Roger Stone's Time in the Barrel

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Anonymous wrote:OK. If there is evidence he should be charged. Fair enough. But please tell me -- Why get him at 6 am, why put a chain around his waist in addition to handcuffs, why take him out in his pajamas without giving him a chance to change clothes? I feel like calling the FBI to complain.

Pretty much SOP for law enforcement. I am not sure why this is of any concern.

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Really? I didn't know it was SOP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really? I didn't know it was SOP.

Unfortunately, yes, it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK. If there is evidence he should be charged. Fair enough. But please tell me -- Why get him at 6 am, why put a chain around his waist in addition to handcuffs, why take him out in his pajamas without giving him a chance to change clothes? I feel like calling the FBI to complain.

“If there is evidence”, boy you are either pretty far gone or a shill. Either way your guys are as good af.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK. If there is evidence he should be charged. Fair enough. But please tell me -- Why get him at 6 am, why put a chain around his waist in addition to handcuffs, why take him out in his pajamas without giving him a chance to change clothes? I feel like calling the FBI to complain.

The fact that he's a traitor is good enough for me. It's not like he's being arrested for unpaid parking tickets (though he probably has a few of those).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The charges against Stone are slam dunks. There is no need for a trial and little chance of an effective defense. Mueller’s strategy is to squeeze Stone. He will give Stone some time to make big life choices. My guess is Stone will just play the martyr, go to jail, and hope for a pardon. His strategy is based on Trump staying in power.

Trump cannot pardon someone who is material to his own investigation. That would be furtherance of obstruction of justice.

Stone has a choice = spend the rest of his life in prison or cooperate.

He can absolutely pardon him if it comes to that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK. If there is evidence he should be charged. Fair enough. But please tell me -- Why get him at 6 am, why put a chain around his waist in addition to handcuffs, why take him out in his pajamas without giving him a chance to change clothes? I feel like calling the FBI to complain.

Don't start complaining to the FBI on behalf of a rich white guy. They do this stuff on the less fortunate too -- enhance your credibility by championing those people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Roger Stone is going on Tucker Carlson’s show tonight. Mueller has his DVR set.

What lawyer would allow his client to do that? Seems insane.

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Anonymous wrote:OK. If there is evidence he should be charged. Fair enough. But please tell me -- Why get him at 6 am, why put a chain around his waist in addition to handcuffs, why take him out in his pajamas without giving him a chance to change clothes? I feel like calling the FBI to complain.

Don't start complaining to the FBI on behalf of a rich white guy. They do this stuff on the less fortunate too -- enhance your credibility by championing those people.

Hmmm. Good point.

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Anonymous wrote:"the wall" was Stone's idea.

Stone has screwed Donald twice today.

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Anonymous wrote:How was CNN there to film the raid?

Explained upthread, they were aware of 'unusual' grand jury activity and surmised that a Stone arrest was in the offing.

My grandma lives near that area and there’s absolutely no parking in those ‘hoods. It had to be prearranged for CNN to get vans and crews in there. For sure.

CNN suspected there was something up because the grand jury met yesterday and it doesn’t usually meet on Thursdays. It’s called good journalism.

The story of the good journalism - https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/roger-stone-raid/index.html

And, this is why I think there is something more to this story:
"As of Thursday night, neither Stone nor his attorney believed he would be arrested on Friday morning. They also were convinced that Stone would have an opportunity to turn himself in, rather than an unexpected pre-dawn arrest at home."

Arrests of this type generally don't go down with 12 agents and guns drawn. It is usually an agreement. Interesting that CNN happened to show up an hour before the arrest and that it was as dramatic as it was.

There is more when it is a 14 year old AA kid with a dime bag. Who do you think you are kidding? They dodn't blow up doors or act like storm troopers, but you want to get evidence on site , so you need to act swiftly and with enough manpower (unpaid) to make it a successful operation.

Oh, FFS. Evidence? They have charged him with process crimes. He has stated numerous times that he thought he would be indicted. If he was going to destroy evidence, he would have done it long before today.
The dramatic arrest does not add up. Mueller, et al are acting like A$$holes.

Again, please explain to me how “process crimes“ differ from regular crimes. Is there a different criminal code? TIA!

Process crimes are crimes that are a result of the investigation. In other words, said individual had committed no crime PRIOR to the special counsel being created. The only crimes he is charged with are crimes that happened due to the counsel's existence.
Lying is always bad. Not excusing it - if he did lie. But, to make a leap and say this has anything to do with Russia is just a joke.
If Mueller had evidence of any kind of "collusion," you know damn well he would have been charged with it.
But, there is nothing in the indictment

Huh? The investigation started in 2017. Did you even read the indictment?

Why read the indictment when Fox news will tell them all they need to know?

He was charged with enough for the arrest, they are going to see if he is willing to make a deal in order to avoid jail.

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Anonymous wrote:The charges against Stone are slam dunks. There is no need for a trial and little chance of an effective defense. Mueller’s strategy is to squeeze Stone. He will give Stone some time to make big life choices. My guess is Stone will just play the martyr, go to jail, and hope for a pardon. His strategy is based on Trump staying in power.

Trump cannot pardon someone who is material to his own investigation. That would be furtherance of obstruction of justice.

Stone has a choice = spend the rest of his life in prison or cooperate.

He can absolutely pardon him if it comes to that.

“Coons took Barr through a thought experiment of when and how Trump’s potential actions to deflect scrutiny of himself would run afoul of the law. Could he offer to pardon a member of his administration to prevent negative testimony about illegal acts? No, Barr said — if a pardon was offered as “a quid pro quo to alter testimony, then that would definitely” be obstruction of justice under the law.

But if Trump offers to pardon a family member — or himself? There, Barr guessed, the political consequences might be more severe than the legal ones.

“In my opinion … yes, he does have the power to pardon a family member — but he would then have to face the fact that he could then be held accountable for abusing his power,” Barr said. “In the absence of a violation of a statute … then he’d be accountable politically.”

“Still, Barr stressed: “I believe the Russians interfered or attempted to interfere with the election, and I think we have to get to the bottom of it.” He also said under questioning that for a president to pardon someone in exchange for that person not incriminating him would be wrong: “That would be a crime.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/barr-confirmation-hearing-trumps-attorney-general-nominee-likely-to-face-tough-questioning-today-from-senate-panel/2019/01/15/02467a16-15e0-11e9-803c-4ef28312c8b9_story.html?utm_term=.8181cede656a

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I didn't know it was SOP.

Unfortunately, yes, it is.

Shortly after the story broke this morning, a CNN reporter said she had heard from Stone’s good friend the Manhattan Madam (I am not making this up). This person shares a duplex in nyc with her friend Roger stone. This lady got a call from the FBI warning her they were about to arrive and search but wanted to give her a heads up since she has a young child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK. If there is evidence he should be charged. Fair enough. But please tell me -- Why get him at 6 am, why put a chain around his waist in addition to handcuffs, why take him out in his pajamas without giving him a chance to change clothes? I feel like calling the FBI to complain.

Why not arrest him this way?

It's no better or worse than the way law enforcement treats regular criminals or suspects. Hell, the police shoot innocent people to death on a regular basis in this country.

Who gives two cents about how Roger Stone was arrested? And if you do care, please tell us why.

[Anonymous]

Who is next ? Banny, jr or kush ? Hope they burn all these mf grifters. God bless america bitches.