Gaza war and College Campus Protests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This topic is back again. I wonder if this is the first protest movement interrupted so the protesters could go on holiday!

I really don’t get the goal here, it’s not like Hamas or Netanyahu care about what is going on half way around the world on US colleges. Divestment? That would seem a hollow win.

I think they do care. This is a battle for the US more than it is a battle for Gaza or Israel/Palestine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that Israel is a problem country in the region. They want to memory hole all the stories about Israel deceptively getting nukes and begging the Congress for war in Iran back in.. 2009, 2010, 2013.

Reframing Hamas or 10/7 as part of their Iran problem is deceptive. They had issues with Iran being secretive about their nuclear ambitions. Imagine that!

It's quite encouraging to read the posts from seemingly MANY informed, realistic posters who are opposed to Israel's brutal subjugation and genocide - the same posters who the Zionist bullies (bully?) try to castigate as "one pro-Hamas terrorist" whenever the spotlight gets a bit too uncomfortable. Jeff must chuckle to himself when he reads those comments, too.

Threats of linguistic pattern analysis, bread crumbing federal agents into career-ending investigations of citizens exercising the same free speech our founders fought for, spittle frothing from their mouths as they rage against the persistence of this thread. But mostly what they do is serve up that word salad, obsessed day after day with what others have to say about Israel's atrocities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that Israel is a problem country in the region. They want to memory hole all the stories about Israel deceptively getting nukes and begging the Congress for war in Iran back in.. 2009, 2010, 2013.

Reframing Hamas or 10/7 as part of their Iran problem is deceptive. They had issues with Iran being secretive about their nuclear ambitions. Imagine that!

It's quite encouraging to read the posts from seemingly MANY informed, realistic posters who are opposed to Israel's brutal subjugation and genocide - the same posters who the Zionist bullies (bully?) try to castigate as "one pro-Hamas terrorist" whenever the spotlight gets a bit too uncomfortable. Jeff must chuckle to himself when he reads those comments, too.

Threats of linguistic pattern analysis, bread crumbing federal agents into career-ending investigations of citizens exercising the same free speech our founders fought for, spittle frothing from their mouths as they rage against the persistence of this thread. But mostly what they do is serve up that word salad, obsessed day after day with what others have to say about Israel's atrocities.

Yikes! This is a lot of MAGA-like projection, but not surprising given the anti-Israel faction is its complimentary opposite: the irrational far-left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that Israel is a problem country in the region. They want to memory hole all the stories about Israel deceptively getting nukes and begging the Congress for war in Iran back in.. 2009, 2010, 2013.

Reframing Hamas or 10/7 as part of their Iran problem is deceptive. They had issues with Iran being secretive about their nuclear ambitions. Imagine that!

It's quite encouraging to read the posts from seemingly MANY informed, realistic posters who are opposed to Israel's brutal subjugation and genocide - the same posters who the Zionist bullies (bully?) try to castigate as "one pro-Hamas terrorist" whenever the spotlight gets a bit too uncomfortable. Jeff must chuckle to himself when he reads those comments, too.

Threats of linguistic pattern analysis, bread crumbing federal agents into career-ending investigations of citizens exercising the same free speech our founders fought for, spittle frothing from their mouths as they rage against the persistence of this thread. But mostly what they do is serve up that word salad, obsessed day after day with what others have to say about Israel's atrocities.

Yikes! This is a lot of MAGA-like projection, but not surprising given the anti-Israel faction is its complimentary opposite: the irrational far-left.

If Israel would pause, take stock of what the future holds, discontinue their pattern of repeatedly provoking all of their neighbors, and work toward a reasonable solution to resolve the conflict of the last 80 or whatever years, I think I'd be quite happy to count myself as an Israel supporter.

But as it stands - yeah, no. Not even close. That doesn't mean I want to see Israel "wiped off the map", but who cares about that hyperbole anyway? That's about as realistic of an idea as the idea that the Cayman Islands will be the lone global superpower in the 21st century. That we allow you to cry about it like it's a realistic possibility speaks a lot to how much idiocy we entertain in this matter.

This shit is so one-sided and no amount of U.S. blocking and tackling (or designating as a terrorist anyone who dares to stand up to Israel after getting punched in the face by Israel repeatedly) will change my mind until I see wave after wave of change in the Middle East. It's long overdue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that Israel is a problem country in the region. They want to memory hole all the stories about Israel deceptively getting nukes and begging the Congress for war in Iran back in.. 2009, 2010, 2013.

