Most young men are single - most young women are not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I know tons and tons of single women in the DC area between say 25 and 40. Almost all of them are educated and have their shit together. A number of them are VERY beautiful and fit with active lifestyles. The problem is that most of them are VERY VERY picky. This sort of fault-finding quality goes beyond the usual stuff we see on this site. The thing is, a LOT of the professional women in DC earn much more than the guys found in the local pool if single men. Income disparity is a huge problem. Also, a sort of cockiness has evolved within the large community of professional women with regard to statue, education, and income level. A lot of these single ladies are used to being in charge as well, especially in the workplace, yet most of them make terrible bosses. Then again, not all of them are blessed on the looks scale.

So here is another angle. You have a single woman with a grad degree from a top tier school. She has all the reps and certs, plus the income to go along with it. Probably owns her own place and has the unofficial title of "cool aunt" to her nieces. She probably takes vacations to luxury locales and drives a nice car. That said, she's probably a 7. In her mind, she's a 10 because of all the extra stuff (house, job, income whatever).

To single guys in the DC area, she's still a 7 with all that other baggage. And that 7 will become a 6 soon...and then a 5.

Do you really want to be the "cool aunt" at 45?

As a 40 year old man dating in DC, I completely agree with everything you said. Women in DC get pickier the older they get while their looks diminish. It's total madness. And they wonder why men prefer to date younger?

[Anonymous]

I have a friend that is mid thirties, great personality, great job, cute, athletic. I don’t think she is particularly picky when it comes to looks or income but definitely wants a guy who is nice, treats her well, reasonably smart, and would share housework. (Her dad and brother check all those boxes.). She is the cool aunt and I think she’s fine with being single rather than compromising on what she wants. And she won’t do dating apps. I’d love it if she met someone great but I can’t really blame her for picking cool aunt status over a guy that’s going to treat her badly or expect her to be his mom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just some random thoughts:

-The on-campus gender split is just going to grow. I fully expect that by 2035, college campuses will be split at 75% female and 25% male. Men will continue to "drop out and off" from society. That is not stabilizing at all and it is only going to get worse. An effective "fix" simply doesn't exist at this time. However, many of the degrees women are pursing in droves are going to be soon seen as obsolete.

-I see that a possible solution is for gender separation in schools, especially in the younger years, as boys mature more slowly than girls. Why not try this route?

-Younger guys will not approach younger women (college age) these days in person. It is extremely rare due to what others on this thread have called the "creeper" vibe. Young guys have told me that they don't want to be dragged all over social media because they've been labelled as a creeper.

-Automation is going to have a hell of an effect on a lot of white collar jobs ahead. Laugh all you want, but a lot of those jobs are where many super-smart females are headed. Automation is gaining a hell of a lot of steam on the manufacturing environment where men traditionally worked(and still do). The white collar fields where females are now excelling (project management, business, law, medical) are all prime targets for in-depth automation. Then what?

-Younger men seemed to be much better equipped to successfully navigate in a gig-style economy. Younger men also seem to be much better at risk taking and making the hard decisions in a business environment. Women, especially in the modern white collar workplace, are far more risk-averse. This is definitely starting to have a negative effect on economic growth and the introduction of new ideas and trends.

-That article from The Hill mentioned:

Some of them are dating each other. One-fifth of Generation Z identifies as queer, and research suggests bisexual women make up a large share of the young-adult queer community.

This isn't isolated to Gen Z, and this is especially true in the DC area. I have known MANY Millennial females who normally identify as straight but are hopelessly single and can't meet "good dudes" for a myriad of reasons. So, they experiment and pursue intimacy with other females. I was shocked at just how many females I know between the ages of 28 and 45 that are in this group in the DC area.

The problem is that women equate college with necessity. Given the massive costs of college, huge debt loads, and the fact that people often never even need a college degree to work in the fields they're in, men have already reached the conclusion that college is a terrible ROI. It's only a matter of time until women reach the same conclusion.

