Biden's VP?

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that he really wants to do Whitmer or Rice and doesn't want to do Harris. Demmings was a gimmick pick and he doesnt think Bass gas the gravitas.

I think his own personal first choice would be Rice - they know each other really well from the Obama admin, and all the articles about his VP search say he wants a partner and someone he already knows and trusts. But, she does carry a lot of Obama administration baggage and I’m sure Republicans would love to throw out the “Clinton Obama Benghazi emails rarrrrrr” red meat to the base.

Demmings may be a gimmick to you - for me, as a public interest lobbyist, I have been nothing but impressed by her. Wish even 50% of Dem caucus was as well-prepared as she is for hearings and floor time. She is fluent with the materials and subject matter, clearly reading memos and listening to her staff (who also appear top notch). Perhaps the law enforcement background was seen as a detraction - that said, really like her and hope she has a long future in national Dem politics.

I like her for that, too, but that’s also why I like Warren.

[Anonymous]

It should be Rice. The GOP only has Benghazi and if they want to make the campaign about who is liar, the Democrats are way out in front of that one. Besides, she is a voice or stability and experience in the unstable Global position we have put ourselves in with China, Russian, Iran and North Korea. She also bring our allies back into the fold that Trump has alienated. I am not a person to back away from a fight and I’d rather fight the fight we know or than the skeletons in the closets of some of these other candidates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that he really wants to do Whitmer or Rice and doesn't want to do Harris. Demmings was a gimmick pick and he doesnt think Bass gas the gravitas.

I think his own personal first choice would be Rice - they know each other really well from the Obama admin, and all the articles about his VP search say he wants a partner and someone he already knows and trusts. But, she does carry a lot of Obama administration baggage and I’m sure Republicans would love to throw out the “Clinton Obama Benghazi emails rarrrrrr” red meat to the base.

+1 I think his team will talk him out of Rice but yes I agree.

You know, I was in the anyone-but-Rice camp but I've come around based on her media appearances. She's much more down to earth and funny than I expected. I don't know whether her baggage is surmountable in the end, but I personally would be happy with her as the pick. Below is a recent Daily Show appearance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EolewF13xI

I’m the first reply who said Biden probably has Rice as his #1. I actually like Susan Rice a lot and think she comes off as very personable and smart. BUT, she’s a Certified GOP Boogeyman, right up there with Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder. Maybe that doesn’t matter this election cycle, I don’t know. At least her baggage is all out there already vs. being surprised by something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It should be Rice. The GOP only has Benghazi and if they want to make the campaign about who is liar, the Democrats are way out in front of that one. Besides, she is a voice or stability and experience in the unstable Global position we have put ourselves in with China, Russian, Iran and North Korea. She also bring our allies back into the fold that Trump has alienated. I am not a person to back away from a fight and I’d rather fight the fight we know or than the skeletons in the closets of some of these other candidates.

I like Rice, but she can do all of this as Sec State. I sadly agree she's too much of a GOP bogeyman(woman).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that he really wants to do Whitmer or Rice and doesn't want to do Harris. Demmings was a gimmick pick and he doesnt think Bass gas the gravitas.

I think his own personal first choice would be Rice - they know each other really well from the Obama admin, and all the articles about his VP search say he wants a partner and someone he already knows and trusts. But, she does carry a lot of Obama administration baggage and I’m sure Republicans would love to throw out the “Clinton Obama Benghazi emails rarrrrrr” red meat to the base.

Demmings may be a gimmick to you - for me, as a public interest lobbyist, I have been nothing but impressed by her. Wish even 50% of Dem caucus was as well-prepared as she is for hearings and floor time. She is fluent with the materials and subject matter, clearly reading memos and listening to her staff (who also appear top notch). Perhaps the law enforcement background was seen as a detraction - that said, really like her and hope she has a long future in national Dem politics.

I like her for that, too, but that’s also why I like Warren.

