Husband confessed to killing pregnant wife and their two daughters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This guy doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent but I think that he thinks he's a lot smarter than he really is. He was used to pulling things over on people and thought that he could get away with it. But the cops were (A LOT) smarter than he was.

Honestly I think he would have gotten away with it. They would have never found those girls in the oil drums. Ever. Too large and too expensive to dump all of them without proof because the oil company would have fought it.

He could have moved the mom's body later as well or just left her where he buried her.

The only and I mean ONLY reason he got caught is because the best friend sounded the alarm less than six hours after the murder.

School was out of session too. He could have had 2 days or so to say they ran off and she was probably on her way back home to SC. The amber alert would have had to cover at minimum two states and more likely eight (the route between the states).

Meanwhile - no bodies, no crime.

I believe his next court appearance is in November. That's when more info. will be released.

He confessed right away probably because they told him they have photographic evidence of where his truck was. Traffic cameras, business cameras, satellite would track his truck to the oil field. They would find the bodies with scent dogs and searching. Once they found the wife obviously they would know the kids were nearby.
His plan was incredibly bad which makes me think it wasn't pre-planned. More like a rage killing, then haphazardly had to dispose of the bodies.

The cops knew he'd been at work since early am so they got aerial drone footage of that area that showed part of the girls' bedspread sticking out of the oil well. They'd already searched the house and seen part of the same bedding in the trash can (the patterns matched).

I find it more believeable that he planned it, at least the key details, than the theory that in the span of 3 hours or less he got worked up into a murderous rage, devised a plan to hide the evidence, drove 35 miles, buried one body and dumped two others, then presented at work as normal.

You have to admit he made some clever choices in a very short turnaround time - no murder weapon, no blood, good hiding place, plausible cover story. They might not have found the bodies for days or weeks if he hadn't confessed to hiding them (can cadaver dogs sniff out bodies submerged in oil?). And if the friend hadn't alerted cops so quickly he might have had time to go back and move Shanann's body to a more discrete location.

Thanks, I didn't read about the bedspread part. Didn't he think the cops would wonder why he was throwing bedspreads away?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This guy doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent but I think that he thinks he's a lot smarter than he really is. He was used to pulling things over on people and thought that he could get away with it. But the cops were (A LOT) smarter than he was.

Honestly I think he would have gotten away with it. They would have never found those girls in the oil drums. Ever. Too large and too expensive to dump all of them without proof because the oil company would have fought it.

He could have moved the mom's body later as well or just left her where he buried her.

The only and I mean ONLY reason he got caught is because the best friend sounded the alarm less than six hours after the murder.

School was out of session too. He could have had 2 days or so to say they ran off and she was probably on her way back home to SC. The amber alert would have had to cover at minimum two states and more likely eight (the route between the states).

Meanwhile - no bodies, no crime.

I believe his next court appearance is in November. That's when more info. will be released.

He confessed right away probably because they told him they have photographic evidence of where his truck was. Traffic cameras, business cameras, satellite would track his truck to the oil field. They would find the bodies with scent dogs and searching. Once they found the wife obviously they would know the kids were nearby.
His plan was incredibly bad which makes me think it wasn't pre-planned. More like a rage killing, then haphazardly had to dispose of the bodies.

The cops knew he'd been at work since early am so they got aerial drone footage of that area that showed part of the girls' bedspread sticking out of the oil well. They'd already searched the house and seen part of the same bedding in the trash can (the patterns matched).

I find it more believeable that he planned it, at least the key details, than the theory that in the span of 3 hours or less he got worked up into a murderous rage, devised a plan to hide the evidence, drove 35 miles, buried one body and dumped two others, then presented at work as normal.

You have to admit he made some clever choices in a very short turnaround time - no murder weapon, no blood, good hiding place, plausible cover story. They might not have found the bodies for days or weeks if he hadn't confessed to hiding them (can cadaver dogs sniff out bodies submerged in oil?). And if the friend hadn't alerted cops so quickly he might have had time to go back and move Shanann's body to a more discrete location.

Thanks, I didn't read about the bedspread part. Didn't he think the cops would wonder why he was throwing bedspreads away?