Why does anyone need to spend $70k per year to learn how to program a computer when 60% of the coursework that you're paying exorbitant sums of money for loads you up with useless liberal arts classes you'll never need again in your life? You don't need a college degree and massive amounts of debt to become an electrician, carpenter, or mechanic. Specialized tradesmen can easily earn $100-200k eventually, will never be burdened with debt, and will never have their jobs shipped overseas. Their jobs are much more critical to the function of the entire country than probably 95% of over paid white collar jobs too. You also don't need a college degree to become an entrepreneur or to start your own business. Heck, my uncle is a Vietnam vet, never went to college, and started a very successful landscaping business in a very good location. He owns many acres of land that is worth a lot of money now and has millions of dollars from investing.

Too many people think you need college to be successful. Education also does not equal intelligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a friend that is mid thirties, great personality, great job, cute, athletic. I don’t think she is particularly picky when it comes to looks or income but definitely wants a guy who is nice, treats her well, reasonably smart, and would share housework. (Her dad and brother check all those boxes.). She is the cool aunt and I think she’s fine with being single rather than compromising on what she wants. And she won’t do dating apps. I’d love it if she met someone great but I can’t really blame her for picking cool aunt status over a guy that’s going to treat her badly or expect her to be his mom.

They'd rather stay home with Whiskers and watch Netflix on a Friday night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the cold hard truth ladies. Unless you were born rich you got to pick a Horse and ride it.

Meaning for example my wife had a friend very pretty but literally worked electric company, Dad a retired cop, grew up shoebox cape on the tracks.

She tried at 24 to land a millionaire. She was peak beauty. Blonde, skinny and full. Guess what the rich older guys not looking for broke blondes for third tier colleges.

So she found a 26 year old good looking guy also broke, but he was starting out as a broker on Wall Street. She bet on his successes. She got on that horse and rode it all to a two million dollar home and a new BMW. She has not worked in 25 years.

Meanwhile that same guy once loaded was not looking for her.

My wife did the same married me in 1998 I was making 55k and she was making 55k. But I had MBA and talk and good looking. She saw potential. By 2007 I was making 400k a year. She also was good looking grew up tiny cape blue collar parents.

Pick your horse and ride then ladies. Lot easier to marry a rich guy before they are rich

Why do I need a horse at all if I can make money on my own? You seem to be implying that in every case the woman wants to put her own dreams on hold in order to live vicariously through someone else. Those days are over. A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, as Betty Friedan once said.

And yet, many women spend an inordinate amount of time trying to find a partner or lamenting the fact that they’re not able to find a partner.

[Anonymous]

I have a colleague from Israel who has proposed that America mandate national.service like Israel does military service solely because it allows young men to calm down and grow up.prior to going to college. Would young men who are twenty and have two years of national service be better equipped to navigate college and not drop.out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the cold hard truth ladies. Unless you were born rich you got to pick a Horse and ride it.

Meaning for example my wife had a friend very pretty but literally worked electric company, Dad a retired cop, grew up shoebox cape on the tracks.

She tried at 24 to land a millionaire. She was peak beauty. Blonde, skinny and full. Guess what the rich older guys not looking for broke blondes for third tier colleges.

So she found a 26 year old good looking guy also broke, but he was starting out as a broker on Wall Street. She bet on his successes. She got on that horse and rode it all to a two million dollar home and a new BMW. She has not worked in 25 years.

Meanwhile that same guy once loaded was not looking for her.

My wife did the same married me in 1998 I was making 55k and she was making 55k. But I had MBA and talk and good looking. She saw potential. By 2007 I was making 400k a year. She also was good looking grew up tiny cape blue collar parents.

Pick your horse and ride then ladies. Lot easier to marry a rich guy before they are rich

Why do I need a horse at all if I can make money on my own? You seem to be implying that in every case the woman wants to put her own dreams on hold in order to live vicariously through someone else. Those days are over. A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, as Betty Friedan once said.

And yet, many women spend an inordinate amount of time trying to find a partner or lamenting the fact that they’re not able to find a partner.