Reframing Hamas or 10/7 as part of their Iran problem is deceptive. They had issues with Iran being secretive about their nuclear ambitions. Imagine that!

It's quite encouraging to read the posts from seemingly MANY informed, realistic posters who are opposed to Israel's brutal subjugation and genocide - the same posters who the Zionist bullies (bully?) try to castigate as "one pro-Hamas terrorist" whenever the spotlight gets a bit too uncomfortable. Jeff must chuckle to himself when he reads those comments, too.

Threats of linguistic pattern analysis, bread crumbing federal agents into career-ending investigations of citizens exercising the same free speech our founders fought for, spittle frothing from their mouths as they rage against the persistence of this thread. But mostly what they do is serve up that word salad, obsessed day after day with what others have to say about Israel's atrocities.

Yikes! This is a lot of MAGA-like projection, but not surprising given the anti-Israel faction is its complimentary opposite: the irrational far-left.

If Israel would pause, take stock of what the future holds, discontinue their pattern of repeatedly provoking all of their neighbors, and work toward a reasonable solution to resolve the conflict of the last 80 or whatever years, I think I'd be quite happy to count myself as an Israel supporter.

But as it stands - yeah, no. Not even close. That doesn't mean I want to see Israel "wiped off the map", but who cares about that hyperbole anyway? That's about as realistic of an idea as the idea that the Cayman Islands will be the lone global superpower in the 21st century. That we allow you to cry about it like it's a realistic possibility speaks a lot to how much idiocy we entertain in this matter.

This shit is so one-sided and no amount of U.S. blocking and tackling (or designating as a terrorist anyone who dares to stand up to Israel after getting punched in the face by Israel repeatedly) will change my mind until I see wave after wave of change in the Middle East. It's long overdue.

It isn’t one-sided. You are incredibly naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that Israel is a problem country in the region. They want to memory hole all the stories about Israel deceptively getting nukes and begging the Congress for war in Iran back in.. 2009, 2010, 2013.

Reframing Hamas or 10/7 as part of their Iran problem is deceptive. They had issues with Iran being secretive about their nuclear ambitions. Imagine that!

It's quite encouraging to read the posts from seemingly MANY informed, realistic posters who are opposed to Israel's brutal subjugation and genocide - the same posters who the Zionist bullies (bully?) try to castigate as "one pro-Hamas terrorist" whenever the spotlight gets a bit too uncomfortable. Jeff must chuckle to himself when he reads those comments, too.

Threats of linguistic pattern analysis, bread crumbing federal agents into career-ending investigations of citizens exercising the same free speech our founders fought for, spittle frothing from their mouths as they rage against the persistence of this thread. But mostly what they do is serve up that word salad, obsessed day after day with what others have to say about Israel's atrocities.

Yikes! This is a lot of MAGA-like projection, but not surprising given the anti-Israel faction is its complimentary opposite: the irrational far-left.

If Israel would pause, take stock of what the future holds, discontinue their pattern of repeatedly provoking all of their neighbors, and work toward a reasonable solution to resolve the conflict of the last 80 or whatever years, I think I'd be quite happy to count myself as an Israel supporter.

But as it stands - yeah, no. Not even close. That doesn't mean I want to see Israel "wiped off the map", but who cares about that hyperbole anyway? That's about as realistic of an idea as the idea that the Cayman Islands will be the lone global superpower in the 21st century. That we allow you to cry about it like it's a realistic possibility speaks a lot to how much idiocy we entertain in this matter.

This shit is so one-sided and no amount of U.S. blocking and tackling (or designating as a terrorist anyone who dares to stand up to Israel after getting punched in the face by Israel repeatedly) will change my mind until I see wave after wave of change in the Middle East. It's long overdue.

It isn’t one-sided. You are incredibly naive.

I'm naive? That's rich. Truly.

It is one-sided. OF COURSE someone like you, who LOVES the prevailing one-sided imbalance, will take the stance that it's not one-sided ... why would you?

In reality, it's probably something like 73 - 80% Israel to blame, 10% topper for U.S. meddling under the guise of "facilitating peace", and 10 - 17% Palestinians to blame. To be honest, I'm surprised you're not trying to argue, as some have done here, that the one-sided imbalance favors the Palestinians at the same level. That's certifiable.

