Woman killed while jogging near Logan Circle

[Anonymous]

The newspaper reported that the murderer was injured while resisting arrest. Too bad that the police didn’t just take him out. It would have spared the family the emotional toll of a trial, and this thug would have gotten the just punishment he deserves.

[Anonymous]

So shall we start a petition to Bowser or to Congress (or both) for involuntary commitment in DC?

Other suggestions:
-call in erratic public or antisocial behaviour (passed out in a bush) to non-emergency 911 (they will determine status). Or tip them by texting 50411 (anonymous- doesn't grab your phone number, monitored 24/7 by police officers)
-stop passing out money in streets. If motivated, donate directly to a facility

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop with bashing the people who fled the restaurant. People do strange things when startled like that. They had no time to think. Some people are just bad in emergency situations. Some people faint at the sight of blood. I know for a fact that I would have been the one performing the CPR on her, because I've been in emergency situations before. But I am able to recognize that people are not all built the same way.

I was just listening to an audiobook about an hour ago that said that people who respond well in emergency situations like this are highly empathetic people. They are courageous, of course, but having empathy for others in distress is what causes them to act.

i think it's hard to predict how you would react in the moment, whether you are an empathetic person or not. i'm sure for many a very instinctive fight or flight response kicks in when you see all that blood. i would think getting hands-on first aid training to desensitize you a bit to blood and to have some muscle memory kick in to counter that instinctive panicked response would help. hope i never have to find out how i would react in such a terrible situation.

+1 I was shocked by the video of people fleeing too, but it is absolutely true none of us knows how we'd respond. I'm heartbroken at the thought of her dying with no-one comforting her though, and truly hope that was not the case.

We ALL failed her.

Nope. Not me. I had absolutely nothing to do with it, and you can take your assigning everyone microamounts of guilt and go pound sand.

[Anonymous]

Would change.org be the correct vehicle for petitioning Bowser and Norton and her pals in Congress?

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Anonymous wrote:A surveillance video was released from inside the restaurant where the victim went after she was stabbed. She's blurred out but you can see people running away from her.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6189359/Police-arrest-suspect-fatal-stabbing-newly-engaged-DC-jogger.html

that was posted above. I know it's natural to want to get away but DAMN that one guy is a coward. The store owner tried to help and others apparently ran in as well (not in video).

I hope the man and woman seen scrambling away in the video have told everyone they know that they were there when she came into the restaurant, and that their friends, family and coworkers all see the video. Cowards. Not to mention stupid to run out into the street where the attack had just happened.

Too bad you weren't there to be the hero.
Monday morning quarterbacking at its finest.

It's hard to pass judgement on how the restaurant patrons reacted if you've never been in a similar situation. It must have been very scary for a bleeding woman to run in like that.

Well, it’s a good thing that there are courageous people in the world to fill in for all the cowards then, isn’t it?

In the unblurred video on the same page, they kept slowing it down & freeze framing each step she took into the restaurant & then rewinding it & showing it again, multiple times. The man in the video not only runs out, but he actually PUSHES the girl he was with into Wendy as a means of putting space in between he & Wendy to get her away from him, then he turns tail & runs out.

Real brave guy... what a complete coward.

And yes, I understand what you’re saying about not knowing how we’d react in such a traumatic situation & I agree to a certain extent, but I do wholeheartedly believe that your true character plays heavily into this.
If you don’t have self confidence or

My husband was in a similar situation where he was down on a subway platform at 2am & saw a girl get mugged & also cut with a knife at the edge of the tracks..
She stumbled forward in my husbands direction & many other people coldly stepped back in disgust away from her as she was bleeding everywhere (they were disgusted even though they’d just witnessed this brutal crime on this innocent victim).
My husband ran forward to catch her as she fell, along with 2 other people (only 3 people out of 10 or 12 helped).