They could wonder all they want...better to get rid of incriminating evidence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent but I think that he thinks he's a lot smarter than he really is. He was used to pulling things over on people and thought that he could get away with it. But the cops were (A LOT) smarter than he was.

Honestly I think he would have gotten away with it. They would have never found those girls in the oil drums. Ever. Too large and too expensive to dump all of them without proof because the oil company would have fought it.

He could have moved the mom's body later as well or just left her where he buried her.

The only and I mean ONLY reason he got caught is because the best friend sounded the alarm less than six hours after the murder.

School was out of session too. He could have had 2 days or so to say they ran off and she was probably on her way back home to SC. The amber alert would have had to cover at minimum two states and more likely eight (the route between the states).

Meanwhile - no bodies, no crime.

I believe his next court appearance is in November. That's when more info. will be released.

He confessed right away probably because they told him they have photographic evidence of where his truck was. Traffic cameras, business cameras, satellite would track his truck to the oil field. They would find the bodies with scent dogs and searching. Once they found the wife obviously they would know the kids were nearby.
His plan was incredibly bad which makes me think it wasn't pre-planned. More like a rage killing, then haphazardly had to dispose of the bodies.

The cops knew he'd been at work since early am so they got aerial drone footage of that area that showed part of the girls' bedspread sticking out of the oil well. They'd already searched the house and seen part of the same bedding in the trash can (the patterns matched).

I find it more believeable that he planned it, at least the key details, than the theory that in the span of 3 hours or less he got worked up into a murderous rage, devised a plan to hide the evidence, drove 35 miles, buried one body and dumped two others, then presented at work as normal.

You have to admit he made some clever choices in a very short turnaround time - no murder weapon, no blood, good hiding place, plausible cover story. They might not have found the bodies for days or weeks if he hadn't confessed to hiding them (can cadaver dogs sniff out bodies submerged in oil?). And if the friend hadn't alerted cops so quickly he might have had time to go back and move Shanann's body to a more discrete location.

Thanks, I didn't read about the bedspread part. Didn't he think the cops would wonder why he was throwing bedspreads away?

They could wonder all they want...better to get rid of incriminating evidence.

This is part of the really bad planning. Seems like he could have put it ALL in the oil drum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent but I think that he thinks he's a lot smarter than he really is. He was used to pulling things over on people and thought that he could get away with it. But the cops were (A LOT) smarter than he was.

Honestly I think he would have gotten away with it. They would have never found those girls in the oil drums. Ever. Too large and too expensive to dump all of them without proof because the oil company would have fought it.

He could have moved the mom's body later as well or just left her where he buried her.

The only and I mean ONLY reason he got caught is because the best friend sounded the alarm less than six hours after the murder.

School was out of session too. He could have had 2 days or so to say they ran off and she was probably on her way back home to SC. The amber alert would have had to cover at minimum two states and more likely eight (the route between the states).

Meanwhile - no bodies, no crime.

I believe his next court appearance is in November. That's when more info. will be released.

He confessed right away probably because they told him they have photographic evidence of where his truck was. Traffic cameras, business cameras, satellite would track his truck to the oil field. They would find the bodies with scent dogs and searching. Once they found the wife obviously they would know the kids were nearby.
His plan was incredibly bad which makes me think it wasn't pre-planned. More like a rage killing, then haphazardly had to dispose of the bodies.

The cops knew he'd been at work since early am so they got aerial drone footage of that area that showed part of the girls' bedspread sticking out of the oil well. They'd already searched the house and seen part of the same bedding in the trash can (the patterns matched).

I find it more believeable that he planned it, at least the key details, than the theory that in the span of 3 hours or less he got worked up into a murderous rage, devised a plan to hide the evidence, drove 35 miles, buried one body and dumped two others, then presented at work as normal.

You have to admit he made some clever choices in a very short turnaround time - no murder weapon, no blood, good hiding place, plausible cover story. They might not have found the bodies for days or weeks if he hadn't confessed to hiding them (can cadaver dogs sniff out bodies submerged in oil?). And if the friend hadn't alerted cops so quickly he might have had time to go back and move Shanann's body to a more discrete location.

