80% of women swipe on just 20% of men on dating apps

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

Imagine a world where you have chemistry, but you don’t have sex right away.

Imagine a world where you have chemistry, but don’t have sex right away until he proves himself worthy. I’m sure that worked well for you so far.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

Wow, with this kind of attitude I’m sure the women are lining up around the block for you!

Why do you even date women if you hate them so much? You don’t seem interested in them as a person, just a hole to F. There are easier ways for that, they charge by the hour.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, men will sleep with almost any woman, while women are generally more picky about bed partners since pregnancy is a big risk to their life and long term well being. This is basic biology and hard wired into us, it’s not surprising that it manifests in all mating rituals.

No some men will sleep with any women. The percentage of men who will sleep with any woman is actually fairly small. If all men would sleep with any woman women would never complain about not finding a man. You could just go up to any man you wanted and he would sleep with you.

Men with options will only sleep with women above a certain level. If a guy's an 8 he's going to have a steady stream of 5's and 6's trying to get with him so there's no reason to bring himself down to banging 2's and 3's.

Men without options will sleep with nearly anyone if they've had a long enough dry spell and have a healthy sex drive.

It's weird how it's hard for you to admit that men who are "an 8" are likely dating women who are also "an 8." Like, you are really doubling down on "5s and 6s" chasing after these men.

I mean, look, I can't say because I don't believe you can quantify people's looks into a score, but I do think people naturally are drawn to equally good looking people.

It's always going to take more time and effort to casually sleep with women on your level than 1 or 2 leagues below you, which is why 8's sleep with 5's and 6's. It's not that they cant get 8's but the 6's are just easier and faster. You sound like you don't understand men (young men especially). Men love variety and aren't that picky with who they sleep with as long as she's semi attractive and he doesn't need to try too hard.

I know we are not supposed to use the R-word anymore but I am trying very, very hard not to call you it right now.

Are you seriously trying to argue that an attractive man won't play the field with less attractive women and use them for one night stands? You're living under a rock if you think this isn't occurring. Forget the numbers, they're not meant to be taken literally. It's to illustrate the concept of men being less picky about who they bang vs who they date/marry, and this dynamic is being magnified x10 on dating apps. A few hot men are inundated with matches from a multitude of women and use them for casual hookups.

Why don’t you just pay a prostitute? Why do you pester women on dating apps if you just want to “use them for casual hookups”? Too cheap?

Lots of men are using apps essentially as tool for free escort. They also lie to women wanting relationships or “exclusivity” to ditch condoms. Yes they just don’t want to pay the prostitutes. Which is why the only way for a woman to not get played is to select men who invest in her - planning dates, hoping trips etc., early on.

It’s not that all these women are unattractive - it’s just the number of men who are there just for free sex is overwhelming.

I wish there was a review feature on profiles to comment when guys ghost a lot.

I don't think that would be good, and I am a woman. What's to stop people from lying?

I ask for std tests and condoms, don’t put out until after 5 well planned dates or so. Those who are only in for free p…y will fall off

I don’t think 5 dates is realistic. All the relationships I have been in, the chemistry developed (if it did) well before 5 dates. Nature took its course, and we had sex. It wasn’t forced, it just naturally happened. Once you pass a threshold time w/o sex, the relationship becomes this weird friend zone, with promise of romance that just doesn’t happen. You can get sucked in and waste a lot of time, and it’s hard to get out b/c really you’re just friends.

Nothing wrong with 5 dates. You dumping a woman because she won’t sleep with you after a few dates is your own hang up. I’m sure those women are much happier not being used for a ONS.

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Anonymous wrote:This is because women actually read the profile before they swipe right. 80% of you aren't making the cut because you're not taking the small amount of time it takes to write a decent profile.

Men swipe right on everyone they find hot and then make cuts later, which is just stupid and wastes everyone's time. Read the profile, people. If women are taking the time to write a profile that actually describes them, read it and know if you are compatible before you swipe right.

I don't even do online dating, but my friends do, which is how I know this.

There’s a good reason why this happens. It’s a complete waste of time for most men to read profiles because most guys are getting low single digit match rates on OLD. Imagine you spend 30-60 seconds reading 100 profiles in a row, but only 3 out of 100 match with you even if you swipe right on every single one. That means you spent over an hour reading the profiles of women who you have zero chance with.

Women have a higher match rate, instead of 2-3% it’s more like 30-50%. It makes more sense for them to read men’s profiles.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

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Anonymous wrote:This is because women actually read the profile before they swipe right. 80% of you aren't making the cut because you're not taking the small amount of time it takes to write a decent profile.

Men swipe right on everyone they find hot and then make cuts later, which is just stupid and wastes everyone's time. Read the profile, people. If women are taking the time to write a profile that actually describes them, read it and know if you are compatible before you swipe right.

I don't even do online dating, but my friends do, which is how I know this.

There’s a good reason why this happens. It’s a complete waste of time for most men to read profiles because most guys are getting low single digit match rates on OLD. Imagine you spend 30-60 seconds reading 100 profiles in a row, but only 3 out of 100 match with you even if you swipe right on every single one. That means you spent over an hour reading the profiles of women who you have zero chance with.