But even to suggest that EVERYONE outside the U.S. has it all wrong, and only the U.S. and Israel have it all right ... don't you get how the naive one is the person looking at you in the mirror?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This topic is back again. I wonder if this is the first protest movement interrupted so the protesters could go on holiday!

I really don’t get the goal here, it’s not like Hamas or Netanyahu care about what is going on half way around the world on US colleges. Divestment? That would seem a hollow win.

DP

It's simple.

Those who want an end to the genocidal massacre in Gaza (short-term goal). and who want progress in resolving the conflict once and for all (long-term goal), find utility in discussing the issues here. They want the thread to continue as long as needed ...

Those who want to preserve the status quo for self-serving reasons feel otherwise. There are many reasons for their narcissistic feelings, but a common one involves the fact that they have loved ones from Brooklyn or Poland or Ukraine who are the beneficiary of U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons when the Israeli government and the IDF explicitly back the expansion of settlements, in flagrant violation of international law. They are in a tailspin seeing these discussions continue, knowing that the longer they continue, the more people become aware of Israel's atrocities. They want the thread killed ASAP. They have been screeching about that goal for months, and they badger the admin to shut it down regularly.

Again, it's very simple. Those in the wrong just want to bury the body as quickly as possible to avoid detection.

DP.

Quite the contrary here. I love seeing the same 2-3 posters dig up this thread.

They discredit themselves and reveal their true motives every time:

“Iran is a force for peace”

“Tunnels aren’t real”

“Palestinians favor a 2 state solution”

“Who cares that the hostages were murdered?”

And so forth and so on.

It’s wonderfully illustrative.

Sure, Jan. You love it. Undoubtedly. No, really.

Back here in reality, I can sense your blood pressure rising every time you feel that compulsion to come here and express exasperation that it still carries on.

On the contrary, this amuses me to no end.

Please carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This topic is back again. I wonder if this is the first protest movement interrupted so the protesters could go on holiday!

I really don’t get the goal here, it’s not like Hamas or Netanyahu care about what is going on half way around the world on US colleges. Divestment? That would seem a hollow win.

DP

It's simple.

Those who want an end to the genocidal massacre in Gaza (short-term goal). and who want progress in resolving the conflict once and for all (long-term goal), find utility in discussing the issues here. They want the thread to continue as long as needed ...

Those who want to preserve the status quo for self-serving reasons feel otherwise. There are many reasons for their narcissistic feelings, but a common one involves the fact that they have loved ones from Brooklyn or Poland or Ukraine who are the beneficiary of U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons when the Israeli government and the IDF explicitly back the expansion of settlements, in flagrant violation of international law. They are in a tailspin seeing these discussions continue, knowing that the longer they continue, the more people become aware of Israel's atrocities. They want the thread killed ASAP. They have been screeching about that goal for months, and they badger the admin to shut it down regularly.

Again, it's very simple. Those in the wrong just want to bury the body as quickly as possible to avoid detection.

DP.

Quite the contrary here. I love seeing the same 2-3 posters dig up this thread.

They discredit themselves and reveal their true motives every time:

“Iran is a force for peace”

“Tunnels aren’t real”

“Palestinians favor a 2 state solution”

“Who cares that the hostages were murdered?”

And so forth and so on.

It’s wonderfully illustrative.

What’s illustrative is your penchant for lying. Wonder where you got it from.

Nobody said any of the above except the 2 state solution and that would be right.
The President of Palestine is Mahmoud Abbas and he supports a two state solution.

Which political leader in Israel supports a 2 state solution? Netanyahu supported Hamas and made them billionaires richer than Donald Trump all because President Mahmoud Abbas’ peace agenda with the West was a threat.

We know who the enemy of peace is in the region based on the war mongering for Iran

Really?

Tunnels are nonexistent was a gem from today.

Iran as a force for peace was Friday’s talking point.

Palestinians want a two state solution (notwithstanding all polling to the contrary) was Sunday’s bon mot, IIRC.

And let’s not forget everyone’s favorite: bin Laden was just misunderstood.

If you have a strong stomach, look ‘em up yourself.

Suffice it to say, no mystery why the protests in Chicago have been a complete bust.