Thanks, I didn't read about the bedspread part. Didn't he think the cops would wonder why he was throwing bedspreads away?

They could wonder all they want...better to get rid of incriminating evidence.

This is part of the really bad planning. Seems like he could have put it ALL in the oil drum.

Well he's no Dexter Morgan. I don't think he thought the cops would be there poking around that soon, no. That's my theory for why it looks sloppy and "unplanned" - I think he was blindsided by the friend alerting the cops so quickly. He probably thought he'd have the evening afer work to continue the clean-up, maybe go back to the oil field in the cover of night and move the body that was buried in the shallow grave. I'm sure he had no idea about the aerial imagery, either.

[Anonymous]

It's so sick. I'm glad he was caught. Glad the friend sounded the alarm so quickly (I think that took courage, and probably a premonition or red flags that things were not right in that relationship). If it's true he was choking random women during hookups, I wonder if his wife had that experience too. It's crazy to think he could have gotten away with murdering his entire family.

[Anonymous]

Actually you guys are sick for talking about the details of murder of a woman and her babies for your mere entertainment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually you guys are sick for talking about the details of murder of a woman and her babies for your mere entertainment.

What would you prefer we do? Act like it didn’t happen? Act women aren’t murdered everyday through intimate partner violence?

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Anonymous wrote:Actually you guys are sick for talking about the details of murder of a woman and her babies for your mere entertainment.

What would you prefer we do? Act like it didn’t happen? Act women aren’t murdered everyday through intimate partner violence?

No, I’d prefer you acknowledge that it did happen and that unfortunately in this country women are most likely to be hurt or killed by their romantic partners. We should use this fact to educate, empower and protect women. Instead you all are writing pages rehashing the details of the murder of this poor woman and her children. And it seems like it’s mostly for your perverse curiosity and entertainment.

[Anonymous]

I’m the PP above. I just wanted to add that we should also mourn their loss and respect their memory rather than getting into the details of what contraption their bodies were found in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually you guys are sick for talking about the details of murder of a woman and her babies for your mere entertainment.

What would you prefer we do? Act like it didn’t happen? Act women aren’t murdered everyday through intimate partner violence?

No, I’d prefer you acknowledge that it did happen and that unfortunately in this country women are most likely to be hurt or killed by their romantic partners. We should use this fact to educate, empower and protect women. Instead you all are writing pages rehashing the details of the murder of this poor woman and her children. And it seems like it’s mostly for your perverse curiosity and entertainment.

I can understand why you might feel this way, but also I think it's natural and understandable with something this horrific for people to process what happened out loud in a communal way. I certainly don't find a bit of entertainment value in this discussion, but am truly horrified and dumbfounded and have found parts of this discussion helpful. And as always, some parts are less useful and maybe even "perverse" as you suggest. But to shame people for talking to each other about something shocking and horrific that happened seems a bit self righteous.

[Anonymous]

He just plead guilty to killing all three.

Feels like justice and honestly really quickly too - they disappeared on August 13th, found on August 16th, he plead guilty on Nov. 7th and now he's going to be sentenced on November 19th.

A Colorado man arrested in the killing of his pregnant wife and two young daughters pleaded guilty Tuesday to all charges against him as his wife's family looked on, holding each other and sobbing.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/colorado-dad-pleads-guilty-killing-pregnant-wife-daughters/story?id=58994078

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know why each of the daughters got two counts of murder and the mother only one?

Autopsies are sealed at the prosecuter's request though I'm not sure that has anything to do with the counts.

[Anonymous]

Good. What a monster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know why each of the daughters got two counts of murder and the mother only one?

Autopsies are sealed at the prosecuter's request though I'm not sure that has anything to do with the counts.

“Prosecutors brought two murder charges for each of the girls' deaths, the second of which cited the death of a child who "had not yet attained twelve years of age and the defendant was in a position of trust."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colorado-father-charged-5-counts-murder-deaths-wife-daughters-n902346

[Anonymous]

He'll get his in prison. Inmates don't like men who kill kids.