One of the women said she was a nurse & the man said he was a former lifeguard with first aid/CPR training, as soon as my husband heard that he helped lean the victim on the lifeguard & he sprang straight up the stairs in one leap chasing after the guy. He knew that once he hit Times Square, the odds were slim to none that he’d ever be identified, caught & charged.
He actually ended up tackling him on the second staircase going up (the guy had NO stamina) & my husband basically just sat on him until the cops got there.
His said his adrenaline kicked in after witnessing something as brazen & brutal as this to occur in front of a platform full of people & he just leapt without thinking knowing full well that he was the only thing standing between this guy making a clean getaway & paying the price for what he’d just done.
He told me that whenever he’s read one of these horrific stories in the past, that he'd always hoped if god-forbid myself or his mom or sisters were ever in this situation, that somebody... anybody.. would help us the same way.

The cops told him that these muggers depend on people being too shocked/scared to help the victim, let alone chase down a mugger.
It’s the fight, flight (or more often than not) freeze mechanism in our brains that muggers depend on to get away clean, as that also affects our recollection & details of the events. He said that two people standing side by side who just witnessed a robbery can see the same thing happen & have two totally different versions of the events, as far as what he looked like, what he was wearing, etc. He said it’s the brain’s way of managing the trauma you’ve just witnessed.

I’m very proud of my husband & how heroic he was, but I was also VERY freaked out as he went sprinting after a knife wielding madman, as he very well could have gotten himself killed going after the guy (although once I realized that the guy was only 5’6” probably 100 lbs & my husband is 6’5” 250lbs, I felt a tiny bit better).
That being said, I know THAT is my husbands character & I’m afraid that he will never, ever be the guy in the video who pushed his girlfriend(?) into the victim & then ran away. While their initial instinct was to run away, I know my husbands first instinct will ALWAYS be to run towards the danger to help.

Now, let me be clear... Im not saying it makes him f@cking genius when it comes to identifying danger, assessing risk & then running towards it anyway.
Not at all.
However, I know him, I know the person that he is... I know his character deep down inside.
His first instinct will never, ever be to run from a victim, even if it put him in the line of danger.

I know that he could never live with himself & the regret of knowing that something like this occurred & not only did he do nothing, but he ran away from her as she was dying.

I pray that Wendy is resting in peace & that this lunatic will be locked away forever.

[Anonymous]

This story is so sad. As is the story of the pregnant mom killed by her husband along with her two girls. What in the world has this world come to??

[Anonymous]

Stories like this make me think of moving back to my home country. The US has amazing innovation and all that, but it's unfortunately full of crazies.

[Anonymous]

It’s weird how people say Rest In Peace Wendy on here, like they knew her in person.

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Anonymous wrote:Stories like this make me think of moving back to my home country. The US has amazing innovation and all that, but it's unfortunately full of crazies.

I think the US is the same as many countries with less crime than some and more opportunities than others.

Google acid attacks in London or train decapitations in India some time.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s weird how people say Rest In Peace Wendy on here, like they knew her in person.

It’s called having a community spirit. And this being a DC board many of us did know her. I think I saw her running myself. Being good neighbors is never a bad thing.

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The person who wants to move back home has a good point - many places in the world are safer, either because they have more community or because honestly - their law enforcement is much more heavy handed. See how long you last walking down a the street muttering threats with a knife in a police state. DC specifically has some reasonable and legitimate crime strategies we could put in place - LEGISLATING hospitalisation of the mentally ill (it is going to come out that this guy had MULTIPLE warning signs), reducing our revolving door youth adjudication in DC specifically (responsible for nuisance crimes that escalate to serious violence , often in already traumatized neighborhoods) and the need for clear CCTV operated by the city- we have traffic cams to make money every third light, but for real crime I'm so tired of grainy business surveillance videos that good defense lawyers can make a hash out of.