The far left is setting an absurd narrative and no one reasonable wants to be associated with their nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This topic is back again. I wonder if this is the first protest movement interrupted so the protesters could go on holiday!

I really don’t get the goal here, it’s not like Hamas or Netanyahu care about what is going on half way around the world on US colleges. Divestment? That would seem a hollow win.

DP

It's simple.

Those who want an end to the genocidal massacre in Gaza (short-term goal). and who want progress in resolving the conflict once and for all (long-term goal), find utility in discussing the issues here. They want the thread to continue as long as needed ...

Those who want to preserve the status quo for self-serving reasons feel otherwise. There are many reasons for their narcissistic feelings, but a common one involves the fact that they have loved ones from Brooklyn or Poland or Ukraine who are the beneficiary of U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons when the Israeli government and the IDF explicitly back the expansion of settlements, in flagrant violation of international law. They are in a tailspin seeing these discussions continue, knowing that the longer they continue, the more people become aware of Israel's atrocities. They want the thread killed ASAP. They have been screeching about that goal for months, and they badger the admin to shut it down regularly.

Again, it's very simple. Those in the wrong just want to bury the body as quickly as possible to avoid detection.

DP.

Quite the contrary here. I love seeing the same 2-3 posters dig up this thread.

They discredit themselves and reveal their true motives every time:

“Iran is a force for peace”

“Tunnels aren’t real”

“Palestinians favor a 2 state solution”

“Who cares that the hostages were murdered?”

And so forth and so on.

It’s wonderfully illustrative.

Sure, Jan. You love it. Undoubtedly. No, really.

Back here in reality, I can sense your blood pressure rising every time you feel that compulsion to come here and express exasperation that it still carries on.

On the contrary, this amuses me to no end.

Please carry on.

Not too amused to have a tantrum every day over the existence of the thread. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This topic is back again. I wonder if this is the first protest movement interrupted so the protesters could go on holiday!

I really don’t get the goal here, it’s not like Hamas or Netanyahu care about what is going on half way around the world on US colleges. Divestment? That would seem a hollow win.

DP

It's simple.

Those who want an end to the genocidal massacre in Gaza (short-term goal). and who want progress in resolving the conflict once and for all (long-term goal), find utility in discussing the issues here. They want the thread to continue as long as needed ...

Those who want to preserve the status quo for self-serving reasons feel otherwise. There are many reasons for their narcissistic feelings, but a common one involves the fact that they have loved ones from Brooklyn or Poland or Ukraine who are the beneficiary of U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons when the Israeli government and the IDF explicitly back the expansion of settlements, in flagrant violation of international law. They are in a tailspin seeing these discussions continue, knowing that the longer they continue, the more people become aware of Israel's atrocities. They want the thread killed ASAP. They have been screeching about that goal for months, and they badger the admin to shut it down regularly.

Again, it's very simple. Those in the wrong just want to bury the body as quickly as possible to avoid detection.

DP.

Quite the contrary here. I love seeing the same 2-3 posters dig up this thread.

They discredit themselves and reveal their true motives every time:

“Iran is a force for peace”

“Tunnels aren’t real”

“Palestinians favor a 2 state solution”

“Who cares that the hostages were murdered?”

And so forth and so on.

It’s wonderfully illustrative.

What’s illustrative is your penchant for lying. Wonder where you got it from.

Nobody said any of the above except the 2 state solution and that would be right.
The President of Palestine is Mahmoud Abbas and he supports a two state solution.

Which political leader in Israel supports a 2 state solution? Netanyahu supported Hamas and made them billionaires richer than Donald Trump all because President Mahmoud Abbas’ peace agenda with the West was a threat.

We know who the enemy of peace is in the region based on the war mongering for Iran

Really?

Tunnels are nonexistent was a gem from today.

Iran as a force for peace was Friday’s talking point.

Palestinians want a two state solution (notwithstanding all polling to the contrary) was Sunday’s bon mot, IIRC.

And let’s not forget everyone’s favorite: bin Laden was just misunderstood.

If you have a strong stomach, look ‘em up yourself.

Suffice it to say, no mystery why the protests in Chicago have been a complete bust.

The far left is setting an absurd narrative and no one reasonable wants to be associated with their nonsense.

