Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette

[Anonymous]

So much smoking. I keep thinking, maybe it was a food thing they died young vs now having lung cancer.

The last episode was the worst: the tortured fighting between the two of them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much smoking. I keep thinking, maybe it was a food thing they died young vs now having lung cancer.

The last episode was the worst: the tortured fighting between the two of them

The fighting was dumb and highly manufactured.

Remember: this isn’t a documentary; they’re just making stuff up. Nobody knows what went on behind closed doors. I’m sure Princess Diana’s death wasn’t a big turning point for them. And she’s coming across as really weak and anxiety ridden and I doubt she was that extra.

[Anonymous]

The Diana death bothers me. It happened on a Saturday night and wasn’t reported in the US until around midnight then all day Sunday. In this, it happens on a week night

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Diana death bothers me. It happened on a Saturday night and wasn’t reported in the US until around midnight then all day Sunday. In this, it happens on a week night

Yes! I don’t know why this bothered me to no end. Freshman year of college and it was sometime around SNL - maybe they broke in? All I remember is people going around and talking about it and watching the news after midnight. Not in the evening and not on a weeknight.

[Anonymous]

the last episode was so bad. just an hour of the same scene. I think they could have cut that down 45 minutes and told some more story.

and yes - princess diana dies early sunday, meaning it was late news for us on Saturday.

and they skipped a year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Diana death bothers me. It happened on a Saturday night and wasn’t reported in the US until around midnight then all day Sunday. In this, it happens on a week night

Yes! I don’t know why this bothered me to no end. Freshman year of college and it was sometime around SNL - maybe they broke in? All I remember is people going around and talking about it and watching the news after midnight. Not in the evening and not on a weeknight.

+1 it was Labor Day weekend, no way they were in Manhattan. I do buy that it bugged Carolyn though because the paparazzi played such a huge role in her death and they were hounding Carolyn (and John) as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Diana death bothers me. It happened on a Saturday night and wasn’t reported in the US until around midnight then all day Sunday. In this, it happens on a week night

Yup, that bothered me too and I was maybe 14 at the time. It’s a huge detail that took me out of the moment.

[Anonymous]

Imagine going out to eat in 1995 & the 2 people who accompany you are Princess Diana & JFK Jr. Anybody here think the conversation would be even slightly interesting?

[Anonymous]

I actually really liked the fight scene. I don’t know that a couple at that stage would have that level of insight into their issues but I liked it anyway. Having been married for a long time I just feel like it would take people years to unpack some of what they were unpacking, but I found it pretty compelling.

I also thought it was super sad that even though they were in a horrible fight, all she wanted him to do is stay and he couldn’t even do that.

He just never developed beyond that little boy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually really liked the fight scene. I don’t know that a couple at that stage would have that level of insight into their issues but I liked it anyway. Having been married for a long time I just feel like it would take people years to unpack some of what they were unpacking, but I found it pretty compelling.

I also thought it was super sad that even though they were in a horrible fight, all she wanted him to do is stay and he couldn’t even do that.

He just never developed beyond that little boy.

Selfish and immature…and not that bright.

These two people really weren’t the characters portrayed in the series. They were essentially privileged and self-centered…and really immature.

But this is tv. It’s not real. And every fight and conversation is just a story. It’s not a documentary.

My two cents: he pursued her because she made him chase her. That was a novelty. But eventually he was hoping she would fall in line and act like his sister and Kennedy relatives: do something noble (as a job or volunteer) and pop out a few babies. His image mattered to him and he wanted the security of family (which he obviously valued). They were a mismatch from the start—a passionate fling that burned brighter and longer than the universe expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually really liked the fight scene. I don’t know that a couple at that stage would have that level of insight into their issues but I liked it anyway. Having been married for a long time I just feel like it would take people years to unpack some of what they were unpacking, but I found it pretty compelling.

I also thought it was super sad that even though they were in a horrible fight, all she wanted him to do is stay and he couldn’t even do that.

He just never developed beyond that little boy.

Selfish and immature…and not that bright.

These two people really weren’t the characters portrayed in the series. They were essentially privileged and self-centered…and really immature.

But this is tv. It’s not real. And every fight and conversation is just a story. It’s not a documentary.

My two cents: he pursued her because she made him chase her. That was a novelty. But eventually he was hoping she would fall in line and act like his sister and Kennedy relatives: do something noble (as a job or volunteer) and pop out a few babies. His image mattered to him and he wanted the security of family (which he obviously valued). They were a mismatch from the start—a passionate fling that burned brighter and longer than the universe expected.

It may be your two cents, but that is exactly what Carolyn pointed out in her fight with him.

I feel like everyone commenting understands it is not a documentary, but clearly there are some real elements. We don’t know what they fought about or what it looked like, but we do know that they fought, and clearly she felt like he had lost interest in her once he “got” her and clearly he was not prepared to compromise or give much to make things work.

What I liked about that scene was I feel like that could describe a lot of marriages not just JFK Jr. Nothing really prepares us for marriage, and we just have to go through the struggles of realizing we married one version of a person, but to build a life with them and succeed, we have to accept the whole package and it works best if both people are willing to work out their crap and grow up.

They died young so we won’t ever know but it does seem likely they were going to split.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Diana death bothers me. It happened on a Saturday night and wasn’t reported in the US until around midnight then all day Sunday. In this, it happens on a week night

Yup, that bothered me too and I was maybe 14 at the time. It’s a huge detail that took me out of the moment.

omg it bothered me too. She died on my 17th birthday which was Aug 31. In the show it was Aug 30, and yes Diana died early morning in Europe so it was technically the 31st over there but they got so many details wrong.

[Anonymous]

I thought they handled the crash well and wrapped it up with Caroline’s grief speech—nice touch.

I thought the last episode made Carolyn look selfish/needy/demanding. The therapy seemed to be a wake up call, they had a night of great sex and the next day he’s happy and off to work while assuming they were in a better place and moving in the right direction and she pitches a fit like only a crazy woman would.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought they handled the crash well and wrapped it up with Caroline’s grief speech—nice touch.

I thought the last episode made Carolyn look selfish/needy/demanding. The therapy seemed to be a wake up call, they had a night of great sex and the next day he’s happy and off to work while assuming they were in a better place and moving in the right direction and she pitches a fit like only a crazy woman would.

In real life he never came home that week and I believe his ex Julie Bush came over the night before the crash.

[Anonymous]

"Crash" scene was one of the most ghoulish things I'd ever seen. Especially since that's not even how it happened. (Carolyn was found buckled into a rear seat, I believe.)