80% of women swipe on just 20% of men on dating apps

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

LOL, it’s not that clear to me. They might stick around because they have no other dates.

It’s ok to not have sex for the first 5 dates, but it’s on the long side, and some men will interpret it as lack of chemistry and move on, while she’ll be left with the undesirable ones without options.

In my experience as a woman having sex too early doesn’t improve chances of it becoming a LTR. Often men insist on date 2-3 because they want a mid term side piece during the weekdays, have things to hide like drugs usage, or married. It’s not enough time to screen a man

No man ever didn’t get into a LTR because the woman slept with him too early. She wasn’t LTR material for him to begin with.

It’s true that some men just want sex, or one night stands, and if it’s not what you want you need to screen them. I don’t think the no sex on the first five dates is effective.

You cannot speak for all men. YOU wouldn’t continue to date someone who won’t f*** you after 4 dates, YOU wouldn’t dump them and move on. You cannot speak for everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

LOL, it’s not that clear to me. They might stick around because they have no other dates.

It’s ok to not have sex for the first 5 dates, but it’s on the long side, and some men will interpret it as lack of chemistry and move on, while she’ll be left with the undesirable ones without options.

In my experience as a woman having sex too early doesn’t improve chances of it becoming a LTR. Often men insist on date 2-3 because they want a mid term side piece during the weekdays, have things to hide like drugs usage, or married. It’s not enough time to screen a man

No man ever didn’t get into a LTR because the woman slept with him too early. She wasn’t LTR material for him to begin with.

It’s true that some men just want sex, or one night stands, and if it’s not what you want you need to screen them. I don’t think the no sex on the first five dates is effective.

You cannot speak for all men. YOU wouldn’t continue to date someone who won’t f*** you after 4 dates, YOU wouldn’t dump them and move on. You cannot speak for everyone else.

It’s after 5 dates, and I don’t know why you’re so triggered. People are dating to find a partnership that includes having sex so they’ll try to figure out if they are compatible in this area.

At that point I’d definitely wonder what kind of relationship she wants, ie platonic friendship, or if she’s not into me or sex to begin with, maybe dating a bunch of other guys and still deciding on which, or just wanting free entertainment, dinners, drinks and an ego boost. All signaling it’s not a good fit and look elsewhere.

It’s ok to wait 5 dates, but at least make an effort, pay for your meal, put time and planning into dates, have some chemistry in the interaction, kissing etc.

Confused about what’s inappropriate about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

LOL, it’s not that clear to me. They might stick around because they have no other dates.

It’s ok to not have sex for the first 5 dates, but it’s on the long side, and some men will interpret it as lack of chemistry and move on, while she’ll be left with the undesirable ones without options.

In my experience as a woman having sex too early doesn’t improve chances of it becoming a LTR. Often men insist on date 2-3 because they want a mid term side piece during the weekdays, have things to hide like drugs usage, or married. It’s not enough time to screen a man

No man ever didn’t get into a LTR because the woman slept with him too early. She wasn’t LTR material for him to begin with.

It’s true that some men just want sex, or one night stands, and if it’s not what you want you need to screen them. I don’t think the no sex on the first five dates is effective.

You cannot speak for all men. YOU wouldn’t continue to date someone who won’t f*** you after 4 dates, YOU wouldn’t dump them and move on. You cannot speak for everyone else.

It’s after 5 dates, and I don’t know why you’re so triggered. People are dating to find a partnership that includes having sex so they’ll try to figure out if they are compatible in this area.

At that point I’d definitely wonder what kind of relationship she wants, ie platonic friendship, or if she’s not into me or sex to begin with, maybe dating a bunch of other guys and still deciding on which, or just wanting free entertainment, dinners, drinks and an ego boost. All signaling it’s not a good fit and look elsewhere.

It’s ok to wait 5 dates, but at least make an effort, pay for your meal, put time and planning into dates, have some chemistry in the interaction, kissing etc.

Confused about what’s inappropriate about it.

