Do conservatives want to ban transgenderism for the same reasons they want to ban abortion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having read this whole thread with my stomach absolutely churning with disgust, I have to say I’m rooting on conservatives to take the senate in 2026 and keep the house so they can end this madness once and for all.

Sterilizing children? Men raping women in prisons? Men forcing their nipples into hungry babies’ mouths? Transgenderism is a danger to civilization.

We need a law banning this circus with stiff criminal penalties for BOTH the doctors and activists immediately.

Before anyone starts carrying on about abortion:

—Roe has already fallen

—Conservatives are backing off a total ban

—Conservatives are moving towards 12-15 weeks, with a rape, incest, and life of the mom exemptions.

I’ll take that compromise on abortion to ensure no confused, autistic girl ever again gets her breasts cut off by a greedy doctor, no female inmate ever again gets raped by a man locked in a cell with her, and no baby ever gets fed whatever toxic, nuclear sludge is oozing from a chemically-altered man’s “breasts.” 🤢

Thank you for this. I completely agree. I have gotten very, very passionate about this issue recently and intend to start speaking out about it publically.

Recently, I was talking to a fundraiser from the Cleveland Clinic, where a family member recently had a life-saving procedure. I told her point blank how horrified I am that a facility with the international reputation and importance of the CC now offers "sex mutilation services" to minors on a "case by case" basis, according to their website. (This is code for: yes, we do operate on minors.) She did not deny it. As grateful as I am to doctors there for assisting my family, they will not see a dime from us until this stops.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To show you how far things have been pushed some transwomen are attempting to breastfeed their baby despite no studies showing the safety of doing so. Chemical induced secretions produced by a male are in no way comparable to actual breastmilk a mother produces after giving birth. Once again science and safeguarding are ignored and people who point out their concerns on this issue are silenced.

The most completely and utterly insane male supremacist part about this is that breastfeeding mothers struggling with reduced supply have been denied domperidone for DECADES. I know women who had to smuggle it in from Mexico, because it is so tightly regulated and impossible to get in this country and outright illegal in Europe. The rational to denying to women is the safety of the child because random studies show that it could be harmful in a minority of cases.

Yet, the SAME doctors are advocating prescribing this drug to whole entire MEN so they can do what nature never intended the male body to do. The safety of babies is not even mentioned because it’s completely unimportant next to the whims of deeply disturbed men.

And transactivists will have us believe this whole movement is NOT a male supremacist movement to impose the fetishes of sick men at all costs.

Exactly. Women who struggle with breastfeeding can’t get this drug, but transwomen who want it for validation get it, with little concern for the health of the baby. It’s disgusting.

I literally just sent this page to two different moms of twins I know who were denied Domperidone and had to stop breastfeeding as a result. See, it’s one thing for nasty men to go all out in service of their fetishes. That is how porn-addicted degenerate men behave. But the doctors who go along with this disgusting regime that validates male sexual urges, while actively undermining ACTUAL mothers, deserve to go to prison.

How is a man pulling out all the stops to have a baby suck his nipples NOT a pedophile?

Breastfeeding is pedophilia? Now I know you folks are disturbed. I see a good mom who knows breast is best.

Here comes a truth bomb for you all the way from 1987:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7462406/

TL/DR: Composition of male breast milk similar to female.

Sorry if this blows up your world…

Does the study say that

1) male breast milk components are all found in female breast milk

OR

2) all components found in female breast milk are also found in male breast milk

All I could see was the summary

Mammary glands produce human milk. Men and non birth moms usually (but not always) need the hormones to get things going, birth moms usually get it naturally. Once the glands are going there is nothing special about male milk vs female milk - the composition is similar.

There are multiple recorded instances of males lactating, including POWs who came by it naturally after recovering from starving conditions and others with pituitary issues.

So maybe the trans haters can drop the insane rhetoric that trans women lactating is pedophilia. Any breastfeeding mom knows that kind of commitment is a selfless act.

Except women can’t get these drugs because of risks to the baby. It is extremely rare for women to be prescribed this drug when they have a hard time with milk production, because of concerns about what the baby is consuming. Women are told they need to use formula and that given the choices, formula is safer.

And yet I’m supposed to believe all these concerns about the baby’s health go away because a transwoman feels her narcissistic validation is more important than the health of the baby? GTFO with that misogynist and pedophiliac nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Having read this whole thread with my stomach absolutely churning with disgust, I have to say I’m rooting on conservatives to take the senate in 2026 and keep the house so they can end this madness once and for all.

Sterilizing children? Men raping women in prisons? Men forcing their nipples into hungry babies’ mouths? Transgenderism is a danger to civilization.

We need a law banning this circus with stiff criminal penalties for BOTH the doctors and activists immediately.