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Anonymous wrote:The person who wants to move back home has a good point - many places in the world are safer, either because they have more community or because honestly - their law enforcement is much more heavy handed. See how long you last walking down a the street muttering threats with a knife in a police state. DC specifically has some reasonable and legitimate crime strategies we could put in place - LEGISLATING hospitalisation of the mentally ill (it is going to come out that this guy had MULTIPLE warning signs), reducing our revolving door youth adjudication in DC specifically (responsible for nuisance crimes that escalate to serious violence , often in already traumatized neighborhoods) and the need for clear CCTV operated by the city- we have traffic cams to make money every third light, but for real crime I'm so tired of grainy business surveillance videos that good defense lawyers can make a hash out of.

This is an excellent point. So much is acceptable in DC that would not be tolerated in many other US cities.

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Anonymous wrote:Would change.org be the correct vehicle for petitioning Bowser and Norton and her pals in Congress?

Petitioning them for what?

Making murder double-illegal?


What could've prevented this? Answer: nothing.


You can't go around locking up mentally ill people because you're scared of them, or think they *might* do something one day, but so far haven't.

Until people prove themselves a danger, we cannot as a society punish or confine them. We just can't.

Sometimes the first time they prove they're a danger, it's something like yesterday. That's unfortunate. But it's a rarity, not the rule. Most of the time they start with less serious things, and we need to identify and intervene rapidly when these people with these traits present themselves. But you simply cannot jail people preemptively.

Personally, I'd like to see every republican and self identified conservative confined to prison camps or exiled somewhere or frankly just disposed of. But I'm a minority opinion holder in that regard (at least for now). And I have to respect the views of those who profess that we should maintain a more civil discourse on this, for as long as the dominant opinion is that way. Same with how we handle the mentally ill, ironically.

We can't just lock them up. It's wrong. It costs us our humanity if we do that. It allows the worse side of our nature to win, and we can't do that.

[Anonymous]

Interesting how people are claiming to be heroic

To be honest, I don't think it's a bad thing. It might make them more likely to do the heroic thing when it happens if they've anyway imagined themselves doing it beforehand

I've personally done the "heroic" choice a handful of times, including separating women from a threatening man a few times, helping an injured bleeding man and, (the most dangerous one) saving a guy from being attacked by a deranged,drugged out man with a glass bottle for a weapon

I was proud of myself but, just like the PP, took a dumb(?) risk of being stabbed by broken glass

I always thought I would have liked to have been on the train when that guy was killed on the metro, but the truth is I'm not a martial arts expert and probably could have been stabbed and killed myself, especially since it's hard to imagine that i could have motivated strangers to help me.

One thing I remembered seeing online when it comes to the idea of taking on an armed attacker when you're unarmed... Imagine fighting someone with a sharpie pen.. do you think you could get it out of their hands before they make a single mark on your shirt? I don't know

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Anonymous wrote:Would change.org be the correct vehicle for petitioning Bowser and Norton and her pals in Congress?

Petitioning them for what?

Making murder double-illegal?


What could've prevented this? Answer: nothing.


You can't go around locking up mentally ill people because you're scared of them, or think they *might* do something one day, but so far haven't.

Until people prove themselves a danger, we cannot as a society punish or confine them. We just can't.

Sometimes the first time they prove they're a danger, it's something like yesterday. That's unfortunate. But it's a rarity, not the rule. Most of the time they start with less serious things, and we need to identify and intervene rapidly when these people with these traits present themselves. But you simply cannot jail people preemptively.

Personally, I'd like to see every republican and self identified conservative confined to prison camps or exiled somewhere or frankly just disposed of. But I'm a minority opinion holder in that regard (at least for now). And I have to respect the views of those who profess that we should maintain a more civil discourse on this, for as long as the dominant opinion is that way. Same with how we handle the mentally ill, ironically.

We can't just lock them up. It's wrong. It costs us our humanity if we do that. It allows the worse side of our nature to win, and we can't do that.

You personally would like to see the half of all voters who disagree with your liberal policies sent to prison? That's some nice, non-devivise attitude right there.