Chastised for not tipping on a to go order

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

This is the issue. I dont understnad what "tipping places" are any more. I thought I knew, but there has been creep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

This is the issue. I dont understnad what "tipping places" are any more. I thought I knew, but there has been creep.

No, you know, and just don't go to them if you don't like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

tipping. is. not. required.
it. is. not. the. law.

True. It. is. an. opportunity. to. show. how. miserly. you. are.

I’m not sure what’s going on with all the periods, but I’m not going to tip the Panera people just for ringing up my coffee or the sandwich shop on top of their wages. Tipping creep is real and not wanting to tip on items and services that were generally non-tip before does not make anybody miserly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

This is the issue. I dont understnad what "tipping places" are any more. I thought I knew, but there has been creep.

No, you know, and just don't go to them if you don't like it.

No, I really don't. I think that tipping for service in restaurants is well understood by everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

This is the issue. I dont understnad what "tipping places" are any more. I thought I knew, but there has been creep.

No, you know, and just don't go to them if you don't like it.

No, I really don't. I think that tipping for service in restaurants is well understood by everyone.

If you really don't know then how about when you go somewhere and they seem to expect tips for services you don't think are deserving of tips then you make your statement by not tipping and then you further make your statement by not patronizing them anymore until you have a clear understanding of places that expect tips.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the NYC area where minimum wage is 15 dollars an hour. I do not tip for takeout, and that was not a thing when I was growing up (I’m in my thirties.) tipping is out of control. I tip for services where I am waited on- like sit down meals at restaurants, haircuts, curbside check in at the airport, etc.

You are misinformed.

Combining Cash Wages and Tips
New York State law allows employers in all industries other than building service to satisfy the minimum wage by combining a “cash wage” paid by the employer with a credit or allowance for tips that the employee receives from customers. For example, the minimum wage for food service workers in New York City is $15.00 per hour. Their employers can satisfy the minimum wage by combining a cash wage of at least $10.00 with a tip allowance of no more than $5.00 per hour.

Food Service Workers have a minimum hourly wage with a maximum hourly tip credit as
follows:
(1) New York City for
(i) Large Employers of eleven or more employees
$7.50 Cash Wage, $3.50 Credit, $11.00 Total on and after December 31, 2016;
$8.65 Cash Wage, $4.35 Credit, $13.00 Total on and after December 31, 2017;
$10.00 Cash Wage, $5.00 Credit, $15.00 Total on and after December 31, 2018;
(ii) Small Employers of ten or fewer employees
$7.50 Cash Wage, $3.00 Credit, $10.50 Total on and after December 31, 2016;
$8.00 Cash Wage, $4.00 Credit, $12.00 Total on and after December 31, 2017;
$9.00 Cash Wage, $4.50 Credit, $13.50 Total on and after December 31, 2018;
$10.00 Cash Wage, $5.00 Credit, $15.00 Total on and after December 31, 2019;

https://dol.ny.gov/minimum-wage-tipped-workers#

For the tip credit in NYC, it requires that employers pool all tips and distribute it amongst employees in tipped roles. each employee much reach $15/hour regardless of whether it comes from the employer or tipping pool. Employers can only claim the above credit if there is a sufficient tip pool. So customers are subsidizing the wages that will be paid either way. This structure is likely the case in a full service restaurant where tipping is the standard. However, carry out orders should not have an employee that relies on tips as part of their payment structure. They should be salaried, like a chef, as they are not interacting with customers or waiting on them like a server would do.

In addition, I just googled nyc wages for a quick service chain line pret a manger, where salaries start at $15 per hour for a cashier. You do not need to tip a cashier in a quick service type place. It’s insane. I work a mid level job and do not get tipped by investment bankers just because they make more than I do. This is their job and that is the salary.

This above is a pretty comprehensive answer to much of this thread. Tips at counter-serve places go to the restaurant, not the worker, in that they lower the wage the restaurant must pay to the worker.

