Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room

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Anonymous wrote:Using the word prude makes someone a potty mouth? You've just proven her point, Ms Prudy.

You are also redefining the discussion. OP referenced a five year old, within the rules at her pool. You fabricated pools that have rules for three year olds and then insisted that a three year olds need to be supervised did not trump your screwed up daughter's "need" to be comfortable.

Btw, my daughter is not comfortable in communal changing rooms. She is particularly uncomfortable around middle age women. Perhaps I should demand that you change elsewhere? After all, it's all about the ten year old's comfort isn't it? I thought that a reasonable parent would tell her to suck it up, but I guess I need to demand special treatment like you instead.

It was pointed out that you are nuts. You have no right to dictate what mothers do with their young children especially when it involves them being unsupervised. If you have a problem with the rules then you need to go elsewhere. End of story.

Your post is completely off base as to me:

I'm talking to the lady who told someone to f-themselves at least 2x.

I am not the poster about the 3 year old limit.

I do have a right to dictate what moms do with their kids if they aren't following the rules posted and to be applied to all. I'll bring it up to that mom and management every time I see it. I'll also address her directly.

It is not just about the girl's comfort. It is about the rules and why they are there and how they are for everyone.

If you addressed me I would tell you to mind your own business. If you got management, I would tell them they need to provide someone to assist that has had a criminal and other background check and child abuse check as well as cameras being in the room. If there are stalls, you go in the stalls. Problem solved. No one except young kids should be changing in the open but as a mom to a boy, his safety comes first. Obviously you do not have young kids or boys or you are one of those hands off parents whose kid is the one running wild and you ignore it till it bothers you.

What you are saying is you will harass someone because they are not doing it your way. I would call security or the police on you without thinking twice.

So, today, you expect us to just take our child out soaking wet into a freezing car and drive home to change him? Really, if you do, you lack pure common sense.

Girls will not care in less you care. You are not talking about a 15 year old. You are talking about 3-4-5-6-7 year old boys who need supervision.

The irony is if you had a child in the dressing room alone, you'd probably be complaining about where are the child's parents and why aren't they supervising them.

And if I were management, I would ban your crazy ass.

The management would ban you. They made a second class for my son as he was first on the waitlist. I doubt they will be banning us when they are so nice and welcoming.

Wait, you think they made a second class for just him? There had to be enough interest, several we're wait listed and a new class was formed. You cray cray.

they moved one child from the first class and there are two kids in the class. They only allow 4-5 kids per class and generally only hold one class per skill level. My son did great with them in the fall and they were very supportive of us coming back.

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The likelihood that someone is going to do something horrible to your snowflake while you are waiting outside the lockerroom is slim to none. You are scaring yourself to death over nothing and turning your children into dependent little freaks.

In that case do you send your five year old into a public rest room alone? I assume you must do.

I'm actually not to concerned about him being alone in a rest room except that I know that an adult would likely give me a dressing down for letting him go in alone. But I am concerned about locker rooms. It is well known that they are targets for abusers. Sure the risks are still low, but they are there and they are certainly not tiny. More real are the risks of bullying or being targeted by teens who seem to hang out unsupervised. No thanks. My five year old is staying with me. It's not my problem that you are a prude, really it's not.

For context, I'm somebody who generally thinks parents are overprotective. If I'm uncomfortable with my child changing alone and unsupervised around naked strangers then so would virtually everyone in America.

Yes. And I wait outside. They started going into restrooms at places like Target when they were 4.

The risks are tiny. Sexual assault or rape of a minor boy occurs in less than 1.4% of males. Of those assaults, less than 10% are committed by a stranger. The incidence rate for sexual assault on a minor boy is 2 in 1000. The likelihood of that happening at a public pool, while the boy's mother is waiting for him is pretty much zero.

If you are concerned about your child's safety look to your relatives, youth pastor, priest, teachers, or coaches.

Meanwhile, stop teaching your kids that the world is a terrifying place that is full of people who want to hurt them. Most people are good people. Your neighbors and people in your city aren't madmen who want to rape and murder children. They're just people, just like you.

This is utter bullshit. I do not know a single child who is capable of going into a Target restroom at 4 years old by him or herself. This thread is so heavily rife with trollers and bullshitters that I don't see why we are even continuing the discussion. My child isn't tall enough to reach the faucets or the paper towels at many public restrooms and he's 5. I wouldn't want my kids touching the toilet with their hands - or navigating that nasty shit by themselves. At 4 years old, I don't think kids can be trusted not to do random weird stuff, like decide today's the day they want to check out what's inside that little trashcan inside the ladies room. And if you want to say NOT MY SALLY I'm sorry - yes, your Sally too. Sorry - no way this is real, and if it is, you're not a responsible parent in any way.

It is not about the kids being capable or common sense of helping and supervising their kids but about their need and about them and helping their kid takes too much effort.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not have a husband and I just took my small 9 yr old into the womens' bathroom with me at a rest stop on 95 a few days ago. I usually allow him to use the mens' room nearly everywhere else but not there. As long as your son isn't staring at women/girls while they are changing, I don't see what the big deal is.

so glad to hear you take him in with you. It really disturbs me when parents allow their young children to go alone in public restrooms such as the one you mentioned above. What people fail to realize is it only takes a few seconds for something to occur.

