MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright

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Did he rob a young woman at gunpoint or not?

[Anonymous]

Here’s the info: https://nypost.com/2021/04/13/daunte-wright-was-facing-attempted-robbery-case-when-killed-by-cop/

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Her words of comfort for the family of the young man she killed are so full of remorse.

Why would there be words of comfort to the family. This was a resignation letter to her employer, not an apology or sympathy letter to the family. It would have been inappropriate (and likely legally unadvisable) to express any remorse.

This kind of attitude is a big problem in our society. Interestingly studies have been done of the litigiousness of victims of medical malpractice. It’s been clearly established that a forthright and sincere apology from the negligent medical provider would forestall legal action in a great many cases.

Lawyers are a scourge. (I am a lawyer, for the record.)

As a lawyer, would you have advised Daunte Wright to write a forthright and sincere apology before any legal proceedings when he robbed that young woman at gun point?

A 26-year-old veteran of the police department shot Daunte Wright. Either she is completely inept or she meant to shoot him. We can all see from the video she claimed to have a taser in their hand. Well, given she had 26 years of experience she must be inept. Meant it or not she pulled that trigger. She was not a rookie, or new, or even untrained. She clearly should not have been patroling and in such a stressful job.

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Her words of comfort for the family of the young man she killed are so full of remorse.

Why would there be words of comfort to the family. This was a resignation letter to her employer, not an apology or sympathy letter to the family. It would have been inappropriate (and likely legally unadvisable) to express any remorse.

This kind of attitude is a big problem in our society. Interestingly studies have been done of the litigiousness of victims of medical malpractice. It’s been clearly established that a forthright and sincere apology from the negligent medical provider would forestall legal action in a great many cases.

Lawyers are a scourge. (I am a lawyer, for the record.)

As a lawyer, would you have advised Daunte Wright to write a forthright and sincere apology before any legal proceedings when he robbed that young woman at gun point?

A 26-year-old veteran of the police department shot Daunte Wright. Either she is completely inept or she meant to shoot him. We can all see from the video she claimed to have a taser in their hand. Well, given she had 26 years of experience she must be inept. Meant it or not she pulled that trigger. She was not a rookie, or new, or even untrained. She clearly should not have been patroling and in such a stressful job.

She worked on the streets for 26 years and we haven’t heard anything about her having any prior complaints or problems. To the contrary, it says that even a competent and experienced officer can make a mistake in the heat of the moment.

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PP here. I don't agree that they should've just let him go and get him later. However, there's a lot of options between letting him go and killing him on the spot. I think she "probably" made the right decision to use the taser but I don't have all the details. Either way, she messed up and needs to be held accountable. I disagree with the city's decision to let her resign. If I'm correct, this means she still gets her pension, etc. She should be fired and have to forfeit any future compensation.

My understanding is that the mayor has not accepted her resignation. I’m sure he’s exploring the city’s legal options; however, police unions negotiate contracts that cover cops in the worst of circumstances, and she was the police union president so I’m guessing she has her ass covered.

Of course he did. I don't know what news sources you get your information from, but you should double check these things. There would be no reason to reject the resignation under these circumstances.

I'm not the poster you are quoting, but as of 6 hours ago, it was still pending
https://nypost.com/2021/04/14/kim-potters-resignation-over-daunte-wright-death-still-pending/

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Anonymous wrote:The article you linked conveniently leaves out what the outstanding warrant was for.

That's no excuse for murder. Period.

- NP

I agree. There's also no excuse for armed robbery.

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Anonymous wrote:Daunte Wright committing armed robbery with a deadly weapon IS serious. Stop trying to minimize his criminal past.



Nevertheless, the tape shows the female officer here simply made a tragic mistake.

There is NO evidence of racism or bad intent here. None whatsoever.

Interesting that little factoid isn't so easy to find. This thug not only pulled a gun on her, but choked her as well in 2019.

Seriously glad the officers weren't hurt!

That's right. Smear the murder victim every single time. When you can't find any dirt, make some up.

It’s not smearing if there was an open warrant on him for that crime when he was pulled over.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were on that jury, there is a zero percent chance I would find her guilty.

...and that's why the jury selection process is so important and time consuming. They usually weed out closed minded people like you. You'll never take the time to dig deeper into what happened and why it possibly happened. It's just another young Black man off the streets for you. Have a good day!

It also weeds out people like you.

another point that is true about our f'd up system. Minorities and people critical of the po po don't ever make it on these types of juries.

Whoosh!

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Anonymous wrote:Have to wonder if Daunte thought he could actually get away in light of the trial going on 10 miles away.

We’ll never know why he ran. If he had let them cuff and arrest him, he would probably be alive today because the cops would not have wanted a repeat of George Floyd.

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Anonymous wrote:Daunte Wright committing armed robbery with a deadly weapon IS serious. Stop trying to minimize his criminal past.



Nevertheless, the tape shows the female officer here simply made a tragic mistake.

There is NO evidence of racism or bad intent here. None whatsoever.

Stop trying to minimize the fact that the color of his skin is why it even escalated to him being tased.

So the alternative is let him drive off?

YES. Apprehend him later. No one needed to die over any of this.

Huh. And what happens the next time - any reason to believe he won’t resist a third time? So we should just sit around and wait from criminals to turn themselves in when they feel like it?

There are division in the police that pick people up on warrants. That is literally their whole job.