[Anonymous]

If there were no tipping then businesses must raise prices to cover the lack of tips as they meet the minimum wage requirements. So you will be paying either way.

[Anonymous]

OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

[Anonymous]

This is a false peer pressure. I worked at Subway during school and almost no one tipped. The vast majority of people do not tip for to-go orders, don’t feel guilty about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

New poster: what a load of crap. People who don’t tip for things that aren’t true service OR historically things people tip for, doesn’t mean they are cheap when it comes to giving to others. I don’t like leave a tip for picking up carry out (very rare) but I’m extremely generous. It’s not black or white. Similarly, you’re not giving just because you do this. This is a very new thing - having an iPad screen that seems a tip for something like this or having a line item of tip when you online order carry out. This isn’t how it’s always been. A cab driver, waitress, manicurist or hair cutter? Sure. Many others are now new, and they aren’t paid a few bucks an hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

New poster: what a load of crap. People who don’t tip for things that aren’t true service OR historically things people tip for, doesn’t mean they are cheap when it comes to giving to others. I don’t like leave a tip for picking up carry out (very rare) but I’m extremely generous. It’s not black or white. Similarly, you’re not giving just because you do this. This is a very new thing - having an iPad screen that seems a tip for something like this or having a line item of tip when you online order carry out. This isn’t how it’s always been. A cab driver, waitress, manicurist or hair cutter? Sure. Many others are now new, and they aren’t paid a few bucks an hour.

+1. These are the same pushy, Karen-esque, drama queens who used to bleat around here about password sharing a few years ago. It's now the norm because it's common sense. They are just sheep that do something (because a celebrity said so) that makes them feel (because a celebrity said it should) and now are shocked and upset that others are not as stupid as they are!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If there were no tipping then businesses must raise prices to cover the lack of tips as they meet the minimum wage requirements. So you will be paying either way.

I don’t think you understand: the lack of tipping is for employees who are paid at least minimum wage. The cashier handing me a bagel or the hostess handing me my to go bag, make at least minimum wage already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

New poster: what a load of crap. People who don’t tip for things that aren’t true service OR historically things people tip for, doesn’t mean they are cheap when it comes to giving to others. I don’t like leave a tip for picking up carry out (very rare) but I’m extremely generous. It’s not black or white. Similarly, you’re not giving just because you do this. This is a very new thing - having an iPad screen that seems a tip for something like this or having a line item of tip when you online order carry out. This isn’t how it’s always been. A cab driver, waitress, manicurist or hair cutter? Sure. Many others are now new, and they aren’t paid a few bucks an hour.

+1. These are the same pushy, Karen-esque, drama queens who used to bleat around here about password sharing a few years ago. It's now the norm because it's common sense. They are just sheep that do something (because a celebrity said so) that makes them feel (because a celebrity said it should) and now are shocked and upset that others are not as stupid as they are!

Touched a nerve that you aren't generous, so you call other people who disagree with you stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

If you actually read carefully, you’d see that there are many former restaurant employees who think that this tip creep is BS. People who have actually worked in service positions see right through this crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

New poster: what a load of crap. People who don’t tip for things that aren’t true service OR historically things people tip for, doesn’t mean they are cheap when it comes to giving to others. I don’t like leave a tip for picking up carry out (very rare) but I’m extremely generous. It’s not black or white. Similarly, you’re not giving just because you do this. This is a very new thing - having an iPad screen that seems a tip for something like this or having a line item of tip when you online order carry out. This isn’t how it’s always been. A cab driver, waitress, manicurist or hair cutter? Sure. Many others are now new, and they aren’t paid a few bucks an hour.

+1. These are the same pushy, Karen-esque, drama queens who used to bleat around here about password sharing a few years ago. It's now the norm because it's common sense. They are just sheep that do something (because a celebrity said so) that makes them feel (because a celebrity said it should) and now are shocked and upset that others are not as stupid as they are!

Touched a nerve that you aren't generous, so you call other people who disagree with you stupid.

Touched a nerve that you don’t like being called out for your stupidity