And yet, despite your anecdata, 64 percent of young women are in relationships, compared to 34 percent of men of similar age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have tons of single friends in their mod 30s to mod 40s. At least 30%. Huge shortage of men that are normal (good isn't even the standard) and want to be in a relationship.

A better question to ask is who is single, but wants to be in a serious, exclusive relationship.

I know tons and tons of single women in the DC area between say 25 and 40. Almost all of them are educated and have their shit together. A number of them are VERY beautiful and fit with active lifestyles. The problem is that most of them are VERY VERY picky. This sort of fault-finding quality goes beyond the usual stuff we see on this site. The thing is, a LOT of the professional women in DC earn much more than the guys found in the local pool if single men. Income disparity is a huge problem. Also, a sort of cockiness has evolved within the large community of professional women with regard to statue, education, and income level. A lot of these single ladies are used to being in charge as well, especially in the workplace, yet most of them make terrible bosses. Then again, not all of them are blessed on the looks scale.

So here is another angle. You have a single woman with a grad degree from a top tier school. She has all the reps and certs, plus the income to go along with it. Probably owns her own place and has the unofficial title of "cool aunt" to her nieces. She probably takes vacations to luxury locales and drives a nice car. That said, she's probably a 7. In her mind, she's a 10 because of all the extra stuff (house, job, income whatever).

To single guys in the DC area, she's still a 7 with all that other baggage. And that 7 will become a 6 soon...and then a 5.

Do you really want to be the "cool aunt" at 45?

If it means I don't have to date or marry someone like you, then yes, cool aunt all the way.

[Anonymous]

Young women are dating older men. Older women are leaving the dating market entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have tons of single friends in their mod 30s to mod 40s. At least 30%. Huge shortage of men that are normal (good isn't even the standard) and want to be in a relationship.

A better question to ask is who is single, but wants to be in a serious, exclusive relationship.

I know tons and tons of single women in the DC area between say 25 and 40. Almost all of them are educated and have their shit together. A number of them are VERY beautiful and fit with active lifestyles. The problem is that most of them are VERY VERY picky. This sort of fault-finding quality goes beyond the usual stuff we see on this site. The thing is, a LOT of the professional women in DC earn much more than the guys found in the local pool if single men. Income disparity is a huge problem. Also, a sort of cockiness has evolved within the large community of professional women with regard to statue, education, and income level. A lot of these single ladies are used to being in charge as well, especially in the workplace, yet most of them make terrible bosses. Then again, not all of them are blessed on the looks scale.

So here is another angle. You have a single woman with a grad degree from a top tier school. She has all the reps and certs, plus the income to go along with it. Probably owns her own place and has the unofficial title of "cool aunt" to her nieces. She probably takes vacations to luxury locales and drives a nice car. That said, she's probably a 7. In her mind, she's a 10 because of all the extra stuff (house, job, income whatever).

To single guys in the DC area, she's still a 7 with all that other baggage. And that 7 will become a 6 soon...and then a 5.

Do you really want to be the "cool aunt" at 45?

If it means I don't have to date or marry someone like you, then yes, cool aunt all the way.

I’m single at 48 and life is good.
People have spent the last twenty years trying to scare me into settling. My friends who did settle are all divorced now.

[Anonymous]

Why do these discussions always operate on the premise that women have all the options and some schmuck is lucky one picked him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I know tons and tons of single women in the DC area between say 25 and 40. Almost all of them are educated and have their shit together. A number of them are VERY beautiful and fit with active lifestyles. The problem is that most of them are VERY VERY picky. This sort of fault-finding quality goes beyond the usual stuff we see on this site. The thing is, a LOT of the professional women in DC earn much more than the guys found in the local pool if single men. Income disparity is a huge problem. Also, a sort of cockiness has evolved within the large community of professional women with regard to statue, education, and income level. A lot of these single ladies are used to being in charge as well, especially in the workplace, yet most of them make terrible bosses. Then again, not all of them are blessed on the looks scale.