Before anyone starts carrying on about abortion:

—Roe has already fallen

—Conservatives are backing off a total ban

—Conservatives are moving towards 12-15 weeks, with a rape, incest, and life of the mom exemptions.

I’ll take that compromise on abortion to ensure no confused, autistic girl ever again gets her breasts cut off by a greedy doctor, no female inmate ever again gets raped by a man locked in a cell with her, and no baby ever gets fed whatever toxic, nuclear sludge is oozing from a chemically-altered man’s “breasts.” 🤢

Thank you for this. I completely agree. I have gotten very, very passionate about this issue recently and intend to start speaking out about it publically.

Recently, I was talking to a fundraiser from the Cleveland Clinic, where a family member recently had a life-saving procedure. I told her point blank how horrified I am that a facility with the international reputation and importance of the CC now offers "sex mutilation services" to minors on a "case by case" basis, according to their website. (This is code for: yes, we do operate on minors.) She did not deny it. As grateful as I am to doctors there for assisting my family, they will not see a dime from us until this stops.

Yes, they do operate on minors. They do not often, if ever, do bottom surgery on minors, but yes they do breast reductions on minors, just like they do other plastic surgeries on minors. I’ve posted before, my son had breast reduction the summer before his senior year. We wanted to have input, which would’ve been more difficult as parents if we waited until he turned 18. We also wanted to have him heal and be used to his new body before he started college. If you’re opposed to surgical transitioning of any sort, you’re probably never going to come around to understanding why people allow top surgery for minors ever. If you’re not transphobic, and your first instinct without talking to someone who was a trans kid or knowing someone who experienced the transition process is to wait until they’re adults, I would urge you to listen to parents who allowed their teens to do medical transitions. In our case, it made much more sense to take the steps in late high school, in a supportive environment, with doctors we’ve been dealing with for years, and where we can monitor our child. Otherwise he would’ve gone to college with breasts, had to deal with binding, being afraid of the negative attention he’d get if he wanted to dress comfortably without binding, and have increased anxiety all the time, and that’s not even touching the issues of him having surgery while away from home as a young adult who’s never had surgery or dealt with insurance on their own. It’s not a race to lob off body parts or pump our kids full of hormones, despite what some people try to make it seem like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Having read this whole thread with my stomach absolutely churning with disgust, I have to say I’m rooting on conservatives to take the senate in 2026 and keep the house so they can end this madness once and for all.

Sterilizing children? Men raping women in prisons? Men forcing their nipples into hungry babies’ mouths? Transgenderism is a danger to civilization.

We need a law banning this circus with stiff criminal penalties for BOTH the doctors and activists immediately.

Before anyone starts carrying on about abortion:

—Roe has already fallen

—Conservatives are backing off a total ban

—Conservatives are moving towards 12-15 weeks, with a rape, incest, and life of the mom exemptions.

I’ll take that compromise on abortion to ensure no confused, autistic girl ever again gets her breasts cut off by a greedy doctor, no female inmate ever again gets raped by a man locked in a cell with her, and no baby ever gets fed whatever toxic, nuclear sludge is oozing from a chemically-altered man’s “breasts.” 🤢

Thank you for this. I completely agree. I have gotten very, very passionate about this issue recently and intend to start speaking out about it publically.

Recently, I was talking to a fundraiser from the Cleveland Clinic, where a family member recently had a life-saving procedure. I told her point blank how horrified I am that a facility with the international reputation and importance of the CC now offers "sex mutilation services" to minors on a "case by case" basis, according to their website. (This is code for: yes, we do operate on minors.) She did not deny it. As grateful as I am to doctors there for assisting my family, they will not see a dime from us until this stops.

Yes, they do operate on minors. They do not often, if ever, do bottom surgery on minors, but yes they do breast reductions on minors, just like they do other plastic surgeries on minors. I’ve posted before, my son had breast reduction the summer before his senior year. We wanted to have input, which would’ve been more difficult as parents if we waited until he turned 18. We also wanted to have him heal and be used to his new body before he started college. If you’re opposed to surgical transitioning of any sort, you’re probably never going to come around to understanding why people allow top surgery for minors ever. If you’re not transphobic, and your first instinct without talking to someone who was a trans kid or knowing someone who experienced the transition process is to wait until they’re adults, I would urge you to listen to parents who allowed their teens to do medical transitions. In our case, it made much more sense to take the steps in late high school, in a supportive environment, with doctors we’ve been dealing with for years, and where we can monitor our child. Otherwise he would’ve gone to college with breasts, had to deal with binding, being afraid of the negative attention he’d get if he wanted to dress comfortably without binding, and have increased anxiety all the time, and that’s not even touching the issues of him having surgery while away from home as a young adult who’s never had surgery or dealt with insurance on their own. It’s not a race to lob off body parts or pump our kids full of hormones, despite what some people try to make it seem like.