DP. Would you just drop her or would you ask her where is this going? Most -- not all! -- most women want exclusivity before sleeping together. Do you offer that if you are interested in something serious? I don't know man, dating seems way harder than it use to be and for no good reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

LOL, it’s not that clear to me. They might stick around because they have no other dates.

It’s ok to not have sex for the first 5 dates, but it’s on the long side, and some men will interpret it as lack of chemistry and move on, while she’ll be left with the undesirable ones without options.

In my experience as a woman having sex too early doesn’t improve chances of it becoming a LTR. Often men insist on date 2-3 because they want a mid term side piece during the weekdays, have things to hide like drugs usage, or married. It’s not enough time to screen a man

No man ever didn’t get into a LTR because the woman slept with him too early. She wasn’t LTR material for him to begin with.

It’s true that some men just want sex, or one night stands, and if it’s not what you want you need to screen them. I don’t think the no sex on the first five dates is effective.

You cannot speak for all men. YOU wouldn’t continue to date someone who won’t f*** you after 4 dates, YOU wouldn’t dump them and move on. You cannot speak for everyone else.

It’s after 5 dates, and I don’t know why you’re so triggered. People are dating to find a partnership that includes having sex so they’ll try to figure out if they are compatible in this area.

At that point I’d definitely wonder what kind of relationship she wants, ie platonic friendship, or if she’s not into me or sex to begin with, maybe dating a bunch of other guys and still deciding on which, or just wanting free entertainment, dinners, drinks and an ego boost. All signaling it’s not a good fit and look elsewhere.

It’s ok to wait 5 dates, but at least make an effort, pay for your meal, put time and planning into dates, have some chemistry in the interaction, kissing etc.

Confused about what’s inappropriate about it.

DP. Would you just drop her or would you ask her where is this going? Most -- not all! -- most women want exclusivity before sleeping together. Do you offer that if you are interested in something serious? I don't know man, dating seems way harder than it use to be and for no good reason.

Do you expect men to put effort into planning for a date, paying for dinners, drinks and entertainment, just for the privilege of being vetted by you? It’s ok to set up low effort dates like coffee, pay for the first date, plan something fun, but if this is the norm while getting a cold hug at the end of the evening, it’s not getting to the fifth date. It’s also on you to communicate what you want early as to not waste everyone’s time.

These days people are not exclusive before sleeping together, sounds like you’ve been out of the market for a while. Why would you be exclusive with someone you barely know? It takes 3-6 months to figure that out.

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Both parties should go dutch with any and all expenses so they are on equal footing to evaluate if they want to go steady and explore intimacy and other aspects of the relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

LOL, it’s not that clear to me. They might stick around because they have no other dates.

It’s ok to not have sex for the first 5 dates, but it’s on the long side, and some men will interpret it as lack of chemistry and move on, while she’ll be left with the undesirable ones without options.

In my experience as a woman having sex too early doesn’t improve chances of it becoming a LTR. Often men insist on date 2-3 because they want a mid term side piece during the weekdays, have things to hide like drugs usage, or married. It’s not enough time to screen a man

No man ever didn’t get into a LTR because the woman slept with him too early. She wasn’t LTR material for him to begin with.

It’s true that some men just want sex, or one night stands, and if it’s not what you want you need to screen them. I don’t think the no sex on the first five dates is effective.

You cannot speak for all men. YOU wouldn’t continue to date someone who won’t f*** you after 4 dates, YOU wouldn’t dump them and move on. You cannot speak for everyone else.

It’s after 5 dates, and I don’t know why you’re so triggered. People are dating to find a partnership that includes having sex so they’ll try to figure out if they are compatible in this area.

At that point I’d definitely wonder what kind of relationship she wants, ie platonic friendship, or if she’s not into me or sex to begin with, maybe dating a bunch of other guys and still deciding on which, or just wanting free entertainment, dinners, drinks and an ego boost. All signaling it’s not a good fit and look elsewhere.

It’s ok to wait 5 dates, but at least make an effort, pay for your meal, put time and planning into dates, have some chemistry in the interaction, kissing etc.

Confused about what’s inappropriate about it.

DP. Would you just drop her or would you ask her where is this going? Most -- not all! -- most women want exclusivity before sleeping together. Do you offer that if you are interested in something serious? I don't know man, dating seems way harder than it use to be and for no good reason.