<gasp> you're talking notes on what's being said by whom, and when? Yikes. Get a hobby. Your doxxing dreams are just that ... dreams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This topic is back again. I wonder if this is the first protest movement interrupted so the protesters could go on holiday!

I really don’t get the goal here, it’s not like Hamas or Netanyahu care about what is going on half way around the world on US colleges. Divestment? That would seem a hollow win.

DP

It's simple.

Those who want an end to the genocidal massacre in Gaza (short-term goal). and who want progress in resolving the conflict once and for all (long-term goal), find utility in discussing the issues here. They want the thread to continue as long as needed ...

Those who want to preserve the status quo for self-serving reasons feel otherwise. There are many reasons for their narcissistic feelings, but a common one involves the fact that they have loved ones from Brooklyn or Poland or Ukraine who are the beneficiary of U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons when the Israeli government and the IDF explicitly back the expansion of settlements, in flagrant violation of international law. They are in a tailspin seeing these discussions continue, knowing that the longer they continue, the more people become aware of Israel's atrocities. They want the thread killed ASAP. They have been screeching about that goal for months, and they badger the admin to shut it down regularly.

Again, it's very simple. Those in the wrong just want to bury the body as quickly as possible to avoid detection.

DP.

Quite the contrary here. I love seeing the same 2-3 posters dig up this thread.

They discredit themselves and reveal their true motives every time:

“Iran is a force for peace”

“Tunnels aren’t real”

“Palestinians favor a 2 state solution”

“Who cares that the hostages were murdered?”

And so forth and so on.

It’s wonderfully illustrative.

Sure, Jan. You love it. Undoubtedly. No, really.

Back here in reality, I can sense your blood pressure rising every time you feel that compulsion to come here and express exasperation that it still carries on.

On the contrary, this amuses me to no end.

Please carry on.

Not too amused to have a tantrum every day over the existence of the thread. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Tantrum?

You’ve got the wrong guy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This topic is back again. I wonder if this is the first protest movement interrupted so the protesters could go on holiday!

I really don’t get the goal here, it’s not like Hamas or Netanyahu care about what is going on half way around the world on US colleges. Divestment? That would seem a hollow win.

DP

It's simple.

Those who want an end to the genocidal massacre in Gaza (short-term goal). and who want progress in resolving the conflict once and for all (long-term goal), find utility in discussing the issues here. They want the thread to continue as long as needed ...

Those who want to preserve the status quo for self-serving reasons feel otherwise. There are many reasons for their narcissistic feelings, but a common one involves the fact that they have loved ones from Brooklyn or Poland or Ukraine who are the beneficiary of U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons when the Israeli government and the IDF explicitly back the expansion of settlements, in flagrant violation of international law. They are in a tailspin seeing these discussions continue, knowing that the longer they continue, the more people become aware of Israel's atrocities. They want the thread killed ASAP. They have been screeching about that goal for months, and they badger the admin to shut it down regularly.

Again, it's very simple. Those in the wrong just want to bury the body as quickly as possible to avoid detection.

DP.

Quite the contrary here. I love seeing the same 2-3 posters dig up this thread.

They discredit themselves and reveal their true motives every time:

“Iran is a force for peace”

“Tunnels aren’t real”

“Palestinians favor a 2 state solution”

“Who cares that the hostages were murdered?”

And so forth and so on.

It’s wonderfully illustrative.

What’s illustrative is your penchant for lying. Wonder where you got it from.

Nobody said any of the above except the 2 state solution and that would be right.
The President of Palestine is Mahmoud Abbas and he supports a two state solution.

Which political leader in Israel supports a 2 state solution? Netanyahu supported Hamas and made them billionaires richer than Donald Trump all because President Mahmoud Abbas’ peace agenda with the West was a threat.

We know who the enemy of peace is in the region based on the war mongering for Iran

Really?

Tunnels are nonexistent was a gem from today.

Iran as a force for peace was Friday’s talking point.

Palestinians want a two state solution (notwithstanding all polling to the contrary) was Sunday’s bon mot, IIRC.

And let’s not forget everyone’s favorite: bin Laden was just misunderstood.

If you have a strong stomach, look ‘em up yourself.

Suffice it to say, no mystery why the protests in Chicago have been a complete bust.

The far left is setting an absurd narrative and no one reasonable wants to be associated with their nonsense.