Except... he is a she.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having read this whole thread with my stomach absolutely churning with disgust, I have to say I’m rooting on conservatives to take the senate in 2026 and keep the house so they can end this madness once and for all.

Sterilizing children? Men raping women in prisons? Men forcing their nipples into hungry babies’ mouths? Transgenderism is a danger to civilization.

We need a law banning this circus with stiff criminal penalties for BOTH the doctors and activists immediately.

Before anyone starts carrying on about abortion:

—Roe has already fallen

—Conservatives are backing off a total ban

—Conservatives are moving towards 12-15 weeks, with a rape, incest, and life of the mom exemptions.

I’ll take that compromise on abortion to ensure no confused, autistic girl ever again gets her breasts cut off by a greedy doctor, no female inmate ever again gets raped by a man locked in a cell with her, and no baby ever gets fed whatever toxic, nuclear sludge is oozing from a chemically-altered man’s “breasts.” 🤢

Thank you for this. I completely agree. I have gotten very, very passionate about this issue recently and intend to start speaking out about it publically.

Recently, I was talking to a fundraiser from the Cleveland Clinic, where a family member recently had a life-saving procedure. I told her point blank how horrified I am that a facility with the international reputation and importance of the CC now offers "sex mutilation services" to minors on a "case by case" basis, according to their website. (This is code for: yes, we do operate on minors.) She did not deny it. As grateful as I am to doctors there for assisting my family, they will not see a dime from us until this stops.

Yes, they do operate on minors. They do not often, if ever, do bottom surgery on minors, but yes they do breast reductions on minors, just like they do other plastic surgeries on minors. I’ve posted before, my son had breast reduction the summer before his senior year. We wanted to have input, which would’ve been more difficult as parents if we waited until he turned 18. We also wanted to have him heal and be used to his new body before he started college. If you’re opposed to surgical transitioning of any sort, you’re probably never going to come around to understanding why people allow top surgery for minors ever. If you’re not transphobic, and your first instinct without talking to someone who was a trans kid or knowing someone who experienced the transition process is to wait until they’re adults, I would urge you to listen to parents who allowed their teens to do medical transitions. In our case, it made much more sense to take the steps in late high school, in a supportive environment, with doctors we’ve been dealing with for years, and where we can monitor our child. Otherwise he would’ve gone to college with breasts, had to deal with binding, being afraid of the negative attention he’d get if he wanted to dress comfortably without binding, and have increased anxiety all the time, and that’s not even touching the issues of him having surgery while away from home as a young adult who’s never had surgery or dealt with insurance on their own. It’s not a race to lob off body parts or pump our kids full of hormones, despite what some people try to make it seem like.

Except... he is a she.

And you're a ^&(**&^S

[Anonymous]

Actually one of my female friends had to have breast reduction surgery at age 17 because she was having so many back problems because of disproportionately large breasts. Allowed her to go to college and live a normal life.

It's not just trans minors folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually one of my female friends had to have breast reduction surgery at age 17 because she was having so many back problems because of disproportionately large breasts. Allowed her to go to college and live a normal life.

It's not just trans minors folks.

That's a true medical issue. Removing the breasts of a healthy 17 YO female is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually one of my female friends had to have breast reduction surgery at age 17 because she was having so many back problems because of disproportionately large breasts. Allowed her to go to college and live a normal life.

It's not just trans minors folks.

Yep. Ariel Winter from Modern Family had that procedure as a teen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Having read this whole thread with my stomach absolutely churning with disgust, I have to say I’m rooting on conservatives to take the senate in 2026 and keep the house so they can end this madness once and for all.

Sterilizing children? Men raping women in prisons? Men forcing their nipples into hungry babies’ mouths? Transgenderism is a danger to civilization.

We need a law banning this circus with stiff criminal penalties for BOTH the doctors and activists immediately.

Before anyone starts carrying on about abortion:

—Roe has already fallen

—Conservatives are backing off a total ban

—Conservatives are moving towards 12-15 weeks, with a rape, incest, and life of the mom exemptions.

I’ll take that compromise on abortion to ensure no confused, autistic girl ever again gets her breasts cut off by a greedy doctor, no female inmate ever again gets raped by a man locked in a cell with her, and no baby ever gets fed whatever toxic, nuclear sludge is oozing from a chemically-altered man’s “breasts.” 🤢

Thank you for this. I completely agree. I have gotten very, very passionate about this issue recently and intend to start speaking out about it publically.

