Most young men are single - most young women are not

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I know tons and tons of single women in the DC area between say 25 and 40. Almost all of them are educated and have their shit together. A number of them are VERY beautiful and fit with active lifestyles. The problem is that most of them are VERY VERY picky. This sort of fault-finding quality goes beyond the usual stuff we see on this site. The thing is, a LOT of the professional women in DC earn much more than the guys found in the local pool if single men. Income disparity is a huge problem. Also, a sort of cockiness has evolved within the large community of professional women with regard to statue, education, and income level. A lot of these single ladies are used to being in charge as well, especially in the workplace, yet most of them make terrible bosses. Then again, not all of them are blessed on the looks scale.

So here is another angle. You have a single woman with a grad degree from a top tier school. She has all the reps and certs, plus the income to go along with it. Probably owns her own place and has the unofficial title of "cool aunt" to her nieces. She probably takes vacations to luxury locales and drives a nice car. That said, she's probably a 7. In her mind, she's a 10 because of all the extra stuff (house, job, income whatever).

To single guys in the DC area, she's still a 7 with all that other baggage. And that 7 will become a 6 soon...and then a 5.

Do you really want to be the "cool aunt" at 45?

As a 40 year old man dating in DC, I completely agree with everything you said. Women in DC get pickier the older they get while their looks diminish. It's total madness. And they wonder why men prefer to date younger?

So they should what? Settle for the mediocre looking schlub incels?

You sound like an angry 40+ year old cat lady.

I’m not the previous poster, but I agree with her that you are an incel. I’m over 40, but I married a man in my 20s who has made 10s of millions. While you are a single, lonely, misogynist who is clearly some low level worker begrudging women in management by saying MOST women are “terrible bosses?” I pity the women that have to deal with you insecure (and poor) losers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do these discussions always operate on the premise that women have all the options and some schmuck is lucky one picked him?

Because think of the people you know who are single at 40 - there are plenty of higher caliber women single at 40 than men. The men still single at 40 all seem to be losers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Young women are dating older men. Older women are leaving the dating market entirely.

This is an interesting way to say that older women are less attractive than younger women and therefore cannot compete for the attention of the older men they would normally choose to be dating.

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Anonymous wrote:Young women are dating older men. Older women are leaving the dating market entirely.

This is an interesting way to say that older women are less attractive than younger women and therefore cannot compete for the attention of the older men they would normally choose to be dating.

I get the same amount of attention in my late forties as I did in my twenties. When I "leave the market", I'm still seeing a bunch of younger men.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the cold hard truth ladies. Unless you were born rich you got to pick a Horse and ride it.

Meaning for example my wife had a friend very pretty but literally worked electric company, Dad a retired cop, grew up shoebox cape on the tracks.

She tried at 24 to land a millionaire. She was peak beauty. Blonde, skinny and full. Guess what the rich older guys not looking for broke blondes for third tier colleges.

So she found a 26 year old good looking guy also broke, but he was starting out as a broker on Wall Street. She bet on his successes. She got on that horse and rode it all to a two million dollar home and a new BMW. She has not worked in 25 years.

Meanwhile that same guy once loaded was not looking for her.

My wife did the same married me in 1998 I was making 55k and she was making 55k. But I had MBA and talk and good looking. She saw potential. By 2007 I was making 400k a year. She also was good looking grew up tiny cape blue collar parents.

Pick your horse and ride then ladies. Lot easier to marry a rich guy before they are rich

Why do I need a horse at all if I can make money on my own? You seem to be implying that in every case the woman wants to put her own dreams on hold in order to live vicariously through someone else. Those days are over. A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, as Betty Friedan once said.

And yet, many women spend an inordinate amount of time trying to find a partner or lamenting the fact that they’re not able to find a partner.

And yet, despite your anecdata, 64 percent of young women are in relationships, compared to 34 percent of men of similar age.

No

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Young women are dating older men. Older women are leaving the dating market entirely.

This is an interesting way to say that older women are less attractive than younger women and therefore cannot compete for the attention of the older men they would normally choose to be dating.

I mean, it's just the other end of the line. In the beginning, the teen boys can't compete with the more mature boys/young men when the whole sex and dating thing starts. And it kind of stays this way throughout with women tending to date somewhat above their age range. At the upper end, I assume there is a combination of men dying off younger and older women simply not being interested; but at the upper age range, there's a lot more single women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Young women are dating older men. Older women are leaving the dating market entirely.

This is an interesting way to say that older women are less attractive than younger women and therefore cannot compete for the attention of the older men they would normally choose to be dating.