<gasp> you're talking notes on what's being said by whom, and when? Yikes. Get a hobby. Your doxxing dreams are just that ... dreams.

Notes? No.

Doxxing? No.

Reading and retaining?

Most assuredly.

Rather the point of dialogue, wouldn’t you say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This topic is back again. I wonder if this is the first protest movement interrupted so the protesters could go on holiday!

I really don’t get the goal here, it’s not like Hamas or Netanyahu care about what is going on half way around the world on US colleges. Divestment? That would seem a hollow win.

DP

It's simple.

Those who want an end to the genocidal massacre in Gaza (short-term goal). and who want progress in resolving the conflict once and for all (long-term goal), find utility in discussing the issues here. They want the thread to continue as long as needed ...

Those who want to preserve the status quo for self-serving reasons feel otherwise. There are many reasons for their narcissistic feelings, but a common one involves the fact that they have loved ones from Brooklyn or Poland or Ukraine who are the beneficiary of U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons when the Israeli government and the IDF explicitly back the expansion of settlements, in flagrant violation of international law. They are in a tailspin seeing these discussions continue, knowing that the longer they continue, the more people become aware of Israel's atrocities. They want the thread killed ASAP. They have been screeching about that goal for months, and they badger the admin to shut it down regularly.

Again, it's very simple. Those in the wrong just want to bury the body as quickly as possible to avoid detection.

DP.

Quite the contrary here. I love seeing the same 2-3 posters dig up this thread.

They discredit themselves and reveal their true motives every time:

“Iran is a force for peace”

“Tunnels aren’t real”

“Palestinians favor a 2 state solution”

“Who cares that the hostages were murdered?”

And so forth and so on.

It’s wonderfully illustrative.

What’s illustrative is your penchant for lying. Wonder where you got it from.

Nobody said any of the above except the 2 state solution and that would be right.
The President of Palestine is Mahmoud Abbas and he supports a two state solution.

Which political leader in Israel supports a 2 state solution? Netanyahu supported Hamas and made them billionaires richer than Donald Trump all because President Mahmoud Abbas’ peace agenda with the West was a threat.

We know who the enemy of peace is in the region based on the war mongering for Iran

Really?

Tunnels are nonexistent was a gem from today.

Iran as a force for peace was Friday’s talking point.

Palestinians want a two state solution (notwithstanding all polling to the contrary) was Sunday’s bon mot, IIRC.

And let’s not forget everyone’s favorite: bin Laden was just misunderstood.

If you have a strong stomach, look ‘em up yourself.

Suffice it to say, no mystery why the protests in Chicago have been a complete bust.

The far left is setting an absurd narrative and no one reasonable wants to be associated with their nonsense.

I think you are taking liberties with paraphrasing here.

Iran doesn’t want war with the US nor does the U.S. want war in Iran does not mean It is a force for peace. It just means it is war averse. The US is fatigued by all the Middle East wars and vice versa.

Apparently, Israel isnt satisfied yet. If you don’t have any skin in the game, of course war is great. They won’t pay the price in human life for it so why would they care?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why these protesters weren't at the RNC? I honestly don't understand why they're protesting the DNC, but not Bibi's bestie Donald, who definitely doesn't care about Palestinians.

These are people who want “their party” to represent their interests. The leadership just expects everyone to shut up and fall in line. Things are changing.

They don't get to call the Democrats "their party" when they run around shrieking "Genocide Joe" and heckling Democrats during campaign events and so on. They have clearly taken a hateful, adversarial anti-Democrat position.

And don't even get me started on the fact that they are being organized and funded by Iran. To me, that means their political party is the IRGC, and it's clear they won't vote for Democrats - I don't recognize them as Democrats.

The Dems are a lot more than just Israel. You only care about Israel and enforcing your views on everyone else.

Let's be blunt and honest here - the staunchly pro-Hamas part of America may be obnoxiously loud and visible through its vandalism and occupying of street intersections but in terms of numbers, it's only 2% tops even in places like Michigan which has the highest percentage of Muslims. You want to enforce your views on 98% of America.

lol 98% of Americans do not give a sh#t if Israel continues or ceases to exist tomorrow. They can’t even find it on a map. Israel is a Jewish state and only 2% of the country is Jewish. Tell me again why 98% of the country is no allowed to migrate to Israel?