Recently, I was talking to a fundraiser from the Cleveland Clinic, where a family member recently had a life-saving procedure. I told her point blank how horrified I am that a facility with the international reputation and importance of the CC now offers "sex mutilation services" to minors on a "case by case" basis, according to their website. (This is code for: yes, we do operate on minors.) She did not deny it. As grateful as I am to doctors there for assisting my family, they will not see a dime from us until this stops.

Yes, they do operate on minors. They do not often, if ever, do bottom surgery on minors, but yes they do breast reductions on minors, just like they do other plastic surgeries on minors. I’ve posted before, my son had breast reduction the summer before his senior year. We wanted to have input, which would’ve been more difficult as parents if we waited until he turned 18. We also wanted to have him heal and be used to his new body before he started college. If you’re opposed to surgical transitioning of any sort, you’re probably never going to come around to understanding why people allow top surgery for minors ever. If you’re not transphobic, and your first instinct without talking to someone who was a trans kid or knowing someone who experienced the transition process is to wait until they’re adults, I would urge you to listen to parents who allowed their teens to do medical transitions. In our case, it made much more sense to take the steps in late high school, in a supportive environment, with doctors we’ve been dealing with for years, and where we can monitor our child. Otherwise he would’ve gone to college with breasts, had to deal with binding, being afraid of the negative attention he’d get if he wanted to dress comfortably without binding, and have increased anxiety all the time, and that’s not even touching the issues of him having surgery while away from home as a young adult who’s never had surgery or dealt with insurance on their own. It’s not a race to lob off body parts or pump our kids full of hormones, despite what some people try to make it seem like.

Except... he is a she.

And you're a ^&(**&^S

I'm actually not. I truly a lovely person. I'm just done playing along with this narrative and cannot imagine what kind of parent would allow their minor child to have this done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of my female friends had to have breast reduction surgery at age 17 because she was having so many back problems because of disproportionately large breasts. Allowed her to go to college and live a normal life.

It's not just trans minors folks.

That's a true medical issue. Removing the breasts of a healthy 17 YO female is not.

You’d be objecting to it on an 18 YO, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think so. I’ve come to realize that it’s all about “increasing the birthrate,” and that I’d people are changing genders, they may not be procreating anymore.

I think it is for the same reasons but not boosting birth rates.

It is about culture wars to help Republicans cling to power through manufactured grievances and fear mongering about changing demographics and power shifts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of my female friends had to have breast reduction surgery at age 17 because she was having so many back problems because of disproportionately large breasts. Allowed her to go to college and live a normal life.

It's not just trans minors folks.

That's a true medical issue. Removing the breasts of a healthy 17 YO female is not.

And now neither of them will be able to get it done in many places. Hope you are happy.

There used to be a time when republicans were for individual liberty

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually one of my female friends had to have breast reduction surgery at age 17 because she was having so many back problems because of disproportionately large breasts. Allowed her to go to college and live a normal life.

It's not just trans minors folks.

That's a true medical issue. Removing the breasts of a healthy 17 YO female is not.

You’d be objecting to it on an 18 YO, too.

Of course I would. I object to it on a 35 YO. But I have absolutely nothing to say about that, and would keep my mouth shut, since persons over the age of 18 have reached the age of consent. They are responsible for their own actions.

17 YOs have not. 13 YOs have not. Why is that hard for you to understand?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually one of my female friends had to have breast reduction surgery at age 17 because she was having so many back problems because of disproportionately large breasts. Allowed her to go to college and live a normal life.

It's not just trans minors folks.

That's a true medical issue. Removing the breasts of a healthy 17 YO female is not.

And now neither of them will be able to get it done in many places. Hope you are happy.

There used to be a time when republicans were for individual liberty

I will not be truly happy until the truth of this horrible industry is exposed and the money grifters at the top go to prison.

[Anonymous]

Have any of you who seem to seriously hate trans people and want to see them eradicated or banned entirely ever spent any time with transgender people? I'm asking in good faith. Because I think we all know *any* of us can read stuff on the internet and we should be taking that with a grain of salt. At least I hope we know that.

"Studies" only get you so far. They don't get you into the families' decision-making process, the work they do with the counselors and doctors and the whole team of people. It's a massively long process.

But either way, I know (closely) three trans people. They are happy, well-adjusted adults who just want to live their lives free of fear and hate. I don't know why people feel the need to spread such hate. Saying "except she's a he" is just hate.

I fully, 100% appreciate the concerns around how far children should be able to transition, or what the level of care is, but when you ban all "gender affirming care" you ban counseling, discussions with medical professionals, etc. They're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. What do you people expect children with gender dysphoria to do exactly? Wallow in their misery and grief? What is the plan for them? What do you propose that's actually within your level of acceptance? I'm not a trans activist by any stretch, and I see the issues that are occurring but they're occurring because we're shutting down all conversation and turning this into a zero sum game. What is the pathway forward for a child who has gender dysphoria?