Oh my god, here comes the NYPD blue expert. Yes, there are fugitive squads. They are there to track down very, very bad guys, and other less bad guys if they have the time. Should police just stop making arrests and rely on one small squad to later track down everyone and find them? How about when the criminal with the warrant they just let go because the criminal decided he wasn’t ready commits other crimes. Are you serious? You have no idea how policing works.

Policing here. Not policing everywhere.

How do they apprehend fugitives in countries where most police don't carry guns? Let's try that.

Even in the US, most criminals are “apprehended” without drawing weapons. That’s because most subjects comply. Resistance is when risks increase for officers. And because the US is awash in guns, police are very much on edge.

And in case you didn’t notice, this officer attempted to use less than lethal force but made a really bad mistake.

I don't mean Kim Potter should have tried whatever is routinely done elsewhere. I mean maybe we start over, disarm most police, and standard practice becomes apprehensions the way they are done in places where most police are not armed. Because the way we are doing it, it doesn't seem to be working too well.

It’s not “the way we’re doing it.” It’s the reality we’re living in.

The way we're doing policing doesn't seem to be working. In the reality we're in, it fails to deliver the results we want. We should reconsider whether this is the right way to do it. Changing our policing practices, unlike all of the larger systemic problems to which you rightfully point, is directly within the control of the people who employ the police. If you can't agree to this extremely narrow proposition, you're here as a cop apologist.

And what exactly is this extremely narrow proposition?

We should reconsider all elements of policing.

Sounds very narrow. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The article you linked conveniently leaves out what the outstanding warrant was for.

That's no excuse for murder. Period.

- NP

I agree. There's also no excuse for armed robbery.

Or attempting to flee from the police.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article you linked conveniently leaves out what the outstanding warrant was for.

That's no excuse for murder. Period.

- NP

I agree. There's also no excuse for armed robbery.

Or attempting to flee from the police.

The penalty for that isn’t death.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daunte Wright committing armed robbery with a deadly weapon IS serious. Stop trying to minimize his criminal past.



Nevertheless, the tape shows the female officer here simply made a tragic mistake.

There is NO evidence of racism or bad intent here. None whatsoever.

Stop trying to minimize the fact that the color of his skin is why it even escalated to him being tased.

So the alternative is let him drive off?

YES. Apprehend him later. No one needed to die over any of this.

Huh. And what happens the next time - any reason to believe he won’t resist a third time? So we should just sit around and wait from criminals to turn themselves in when they feel like it?

There are division in the police that pick people up on warrants. That is literally their whole job.

Oh my god, here comes the NYPD blue expert. Yes, there are fugitive squads. They are there to track down very, very bad guys, and other less bad guys if they have the time. Should police just stop making arrests and rely on one small squad to later track down everyone and find them? How about when the criminal with the warrant they just let go because the criminal decided he wasn’t ready commits other crimes. Are you serious? You have no idea how policing works.

Policing here. Not policing everywhere.

How do they apprehend fugitives in countries where most police don't carry guns? Let's try that.

Even in the US, most criminals are “apprehended” without drawing weapons. That’s because most subjects comply. Resistance is when risks increase for officers. And because the US is awash in guns, police are very much on edge.

And in case you didn’t notice, this officer attempted to use less than lethal force but made a really bad mistake.

I don't mean Kim Potter should have tried whatever is routinely done elsewhere. I mean maybe we start over, disarm most police, and standard practice becomes apprehensions the way they are done in places where most police are not armed. Because the way we are doing it, it doesn't seem to be working too well.

It’s not “the way we’re doing it.” It’s the reality we’re living in.

The way we're doing policing doesn't seem to be working. In the reality we're in, it fails to deliver the results we want. We should reconsider whether this is the right way to do it. Changing our policing practices, unlike all of the larger systemic problems to which you rightfully point, is directly within the control of the people who employ the police. If you can't agree to this extremely narrow proposition, you're here as a cop apologist.

And what exactly is this extremely narrow proposition?

We should reconsider all elements of policing.

Sounds very narrow. 🙄

If you can't get behind "reconsider," what could you get behind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Her words of comfort for the family of the young man she killed are so full of remorse.

Why would there be words of comfort to the family. This was a resignation letter to her employer, not an apology or sympathy letter to the family. It would have been inappropriate (and likely legally unadvisable) to express any remorse.

This kind of attitude is a big problem in our society. Interestingly studies have been done of the litigiousness of victims of medical malpractice. It’s been clearly established that a forthright and sincere apology from the negligent medical provider would forestall legal action in a great many cases.

Lawyers are a scourge. (I am a lawyer, for the record.)

As a lawyer, would you have advised Daunte Wright to write a forthright and sincere apology before any legal proceedings when he robbed that young woman at gun point?

A 26-year-old veteran of the police department shot Daunte Wright. Either she is completely inept or she meant to shoot him. We can all see from the video she claimed to have a taser in their hand. Well, given she had 26 years of experience she must be inept. Meant it or not she pulled that trigger. She was not a rookie, or new, or even untrained. She clearly should not have been patroling and in such a stressful job.

She worked on the streets for 26 years and we haven’t heard anything about her having any prior complaints or problems. To the contrary, it says that even a competent and experienced officer can make a mistake in the heat of the moment.

Not true. Keep reading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article you linked conveniently leaves out what the outstanding warrant was for.

That's no excuse for murder. Period.

- NP

I agree. There's also no excuse for armed robbery.

Or attempting to flee from the police.

The penalty for that isn’t death.

So? He would be alive today if he didn't attempt to flee. I'll save my sympathy for the innocent.