Do you expect men to put effort into planning for a date, paying for dinners, drinks and entertainment, just for the privilege of being vetted by you? It’s ok to set up low effort dates like coffee, pay for the first date, plan something fun, but if this is the norm while getting a cold hug at the end of the evening, it’s not getting to the fifth date. It’s also on you to communicate what you want early as to not waste everyone’s time.

These days people are not exclusive before sleeping together, sounds like you’ve been out of the market for a while. Why would you be exclusive with someone you barely know? It takes 3-6 months to figure that out.

I’m a woman and I pay for social interactions which are established - my child, friends and parents. Men are the ones who are “sampling” multiple women and are more likely to sleep just to get p…y. Men should pay for all dates until he offers exclusivity imho. This would raise the barrier to get sex and require them to focus on woman they really like. It prevents abuse. It’s not that expensive you can put together a date under $100. It does get expensive if you date multiple women at a time. If you are concerned about not getting sex - get an escort

In my experience men “vote” with wallets: their affection is where their wallet is. I had couple relationships when I was sleeping with guys and they were traveling with other women and lying to me that they went with kids, for example. I’m not paying for those non-exclusive dates.

Once I changed my approach and started dating only those who invested, situation changed in positive ways. I do show my interest - make out sessions, a hand job, lingerie pics, before the actual sex. I make my intent to have sex clear by asking them have protection and be able to show their recent std test. Can’t be more explicit showing my interest.

Also, women spend more on wardrobe and looks so men should pay for the dates.

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Men should be providers after marriage until kids are in preschool. Before and after men and women are equally responsible for money and chores unless they see another type of setup as mutually agreeable and beneficial, for example one person holding home front and other money front or one taking on 60% money with 40% chores etc.

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Before pregnancy, married or dating, both are equally responsible for their own expenses.

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Anonymous wrote:Both parties should go dutch with any and all expenses so they are on equal footing to evaluate if they want to go steady and explore intimacy and other aspects of the relationship.

Nope, women spend more on looks. He can go date other women but my man pays for the dates before exclusivity.

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Anonymous wrote:Before pregnancy, married or dating, both are equally responsible for their own expenses.

Nope - men abuse platforms using women for free hookups and ONSs under a premise of relationship.
I don’t share expenses until exclusivity is discussed and agreed upon. Dates don’t need to be crazily expensive.
Women are still making less money and are spending higher proportion of their income on the looks. It’s more expensive to be a woman in dating and she takes more risks - infections, apps abuse, sexual harassment, lying etc.

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Are you seriously taking a statistic from a TV show???

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Anonymous wrote:Are you seriously taking a statistic from a TV show???

No but we are just discussing how to prevent abuse of apps. Read the red piller couple pages above - he’s literally saying he uses apps to get free ho..s

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Anonymous wrote:Before pregnancy, married or dating, both are equally responsible for their own expenses.

Nope - men abuse platforms using women for free hookups and ONSs under a premise of relationship.
I don’t share expenses until exclusivity is discussed and agreed upon. Dates don’t need to be crazily expensive.
Women are still making less money and are spending higher proportion of their income on the looks. It’s more expensive to be a woman in dating and she takes more risks - infections, apps abuse, sexual harassment, lying etc.

How many relationships have you been in that work like this? Like he’ll pay for everything until you agree to be exclusive and then you give sex and pay half of everything? Of all the things that didn’t happen, this didn’t happen the most.

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Anonymous wrote:Both parties should go dutch with any and all expenses so they are on equal footing to evaluate if they want to go steady and explore intimacy and other aspects of the relationship.

Nope, women spend more on looks. He can go date other women but my man pays for the dates before exclusivity.

How’s that working for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Studies have consistently found that women only swipe on the top 20% of men.

These repeatable results mean that 80% of men will experience perpetual rejection if they try to date.

No wonder there is a loneliness epidemic in the United States. This needs to stop.


How do we reverse / stop this from happening ?

It is not women's jobs to make men not lonely. Sorry. Not sorry