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Anonymous wrote:In the immortal words of Martin Crane, "People stink." Don't let her get to you, OP.

LOVED Martin Crane. LOVED that show.

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Teach him to do the helicopter. Next time he can put on a show.

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The likelihood that someone is going to do something horrible to your snowflake while you are waiting outside the lockerroom is slim to none. You are scaring yourself to death over nothing and turning your children into dependent little freaks.

In that case do you send your five year old into a public rest room alone? I assume you must do.

I'm actually not to concerned about him being alone in a rest room except that I know that an adult would likely give me a dressing down for letting him go in alone. But I am concerned about locker rooms. It is well known that they are targets for abusers. Sure the risks are still low, but they are there and they are certainly not tiny. More real are the risks of bullying or being targeted by teens who seem to hang out unsupervised. No thanks. My five year old is staying with me. It's not my problem that you are a prude, really it's not.

For context, I'm somebody who generally thinks parents are overprotective. If I'm uncomfortable with my child changing alone and unsupervised around naked strangers then so would virtually everyone in America.

Yes. And I wait outside. They started going into restrooms at places like Target when they were 4.

The risks are tiny. Sexual assault or rape of a minor boy occurs in less than 1.4% of males. Of those assaults, less than 10% are committed by a stranger. The incidence rate for sexual assault on a minor boy is 2 in 1000. The likelihood of that happening at a public pool, while the boy's mother is waiting for him is pretty much zero.

If you are concerned about your child's safety look to your relatives, youth pastor, priest, teachers, or coaches.

Meanwhile, stop teaching your kids that the world is a terrifying place that is full of people who want to hurt them. Most people are good people. Your neighbors and people in your city aren't madmen who want to rape and murder children. They're just people, just like you.

This is utter bullshit. I do not know a single child who is capable of going into a Target restroom at 4 years old by him or herself. This thread is so heavily rife with trollers and bullshitters that I don't see why we are even continuing the discussion. My child isn't tall enough to reach the faucets or the paper towels at many public restrooms and he's 5. I wouldn't want my kids touching the toilet with their hands - or navigating that nasty shit by themselves. At 4 years old, I don't think kids can be trusted not to do random weird stuff, like decide today's the day they want to check out what's inside that little trashcan inside the ladies room. And if you want to say NOT MY SALLY I'm sorry - yes, your Sally too. Sorry - no way this is real, and if it is, you're not a responsible parent in any way.

Interesting that you mention 4 yr olds navigating the restrooms. My son is 4.5 and the other day at the pool he announced he needed to go to the bathroom to his swim teacher. She signaled to me to come get him. But before I could reach him, he was out of the pool and into the ladies room. I followed him in there and asked if he was ok. He told me he was fine, he wanted to do it himself, and could I wait outside. So I did. And he walked out with his bathing suit up and went back to class. It was a surprise to me that he could be this independent.

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The likelihood that someone is going to do something horrible to your snowflake while you are waiting outside the lockerroom is slim to none. You are scaring yourself to death over nothing and turning your children into dependent little freaks.

In that case do you send your five year old into a public rest room alone? I assume you must do.

I'm actually not to concerned about him being alone in a rest room except that I know that an adult would likely give me a dressing down for letting him go in alone. But I am concerned about locker rooms. It is well known that they are targets for abusers. Sure the risks are still low, but they are there and they are certainly not tiny. More real are the risks of bullying or being targeted by teens who seem to hang out unsupervised. No thanks. My five year old is staying with me. It's not my problem that you are a prude, really it's not.

For context, I'm somebody who generally thinks parents are overprotective. If I'm uncomfortable with my child changing alone and unsupervised around naked strangers then so would virtually everyone in America.

Yes. And I wait outside. They started going into restrooms at places like Target when they were 4.

The risks are tiny. Sexual assault or rape of a minor boy occurs in less than 1.4% of males. Of those assaults, less than 10% are committed by a stranger. The incidence rate for sexual assault on a minor boy is 2 in 1000. The likelihood of that happening at a public pool, while the boy's mother is waiting for him is pretty much zero.

If you are concerned about your child's safety look to your relatives, youth pastor, priest, teachers, or coaches.

Meanwhile, stop teaching your kids that the world is a terrifying place that is full of people who want to hurt them. Most people are good people. Your neighbors and people in your city aren't madmen who want to rape and murder children. They're just people, just like you.

This is utter bullshit. I do not know a single child who is capable of going into a Target restroom at 4 years old by him or herself. This thread is so heavily rife with trollers and bullshitters that I don't see why we are even continuing the discussion. My child isn't tall enough to reach the faucets or the paper towels at many public restrooms and he's 5. I wouldn't want my kids touching the toilet with their hands - or navigating that nasty shit by themselves. At 4 years old, I don't think kids can be trusted not to do random weird stuff, like decide today's the day they want to check out what's inside that little trashcan inside the ladies room. And if you want to say NOT MY SALLY I'm sorry - yes, your Sally too. Sorry - no way this is real, and if it is, you're not a responsible parent in any way.