So here is another angle. You have a single woman with a grad degree from a top tier school. She has all the reps and certs, plus the income to go along with it. Probably owns her own place and has the unofficial title of "cool aunt" to her nieces. She probably takes vacations to luxury locales and drives a nice car. That said, she's probably a 7. In her mind, she's a 10 because of all the extra stuff (house, job, income whatever).

To single guys in the DC area, she's still a 7 with all that other baggage. And that 7 will become a 6 soon...and then a 5.

Do you really want to be the "cool aunt" at 45?

As a 40 year old man dating in DC, I completely agree with everything you said. Women in DC get pickier the older they get while their looks diminish. It's total madness. And they wonder why men prefer to date younger?

So they should what? Settle for the mediocre looking schlub incels?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I know tons and tons of single women in the DC area between say 25 and 40. Almost all of them are educated and have their shit together. A number of them are VERY beautiful and fit with active lifestyles. The problem is that most of them are VERY VERY picky. This sort of fault-finding quality goes beyond the usual stuff we see on this site. The thing is, a LOT of the professional women in DC earn much more than the guys found in the local pool if single men. Income disparity is a huge problem. Also, a sort of cockiness has evolved within the large community of professional women with regard to statue, education, and income level. A lot of these single ladies are used to being in charge as well, especially in the workplace, yet most of them make terrible bosses. Then again, not all of them are blessed on the looks scale.

So here is another angle. You have a single woman with a grad degree from a top tier school. She has all the reps and certs, plus the income to go along with it. Probably owns her own place and has the unofficial title of "cool aunt" to her nieces. She probably takes vacations to luxury locales and drives a nice car. That said, she's probably a 7. In her mind, she's a 10 because of all the extra stuff (house, job, income whatever).

To single guys in the DC area, she's still a 7 with all that other baggage. And that 7 will become a 6 soon...and then a 5.

Do you really want to be the "cool aunt" at 45?

As a 40 year old man dating in DC, I completely agree with everything you said. Women in DC get pickier the older they get while their looks diminish. It's total madness. And they wonder why men prefer to date younger?

So they should what? Settle for the mediocre looking schlub incels?

You sound like an angry 40+ year old cat lady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I know tons and tons of single women in the DC area between say 25 and 40. Almost all of them are educated and have their shit together. A number of them are VERY beautiful and fit with active lifestyles. The problem is that most of them are VERY VERY picky. This sort of fault-finding quality goes beyond the usual stuff we see on this site. The thing is, a LOT of the professional women in DC earn much more than the guys found in the local pool if single men. Income disparity is a huge problem. Also, a sort of cockiness has evolved within the large community of professional women with regard to statue, education, and income level. A lot of these single ladies are used to being in charge as well, especially in the workplace, yet most of them make terrible bosses. Then again, not all of them are blessed on the looks scale.

So here is another angle. You have a single woman with a grad degree from a top tier school. She has all the reps and certs, plus the income to go along with it. Probably owns her own place and has the unofficial title of "cool aunt" to her nieces. She probably takes vacations to luxury locales and drives a nice car. That said, she's probably a 7. In her mind, she's a 10 because of all the extra stuff (house, job, income whatever).

To single guys in the DC area, she's still a 7 with all that other baggage. And that 7 will become a 6 soon...and then a 5.

Do you really want to be the "cool aunt" at 45?

As a 40 year old man dating in DC, I completely agree with everything you said. Women in DC get pickier the older they get while their looks diminish. It's total madness. And they wonder why men prefer to date younger?

Why is it madness? By the time we’re in our 40s we’ve got plenty of friends and are often pretty financially secure. I was widowed in my 40s and found dating to be such a chore. So many older dudes were basically looking for a future nurse and younger guys were mostly excited to find that I was a lawyer with my own home who didn’t want kids. I’m much happier socializing with friends and and having a few FWBs when needed.

[Anonymous]

I find these debates so sad and tiresome. I didn't find someone I wanted to settle down with. Sure, it was disappointing. At this point, I'm just over it. And one of the nice things about getting older is that people stop bugging you about why you're single.