I like Warren too. I read her book The Two Income Trap a long time ago. It really explained the middle class was cash strapped and single moms were falling even further behind. Biden should pick Whitmer or Duckworth. I agree Rice could be Sec of State.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harris has a a closet full of ghosts...to suggest otherwise is laughable. They include sleeping with a married man twice her age who appointed her to her political appointments that paid her $400k. Failing to prosecute certain banks and individuals for mortgage fraud. She also ignored the pleas of the people to investigate and prosecute the police for suspicious deaths of young black men. Nor did she support laws eventually put into place by Governor Brown to help end racial profiling of the police in California. She went on record objecting to a law proposing all police where body cameras. She also opposed legislation requiring the AG’s office to independently investigate deadly police shootings. You will also be hearing the name Kevin Cooper if she is the VP (look up that tragic story) and her record on prosecuting Black men, opposing the legalization of marijuana, and the list goes on.

So this is the stuff that gives me such reservation around her politically. It just seems like a very slipppery slope with her. The timing for her interest is all wrong, because she doesn’t have any recent meaningful action that contradicts her historic action. And current public persona.

Add that in with the very obvious oppo dumps when we have been strengthened in a unified campaign otherwise — it just stinks to me. Stinks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that he really wants to do Whitmer or Rice and doesn't want to do Harris. Demmings was a gimmick pick and he doesnt think Bass gas the gravitas.

I think his own personal first choice would be Rice - they know each other really well from the Obama admin, and all the articles about his VP search say he wants a partner and someone he already knows and trusts. But, she does carry a lot of Obama administration baggage and I’m sure Republicans would love to throw out the “Clinton Obama Benghazi emails rarrrrrr” red meat to the base.

Demmings may be a gimmick to you - for me, as a public interest lobbyist, I have been nothing but impressed by her. Wish even 50% of Dem caucus was as well-prepared as she is for hearings and floor time. She is fluent with the materials and subject matter, clearly reading memos and listening to her staff (who also appear top notch). Perhaps the law enforcement background was seen as a detraction - that said, really like her and hope she has a long future in national Dem politics.

I like her for that, too, but that’s also why I like Warren.

I like Warren too. I read her book The Two Income Trap a long time ago. It really explained the middle class was cash strapped and single moms were falling even further behind. Biden should pick Whitmer or Duckworth. I agree Rice could be Sec of State.

DP, and largely agree. It’s always been Whitmer as the wisest pick with all things being equal. Still think Grisham is a strong parallel to her, but Whitmer has some national recognition because she is “that woman”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Harris has a a closet full of ghosts...to suggest otherwise is laughable. They include sleeping with a married man twice her age who appointed her to her political appointments that paid her $400k. Failing to prosecute certain banks and individuals for mortgage fraud. She also ignored the pleas of the people to investigate and prosecute the police for suspicious deaths of young black men. Nor did she support laws eventually put into place by Governor Brown to help end racial profiling of the police in California. She went on record objecting to a law proposing all police where body cameras. She also opposed legislation requiring the AG’s office to independently investigate deadly police shootings. You will also be hearing the name Kevin Cooper if she is the VP (look up that tragic story) and her record on prosecuting Black men, opposing the legalization of marijuana, and the list goes on.

So this is the stuff that gives me such reservation around her politically. It just seems like a very slipppery slope with her. The timing for her interest is all wrong, because she doesn’t have any recent meaningful action that contradicts her historic action. And current public persona.

Add that in with the very obvious oppo dumps when we have been strengthened in a unified campaign otherwise — it just stinks to me. Stinks.

+1 The Biden team knows all this, trust. I think the Dodd comments were deliberately leaked to prepare the public for her not being the pick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that he really wants to do Whitmer or Rice and doesn't want to do Harris. Demmings was a gimmick pick and he doesnt think Bass gas the gravitas.

I think his own personal first choice would be Rice - they know each other really well from the Obama admin, and all the articles about his VP search say he wants a partner and someone he already knows and trusts. But, she does carry a lot of Obama administration baggage and I’m sure Republicans would love to throw out the “Clinton Obama Benghazi emails rarrrrrr” red meat to the base.

Demmings may be a gimmick to you - for me, as a public interest lobbyist, I have been nothing but impressed by her. Wish even 50% of Dem caucus was as well-prepared as she is for hearings and floor time. She is fluent with the materials and subject matter, clearly reading memos and listening to her staff (who also appear top notch). Perhaps the law enforcement background was seen as a detraction - that said, really like her and hope she has a long future in national Dem politics.