Yes. Both of my boys starting going to the restroom alone as soon as they were potty trained and could reliably wipe themselves. Sinks in Target are placed low for people in wheelchairs. I waited for them outside the door. If they were screwing around, I could hear it and I would open the door and yell at them to knock it off. There are no little trashcans in the men's room, so that wasn't an issue.

The fact that you don't know ANY kids who are old enough to go to preschool but cant toilet alone says a whole lot about what is wrong with your kids and others in your community. You might want to slow down on the helicoptering just a little, or you're going to be wiping their ass at prom. You are crippling your children by refusing to teach them to be independent.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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The likelihood that someone is going to do something horrible to your snowflake while you are waiting outside the lockerroom is slim to none. You are scaring yourself to death over nothing and turning your children into dependent little freaks.

In that case do you send your five year old into a public rest room alone? I assume you must do.

I'm actually not to concerned about him being alone in a rest room except that I know that an adult would likely give me a dressing down for letting him go in alone. But I am concerned about locker rooms. It is well known that they are targets for abusers. Sure the risks are still low, but they are there and they are certainly not tiny. More real are the risks of bullying or being targeted by teens who seem to hang out unsupervised. No thanks. My five year old is staying with me. It's not my problem that you are a prude, really it's not.

For context, I'm somebody who generally thinks parents are overprotective. If I'm uncomfortable with my child changing alone and unsupervised around naked strangers then so would virtually everyone in America.

Yes. And I wait outside. They started going into restrooms at places like Target when they were 4.

The risks are tiny. Sexual assault or rape of a minor boy occurs in less than 1.4% of males. Of those assaults, less than 10% are committed by a stranger. The incidence rate for sexual assault on a minor boy is 2 in 1000. The likelihood of that happening at a public pool, while the boy's mother is waiting for him is pretty much zero.

If you are concerned about your child's safety look to your relatives, youth pastor, priest, teachers, or coaches.

Meanwhile, stop teaching your kids that the world is a terrifying place that is full of people who want to hurt them. Most people are good people. Your neighbors and people in your city aren't madmen who want to rape and murder children. They're just people, just like you.

This is utter bullshit. I do not know a single child who is capable of going into a Target restroom at 4 years old by him or herself. This thread is so heavily rife with trollers and bullshitters that I don't see why we are even continuing the discussion. My child isn't tall enough to reach the faucets or the paper towels at many public restrooms and he's 5. I wouldn't want my kids touching the toilet with their hands - or navigating that nasty shit by themselves. At 4 years old, I don't think kids can be trusted not to do random weird stuff, like decide today's the day they want to check out what's inside that little trashcan inside the ladies room. And if you want to say NOT MY SALLY I'm sorry - yes, your Sally too. Sorry - no way this is real, and if it is, you're not a responsible parent in any way.

Yes. Both of my boys starting going to the restroom alone as soon as they were potty trained and could reliably wipe themselves. Sinks in Target are placed low for people in wheelchairs. I waited for them outside the door. If they were screwing around, I could hear it and I would open the door and yell at them to knock it off. There are no little trashcans in the men's room, so that wasn't an issue.

The fact that you don't know ANY kids who are old enough to go to preschool but cant toilet alone says a whole lot about what is wrong with your kids and others in your community. You might want to slow down on the helicoptering just a little, or you're going to be wiping their ass at prom. You are crippling your children by refusing to teach them to be independent.

Target bathrooms are gross. Saw feces on toilet paper there and a lady actually blew her nose into the sink! Nasty. People are just so utterly disgusting sometimes

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Ugh, stop feminizing your boys ladies. Send them to the goddamn male locker room.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh, stop feminizing your boys ladies. Send them to the goddamn male locker room.

Not by himself at age 5. WTF!

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh, stop feminizing your boys ladies. Send them to the goddamn male locker room.

TROLL ALERT.

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Anonymous wrote:Some woman "insisted" you were lying about your son's age? My response would have been, "You can choose to believe what you want. He's 5, it's okay for him to be here with me, and you need to move away from us right now before I speak with management."

Had the same issue with my son. She started pointing and yacking when he was in the shower so I said to her 'why are you staring at the private parts of young children exactly?' She went away.

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My gym has a rule- no children of the opposite sex over age 2 in the locker rooms. They provide very nice family locker rooms. 5 year old boys don't belong in the women's locker room, sorry (mom of two boys and one girl)

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This isn't about modesty, or inappropriate sexual interactions, it's about consideration of other people's feelings and following the rules.
1. There is a rule about kids ages in respective locker rooms. Please respect them
2. Other people have feelings too, respect them. Your feelings and convenience do not always trump other people's feelings.

Wht is everyone so dismissive of the "old and gross" lady's feelings? It makes her really uncomfortable to undress in front of a little boy. I respect those feelings!

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Locker room age rules and old lady discomfort is ONLY valid if multiple family changing rooms are available.