibilities fairies away from KAA before they'd gutted it, FCPS would be getting exactly what this part of the County has needed ever since they built Carson - a community HS for about 2000 students.

And they'd have gotten the community HS for a song. People have been treating the cost of KAA as if land were free and freely available now and forever. The reality is all available large plots of land in Western Fairfax/Eastern Loudoun are getting snapped up as soon as they become available for $3M+ an acre - GW just sold their property in Loudoun for $4M per. Use $3M, the land itself would have cost $120M, the building was only $30M.

That’s literally what Skyview is.

I think PP is trying to say that the people enamored with the magnet school idea are keeping some infrastructure in the building that limits its usefulness as a community high school. If you've ever been in there, the setup is much more like a college campus building than a typical high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to take less community input and do what is best for fcps as a whole. Less on transportation = closest communities. Less adjustments = students already at Carson.

They stopped thinking about what was best for FCPS when they bought KAA without truly understanding what they were purchasing.

FCPS has a "possibilities" fairy problem and has had one for decades. Reid, the SB, ... all looking to burnish their resumes for the next job by dreaming up whatever strikes their fancy. JI, FLES, IB, ... are far more exciting than making the buses run on time or maintaining hundreds of school buildings. If the operations people had been able to keep the possibilities fairies away from KAA before they'd gutted it, FCPS would be getting exactly what this part of the County has needed ever since they built Carson - a community HS for about 2000 students.

And they'd have gotten the community HS for a song. People have been treating the cost of KAA as if land were free and freely available now and forever. The reality is all available large plots of land in Western Fairfax/Eastern Loudoun are getting snapped up as soon as they become available for $3M+ an acre - GW just sold their property in Loudoun for $4M per. Use $3M, the land itself would have cost $120M, the building was only $30M.

That’s literally what Skyview is.

I think PP is trying to say that the people enamored with the magnet school idea are keeping some infrastructure in the building that limits its usefulness as a community high school. If you've ever been in there, the setup is much more like a college campus building than a typical high school.

OP - Yes. And enamored people "making their mark" has been an FCPS issue for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to take less community input and do what is best for fcps as a whole. Less on transportation = closest communities. Less adjustments = students already at Carson.

They stopped thinking about what was best for FCPS when they bought KAA without truly understanding what they were purchasing.

FCPS has a "possibilities" fairy problem and has had one for decades. Reid, the SB, ... all looking to burnish their resumes for the next job by dreaming up whatever strikes their fancy. JI, FLES, IB, ... are far more exciting than making the buses run on time or maintaining hundreds of school buildings. If the operations people had been able to keep the possibilities fairies away from KAA before they'd gutted it, FCPS would be getting exactly what this part of the County has needed ever since they built Carson - a community HS for about 2000 students.

And they'd have gotten the community HS for a song. People have been treating the cost of KAA as if land were free and freely available now and forever. The reality is all available large plots of land in Western Fairfax/Eastern Loudoun are getting snapped up as soon as they become available for $3M+ an acre - GW just sold their property in Loudoun for $4M per. Use $3M, the land itself would have cost $120M, the building was only $30M.

That’s literally what Skyview is.

I think PP is trying to say that the people enamored with the magnet school idea are keeping some infrastructure in the building that limits its usefulness as a community high school. If you've ever been in there, the setup is much more like a college campus building than a typical high school.

Yes, this is why I like it. Anyone know current enrollment numbers for 9th grade? I just want to make sure my kid can do all the advanced Math APs

[Anonymous]

So are the current cost estimates predicated on tearing out a lot of what currently makes the building look like a “college campus building” and replacing it with traditional classrooms?

Has there ever been a clear presentation on what work needs to be done and what the real price tag will be for Skyview to serve as a traditional high school for 2000 kids?

Or will they try to hide the ball until after the 2027 School Board elections?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to take less community input and do what is best for fcps as a whole. Less on transportation = closest communities. Less adjustments = students already at Carson.

They stopped thinking about what was best for FCPS when they bought KAA without truly understanding what they were purchasing.

FCPS has a "possibilities" fairy problem and has had one for decades. Reid, the SB, ... all looking to burnish their resumes for the next job by dreaming up whatever strikes their fancy. JI, FLES, IB, ... are far more exciting than making the buses run on time or maintaining hundreds of school buildings. If the operations people had been able to keep the possibilities fairies away from KAA before they'd gutted it, FCPS would be getting exactly what this part of the County has needed ever since they built Carson - a community HS for about 2000 students.

And they'd have gotten the community HS for a song. People have been treating the cost of KAA as if land were free and freely available now and forever. The reality is all available large plots of land in Western Fairfax/Eastern Loudoun are getting snapped up as soon as they become available for $3M+ an acre - GW just sold their property in Loudoun for $4M per. Use $3M, the land itself would have cost $120M, the building was only $30M.

That’s literally what Skyview is.

I think PP is trying to say that the people enamored with the magnet school idea are keeping some infrastructure in the building that limits its usefulness as a community high school. If you've ever been in there, the setup is much more like a college campus building than a typical high school.

Yes, this is why I like it. Anyone know current enrollment numbers for 9th grade? I just want to make sure my kid can do all the advanced Math APs

Which math will your 9th grader be taking? Likely the math options will be strong considering the many kids matriculating from Carson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to take less community input and do what is best for fcps as a whole. Less on transportation = closest communities. Less adjustments = students already at Carson.

They stopped thinking about what was best for FCPS when they bought KAA without truly understanding what they were purchasing.

FCPS has a "possibilities" fairy problem and has had one for decades. Reid, the SB, ... all looking to burnish their resumes for the next job by dreaming up whatever strikes their fancy. JI, FLES, IB, ... are far more exciting than making the buses run on time or maintaining hundreds of school buildings. If the operations people had been able to keep the possibilities fairies away from KAA before they'd gutted it, FCPS would be getting exactly what this part of the County has needed ever since they built Carson - a community HS for about 2000 students.

And they'd have gotten the community HS for a song. People have been treating the cost of KAA as if land were free and freely available now and forever. The reality is all available large plots of land in Western Fairfax/Eastern Loudoun are getting snapped up as soon as they become available for $3M+ an acre - GW just sold their property in Loudoun for $4M per. Use $3M, the land itself would have cost $120M, the building was only $30M.

That’s literally what Skyview is.

I think PP is trying to say that the people enamored with the magnet school idea are keeping some infrastructure in the building that limits its usefulness as a community high school. If you've ever been in there, the setup is much more like a college campus building than a typical high school.

Yes, this is why I like it. Anyone know current enrollment numbers for 9th grade? I just want to make sure my kid can do all the advanced Math APs

Which math will your 9th grader be taking? Likely the math options will be strong considering the many kids matriculating from Carson.

On the other hand some of the other electives stand to be anemic next year.