I like her for that, too, but that’s also why I like Warren.

I like Warren too. I read her book The Two Income Trap a long time ago. It really explained the middle class was cash strapped and single moms were falling even further behind. Biden should pick Whitmer or Duckworth. I agree Rice could be Sec of State.

DP, and largely agree. It’s always been Whitmer as the wisest pick with all things being equal. Still think Grisham is a strong parallel to her, but Whitmer has some national recognition because she is “that woman”.

And the Midwest strategy > Southwest strategy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that he really wants to do Whitmer or Rice and doesn't want to do Harris. Demmings was a gimmick pick and he doesnt think Bass gas the gravitas.

I think his own personal first choice would be Rice - they know each other really well from the Obama admin, and all the articles about his VP search say he wants a partner and someone he already knows and trusts. But, she does carry a lot of Obama administration baggage and I’m sure Republicans would love to throw out the “Clinton Obama Benghazi emails rarrrrrr” red meat to the base.

Demmings may be a gimmick to you - for me, as a public interest lobbyist, I have been nothing but impressed by her. Wish even 50% of Dem caucus was as well-prepared as she is for hearings and floor time. She is fluent with the materials and subject matter, clearly reading memos and listening to her staff (who also appear top notch). Perhaps the law enforcement background was seen as a detraction - that said, really like her and hope she has a long future in national Dem politics.

I like her for that, too, but that’s also why I like Warren.

I like Warren too. I read her book The Two Income Trap a long time ago. It really explained the middle class was cash strapped and single moms were falling even further behind. Biden should pick Whitmer or Duckworth. I agree Rice could be Sec of State.

DP, and largely agree. It’s always been Whitmer as the wisest pick with all things being equal. Still think Grisham is a strong parallel to her, but Whitmer has some national recognition because she is “that woman”.

And the Midwest strategy > Southwest strategy.

Oh yes, i agree.

[Anonymous]

Kamala Harris won't be the pick. There's too much bad blood between the two and it doesn't look like Biden ever got over the accusation of racism . I'm glad that Harris has stood her ground and personally I hope she declines a cabinet position if it's offered to her . She'll be more effective and have more influence being a senator than essentially sitting on an ejectable chair which is what cabinet positions are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that he really wants to do Whitmer or Rice and doesn't want to do Harris. Demmings was a gimmick pick and he doesnt think Bass gas the gravitas.

I think his own personal first choice would be Rice - they know each other really well from the Obama admin, and all the articles about his VP search say he wants a partner and someone he already knows and trusts. But, she does carry a lot of Obama administration baggage and I’m sure Republicans would love to throw out the “Clinton Obama Benghazi emails rarrrrrr” red meat to the base.

Demmings may be a gimmick to you - for me, as a public interest lobbyist, I have been nothing but impressed by her. Wish even 50% of Dem caucus was as well-prepared as she is for hearings and floor time. She is fluent with the materials and subject matter, clearly reading memos and listening to her staff (who also appear top notch). Perhaps the law enforcement background was seen as a detraction - that said, really like her and hope she has a long future in national Dem politics.

I like her for that, too, but that’s also why I like Warren.

I like Warren too. I read her book The Two Income Trap a long time ago. It really explained the middle class was cash strapped and single moms were falling even further behind. Biden should pick Whitmer or Duckworth. I agree Rice could be Sec of State.

DP, and largely agree. It’s always been Whitmer as the wisest pick with all things being equal. Still think Grisham is a strong parallel to her, but Whitmer has some national recognition because she is “that woman”.

Joe Biden isn't going to pick a white woman for the Veep no matterr how many times some of you middled aged white women on dcum fantasize over it . But you know what ? I really want Biden —who is only marginally better than trump intellectually — to pick a white woman .On election day , you'll find out that trump is far from the worst thing that has ever happened to AAs. Not long ago, some of you were all calling klobuchar a 'shoe-in'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris won't be the pick. There's too much bad blood between the two and it doesn't look like Biden ever got over the accusation of racism . I'm glad that Harris has stood her ground and personally I hope she declines a cabinet position if it's offered to her . She'll be more effective and have more influence being a senator than essentially sitting on an ejectable chair which is what cabinet positions are.