I get the same amount of attention in my late forties as I did in my twenties. When I "leave the market", I'm still seeing a bunch of younger men.

I think late 50s/early 60s is when it's not going to matter how hard a woman tries, she's not going to receive much in the way of sexual attention. But I also think, for the most part, if a woman isn't with the guy she wants to be with for the rest of her life (and maybe even if she is), she's largely uninterested in that kind of attention anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Most young men are single

Good for them. Unlike women, men don't base their entire self worth on whether the opposite sex deems them worthy of "a relationship."

Women have been told for..I dunno, millennia?...that our worth relies on whether or not the opposite sex deems us worthy of a relationship, so it's really no surprise that most women feel that way. However, this is changing, and the people who seem to have a hard time imagining the change are men (since they have been told the same thing; that their opinion of a woman is a reflection of a woman's worth). Some men these day really cannot fathom the idea that a women might not give a flying f*** what men think.

Honestly it's so hilarious to watch this shift from the sidelines.

[Anonymous]

Many married men and men who have gfs or a FWB think they are single. Which only means that they are looking for a new sex partner.

Most women who are dating losers or guys who won’t propose think that they are in a relationship and not single.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And yet, despite your anecdata, 64 percent of young women are in relationships, compared to 34 percent of men of similar age.

Again, because women base their entire self worth on whether or not a member of the opposite sex deems them worthy of being in "a relationship."

[Anonymous]

If your son isn’t on the path to become a chad, he’s gonna be one of these boys.

A lot of women posting on this massive thread seem very positive that their sons/future sons won’t have any issues measuring up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do these discussions always operate on the premise that women have all the options and some schmuck is lucky one picked him?

Because think of the people you know who are single at 40 - there are plenty of higher caliber women single at 40 than men. The men still single at 40 all seem to be losers.

Everyone I know who got to their 40's, whether male or female, and is still single has at least one personality or character flaw that explains why they never married. Being divorced is one thing. Never married? If I found myself back in the dating pool again, I would avoid never-married women.

[Anonymous]

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I know tons and tons of single women in the DC area between say 25 and 40. Almost all of them are educated and have their shit together. A number of them are VERY beautiful and fit with active lifestyles. The problem is that most of them are VERY VERY picky. This sort of fault-finding quality goes beyond the usual stuff we see on this site. The thing is, a LOT of the professional women in DC earn much more than the guys found in the local pool if single men. Income disparity is a huge problem. Also, a sort of cockiness has evolved within the large community of professional women with regard to statue, education, and income level. A lot of these single ladies are used to being in charge as well, especially in the workplace, yet most of them make terrible bosses. Then again, not all of them are blessed on the looks scale.

So here is another angle. You have a single woman with a grad degree from a top tier school. She has all the reps and certs, plus the income to go along with it. Probably owns her own place and has the unofficial title of "cool aunt" to her nieces. She probably takes vacations to luxury locales and drives a nice car. That said, she's probably a 7. In her mind, she's a 10 because of all the extra stuff (house, job, income whatever).

To single guys in the DC area, she's still a 7 with all that other baggage. And that 7 will become a 6 soon...and then a 5.

Do you really want to be the "cool aunt" at 45?

As a 40 year old man dating in DC, I completely agree with everything you said. Women in DC get pickier the older they get while their looks diminish. It's total madness. And they wonder why men prefer to date younger?

So they should what? Settle for the mediocre looking schlub incels?

It's very black and white thinking that your only options are former model who now runs a hedge fund versus a sexless loser. Pretty much everyone marries someone in the middle of the spectrum.

I don't know, maybe social media has created this crazy sense of entitlement for both men and women when it comes to what they expect in a partner. Members of Gen X seemed to have much more realistic expectations when it came to what they were looking for in a spouse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am all for supporting women and encouraging them to be leaders. However, I hate what we are doing in society today, forgetting about the boys and younger men sometimes. The old white guys seem to women out in the old generation. But they are different than the young males who are struggling right now.

In my company (in a field that was formerly considered male dominant), 65% of the leadership is women. We were told specifically to promote women into these positions, and once the women are in they continue to push other women into leadership positions. It's like the good old boys network except the other direction.

It's about time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do these discussions always operate on the premise that women have all the options and some schmuck is lucky one picked him?

Because think of the people you know who are single at 40 - there are plenty of higher caliber women single at 40 than men. The men still single at 40 all seem to be losers.

Everyone I know who got to their 40's, whether male or female, and is still single has at least one personality or character flaw that explains why they never married. Being divorced is one thing. Never married? If I found myself back in the dating pool again, I would avoid never-married women.

I'm a never-married woman and avoid divorced men. So it's all works out.