Women have a higher match rate, instead of 2-3% it’s more like 30-50%. It makes more sense for them to read men’s profiles.

what’s the point of getting 10 matches if you aren’t interested in any of them or compatible? You’re wasting your own time, and theirs.

It’s like, men going to a vegan buffet and complaining they don’t like anything on offer. Just go somewhere you like. Only swipe on women you’re potentially interested in. I can’t believe men are this stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

Wow, with this kind of attitude I’m sure the women are lining up around the block for you!

Why do you even date women if you hate them so much? You don’t seem interested in them as a person, just a hole to F. There are easier ways for that, they charge by the hour.

Of course different views than yours are misogynistic! Add this red flag to the basket.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

Wow, with this kind of attitude I’m sure the women are lining up around the block for you!

Why do you even date women if you hate them so much? You don’t seem interested in them as a person, just a hole to F. There are easier ways for that, they charge by the hour.

Of course different views than yours are misogynistic! Add this red flag to the basket.

I’m a dp, but go off.
“You’re bound to be alone if you don’t put out soon enough for me to determine if I can call you a slut”
You are the red flag my dear.

[Anonymous]

You really think you did something here, dontcha? What next, start talking about how white Christian men are the most persecuted population?? Give me a break. Your mommy is calling you, just be snack time. Why are you on a mommy website anyways?

Anytime someone disagrees with you (which is often) and you are at a loss for a response (also often), you post something like, "Why are you on a mommy website?"

First, this is not a "mommy website." The site owner and administrator (Jeff Steele) posted that to you on 6/21 with this reply to your post:

I could give you the history of the URL, but it would be boring and a waste of time. But, in short, men have been a part of this website from the very beginning. Generally in the minority, and frequently looked down upon, but there nonetheless.

See the thread titled "Husband checks out 20 yr olds", page 19 on 06/21/2025 @ 16:48.

The question is: Why didn't you learn this fact from that reply? The answer is that your huge narcissism prevents you from learning.

Next, you have no problem name-calling (e.g., you often call other posters incels) but cannot stand it when someone points out your issues (e.g., see your bigoted post about the "Magic Sky Man"). I believe that responding to your posts is cruel, in the same way that teasing a caged dog is evil. For this reason, it is time to stop. For your sake, please stop with the "mommy website." When the person who set it up says it is for men and women, believe them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

LOL, it’s not that clear to me. They might stick around because they have no other dates.

It’s ok to not have sex for the first 5 dates, but it’s on the long side, and some men will interpret it as lack of chemistry and move on, while she’ll be left with the undesirable ones without options.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

LOL, it’s not that clear to me. They might stick around because they have no other dates.

It’s ok to not have sex for the first 5 dates, but it’s on the long side, and some men will interpret it as lack of chemistry and move on, while she’ll be left with the undesirable ones without options.

Stop treating women like a blowup doll and maybe you’ll learn something about them! It’s easy, you just have to actually listen when they open their mouth and words come out.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

LOL, it’s not that clear to me. They might stick around because they have no other dates.

It’s ok to not have sex for the first 5 dates, but it’s on the long side, and some men will interpret it as lack of chemistry and move on, while she’ll be left with the undesirable ones without options.

In my experience as a woman having sex too early doesn’t improve chances of it becoming a LTR. Often men insist on date 2-3 because they want a mid term side piece during the weekdays, have things to hide like drugs usage, or married. It’s not enough time to screen a man

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

I always match their energy. If he’s nice texting by Thursday night asking what I would like to do, of course I’ll plan with him and take on some costs. If he’s just expecting to have sex on date 3 by dropping on my head Saturday morning I’ll say I’m unavailable. Sex is very intimate, women are receiving partners in it risking more physically and emotionally. We were all burned before.

Maybe men want sex because that’s the only thing you have to offer. If you’re fun and interesting to be around, that’s a reward in itself. If you’re sitting pretty, waiting to be entertained, they’ll at least want to get some free sex out of it before they move on. Btw, it’s ok for you to say no to that.

I think you’re getting confused. Pp specifically says she doesn’t have sex with them right away, so clearly she is fun and interesting to be around because they stick around for more than 5 dates.

Not all men treat women like a blow up doll.

LOL, it’s not that clear to me. They might stick around because they have no other dates.

It’s ok to not have sex for the first 5 dates, but it’s on the long side, and some men will interpret it as lack of chemistry and move on, while she’ll be left with the undesirable ones without options.

In my experience as a woman having sex too early doesn’t improve chances of it becoming a LTR. Often men insist on date 2-3 because they want a mid term side piece during the weekdays, have things to hide like drugs usage, or married. It’s not enough time to screen a man

No man ever didn’t get into a LTR because the woman slept with him too early. She wasn’t LTR material for him to begin with.

It’s true that some men just want sex, or one night stands, and if it’s not what you want you need to screen them. I don’t think the no sex on the first five dates is effective.