Cabinet positions are only ejectable chairs in the Trump administration. Biden's AG is a great opportunity for meaningful reforms without all the congressional bureaucracy, and for publicity. She could be the next Bobby Kennedy. A Nytimes article said she's open to it and it would be smart of her to consider it. I don't know that there's actually bad blood, since they've been fundraising together, though maybe she's the one who will hold a grudge if she's not the VP pick. But I'd also love Sally Yates in the position, and so would Biden if Harris isn't interested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harris has a a closet full of ghosts...to suggest otherwise is laughable. They include sleeping with a married man twice her age who appointed her to her political appointments that paid her $400k. Failing to prosecute certain banks and individuals for mortgage fraud. She also ignored the pleas of the people to investigate and prosecute the police for suspicious deaths of young black men. Nor did she support laws eventually put into place by Governor Brown to help end racial profiling of the police in California. She went on record objecting to a law proposing all police where body cameras. She also opposed legislation requiring the AG’s office to independently investigate deadly police shootings. You will also be hearing the name Kevin Cooper if she is the VP (look up that tragic story) and her record on prosecuting Black men, opposing the legalization of marijuana, and the list goes on.

So this is the stuff that gives me such reservation around her politically. It just seems like a very slipppery slope with her. The timing for her interest is all wrong, because she doesn’t have any recent meaningful action that contradicts her historic action. And current public persona.

Add that in with the very obvious oppo dumps when we have been strengthened in a unified campaign otherwise — it just stinks to me. Stinks.

+1 The Biden team knows all this, trust. I think the Dodd comments were deliberately leaked to prepare the public for her not being the pick.

I think that was just Dodd talking to a donor who talked to the press. But interesting point.

The Axelrod comments are telling. If Sen. Harris or her operatives dumped opposition research in the press, then that could be a trust issue with Biden. The delay is also very bad for Harris as the perceived front runner. If she has not closed the deal by now, she may never. Biden is clearly looking for alternatives. Rice may be moving higher up into contention but Biden has not made up his mind.

I tend to think the Whitmer leak is a smoke screen. It could be a way to prepare the public for a surprise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that he really wants to do Whitmer or Rice and doesn't want to do Harris. Demmings was a gimmick pick and he doesnt think Bass gas the gravitas.

I think his own personal first choice would be Rice - they know each other really well from the Obama admin, and all the articles about his VP search say he wants a partner and someone he already knows and trusts. But, she does carry a lot of Obama administration baggage and I’m sure Republicans would love to throw out the “Clinton Obama Benghazi emails rarrrrrr” red meat to the base.

Demmings may be a gimmick to you - for me, as a public interest lobbyist, I have been nothing but impressed by her. Wish even 50% of Dem caucus was as well-prepared as she is for hearings and floor time. She is fluent with the materials and subject matter, clearly reading memos and listening to her staff (who also appear top notch). Perhaps the law enforcement background was seen as a detraction - that said, really like her and hope she has a long future in national Dem politics.

I like her for that, too, but that’s also why I like Warren.

I like Warren too. I read her book The Two Income Trap a long time ago. It really explained the middle class was cash strapped and single moms were falling even further behind. Biden should pick Whitmer or Duckworth. I agree Rice could be Sec of State.

DP, and largely agree. It’s always been Whitmer as the wisest pick with all things being equal. Still think Grisham is a strong parallel to her, but Whitmer has some national recognition because she is “that woman”.

Joe Biden isn't going to pick a white woman for the Veep no matterr how many times some of you middled aged white women on dcum fantasize over it . But you know what ? I really want Biden —who is only marginally better than trump intellectually — to pick a white woman .On election day , you'll find out that trump is far from the worst thing that has ever happened to AAs. Not long ago, some of you were all calling klobuchar a 'shoe-in'

I’m PP you’re responding to, advocating for Whitmer. I’m black, and I’m in my early 30s. So, not exactly fitting your description of these middle aged white women fantasizing about the same. What do I fantasize over? I’ll give you a hint. It starts with opening the aperture amongst narrow minded posters like you.