The dems are against racism, intolerance, oppression, apartheid, genocide but are for freedom, justice, religion freedoms, democracy, protection for minorities, helping the down trodden and oppressed, the constitution, equal rights, human right, etc. Now you think because Israel is important to you everyone should throw out their values and ignore what Israel is?

Do you know that people who aren't Jewish care about whether or not the State of Israel exists or not? The small percentage of Jews in this country =/= the percentage who care about the issue. For that matter, not all 2% of US Jews want Israel to exist.

As for finding it on a map, people voted on their feelings about Afghanistan and Iraq and couldn't find those on a map either. Americans form opinions about issues all the time without regard for maps.

Sorry to shatter your world but 98% of the people do not care. Israel is so unimportant to the vast majority of Americans that they do not even know it exist- ie can not find it on a map. Israel’s support among politicians is all manufactured by lobbyist. Israel policy in the US use to have no downside because 98% of Americans did not care. Israel had the political profile equivalent to importing farm raised salmon from Argentina.

That has changed with AIpac pushing of right wing ideology, the heinous crimes against humanity Israel commits daily and Israel giving the US the finger on everything. This keeps Israel in the news. No American wants to attack Iran or anyone else for Israel. No American wants to support a country that kills a little girls family, let’s her sit with her families blood all over her for hours and then kills the people who were sent to help her.

So now there is a huge downside to being associated with Israel or lord help you supporting Israel. Good luck with your genocide..never again!

You are very wrong about this. I know a lot of non-Jews who are hugely supportive of Israel as a democratic ally in the Middle East and as a home/important origin for the Christian religion as well as for Jewish and Muslim. Many American Christians visit Israel annually on trips to learn more about Christ and his life. Nearly every American service member I know supports Israel from a military perspective.

+1 Young people look really foolish being so stridently anti-Israel. They want an arms embargo? Ok Who will stop supplying arms to Hamas and other militant groups in the Middle East?

lol Hamas got all their “arms” from Israel. Any country near Israel needs to be armed otherwise Israel will invade. Remember Israel will break a treaty at anytime. It is words is worth less than zero. Look how Israel broke the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty multiple times in the past 6 months. The only reason Israel did not attack Egypt is because they have a real military.

Israel has no allies in the Middle East and the world. There is a reason for this.

Hamas gets its arms from Iran. Israel needs to be armed otherwise other surrounding countries will invade. The world is much more complicated than your adolescent take on the conflict accommodates.

DP Not everyone has that keen intellect like you, sir or madam!

Hey, while we have that megabrain on the job, can you help explain something for the feeble minds here in the back of the classroom?

How exactly does Iran arm Hamas when Israel has maintained a complete land, sea, and air blockade on Gaza for decades?

Nothing crosses the land border without Israeli inspection. Not even a grain of rice. Nothing is permitted to cross the sea border, and of course there is only Israeli air traffic above the skies of Gaza. And yet you assert that Iran is arming Hamas despite the Israeli lockdown?

Were you sleeping through news about the tunnels?

After the 2007 imposition of a blockade on the Gaza Strip by Israel and Egypt, the Iranian Quds Force under the longtime direction of General Qasem Soleimani has been active in supporting the further construction of tunnels under Gaza and the smuggling of weapons through these tunnels to the armed wings of Hamas.

DP oh the “tunnels” and smuggling! Yes just like the high level Hamas leadership is hiding schools and hospitals. No proof but a lot of bullsh#t. Notice how there is never any proof. We just have to believe the Israelis who lie about everything.

DP. You’re right! Hamas isn’t smuggling weapons, is only interested in a peaceful resolution, never embeds in civilian areas, and isn’t supported by Iran.

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FFS.

Putin has more to do with 10/7 than Iran but Israel would never fight a giant country like Russia. All the weapons used on 10/7 came from Wagner group in Sudan

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There were clearly sudanese or other African paid Russian Wagner group mercenaries doing acts on 10/7. Some of those stories are scrubbed but for sure the US and Israel are aware.

If Israel were truthful they would point the finger at Putin first as he had more to do with 10/7 than Iran. He was losing territory last year but now the pentagon has run out of enough shells for Ukraines army last month so Putin and Russia were able to regain territory. He made the gamble and he was right that an Israeli war would drain the pentagon for a bit-long enough for him to regain the advantage on the ground