DHS Creating "Disinformation Governance Board"

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Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


I have no idea what you are saying here.


If the government censors information, the focus of that censorship will largely support the current government's narrative. COVID would have always had an origin in a Chinese lab. If some Asian people are attacked, the government could simply report that as disinformation as well or block the stories from reaching the public. Neat huh?

Clear enough for you know?


Yeah no. That’s not a thing. Take your conspiratorial fever dreams somewhere else.
Asian people were actually hurt and it was actually reported on. We have a free press and no one in this administration is threatening that.
Of Trump has threatened against that.
Is that what you are referring to?


The only reason you heard about Asian people being hurt was that the government allowed the media to print the stories. What if it didn't in the interest of the "greater good?"


No one is threatening a free press. That is your imagination. Wait that’s not true. The previous president did threaten a free press. And I believe has escalated those threats in his current campaign for a second administration.
But this current administration has done no such thing.
Asians being beat up wasn’t imaginary. That happened, and was the result of disinformation and hate speech. Yes the federal government has an obligation to protect all of their citizens, even the Asian ones.
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Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


But covid did originate in China.


You had no evidence of a lab leak when you started pushing that conspiracy theory. Refer back to the response above:

That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.



“Brought to you by Pfizer”
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


But covid did originate in China.


You had no evidence of a lab leak when you started pushing that conspiracy theory. Refer back to the response above:

That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.



“Brought to you by Pfizer”


Trying to be snarky and doubling down on your dumb covid conspiracy theories doesn't make you any smarter or any more correct.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.



What I find annoying about folks like you is your ignorance of other diseases that shape knowledge of Covid. Many of the initial guidelines were ones that foreign public health officials used for MERS and SARS. You also can’t seem to recognize that information and guidance changes as more is known about an emerging disease.


And yet having these opinions is legal in the US. Or at least it used to be before Biden, which is what this topic is about. Start a different thread if you want to discuss a different topic.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


I have no idea what you are saying here.


DP. As soon as Biden took office, social media started censoring - on behest and at times coerced - anything that related to a lab leak.
It has been documented and these violations of our 1A rights are now making their way through the courts.

That censorship did not happen under Trump. He spoke the truth about the virus originating in China (no one disputes this) but never stopped open dialogue that it came from a wet market.

That is what the PP is saying
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Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


Fact checking is often used to quell dissension, not check facts. Everyone knows what Silicon Valley was doing was putting their thumb on the political scale. Don't act like it's anything otherwise.


NO.

Sorry but it's not "dissention" when it's a proven lie. Your factless half assed opinions and outright lies do not carry equal weight to documented, proven facts.


Still covered by the 1A. Same with calling a biological male is woman - completely factless and verifiably false, but still legal to claim.


Not covered when the lies can be shown to cause damage. You aren't allowed to make false claims about products, you aren't allowed to falsely hold yourself out to be a physician, engineer, attorney, you aren't allowed to threaten to kill or harm someone or their property and so on. 1A is not absolute and the courts and lawmakers have NEVER considered 1A to cover harmful and destructive lies.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


But covid did originate in China.


You had no evidence of a lab leak when you started pushing that conspiracy theory. Refer back to the response above:

That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


conspiracy theories are protected by the first amendment, babe.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


I have no idea what you are saying here.


If the government censors information, the focus of that censorship will largely support the current government's narrative. COVID would have always had an origin in a Chinese lab. If some Asian people are attacked, the government could simply report that as disinformation as well or block the stories from reaching the public. Neat huh?

Clear enough for you know?


Yeah no. That’s not a thing. Take your conspiratorial fever dreams somewhere else.
Asian people were actually hurt and it was actually reported on. We have a free press and no one in this administration is threatening that.
Of Trump has threatened against that.
Is that what you are referring to?


The only reason you heard about Asian people being hurt was that the government allowed the media to print the stories. What if it didn't in the interest of the "greater good?"


No one is threatening a free press. That is your imagination. Wait that’s not true. The previous president did threaten a free press. And I believe has escalated those threats in his current campaign for a second administration.
But this current administration has done no such thing.
Asians being beat up wasn’t imaginary. That happened, and was the result of disinformation and hate speech. Yes the federal government has an obligation to protect all of their citizens, even the Asian ones.


I’m not sure if its even worth responding to you since you don’t even want to engage at all with what the Constitution requires.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


But covid did originate in China.


You had no evidence of a lab leak when you started pushing that conspiracy theory. Refer back to the response above:

That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


conspiracy theories are protected by the first amendment, babe.


Not when they harm people.

And why is it SO DAMN IMPORTANT for you people to constantly, willfully spread vicious, harmful and destructive lies? Why do you insist on being so vile and destructive?
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Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


Fact checking is often used to quell dissension, not check facts. Everyone knows what Silicon Valley was doing was putting their thumb on the political scale. Don't act like it's anything otherwise.


NO.

Sorry but it's not "dissention" when it's a proven lie. Your factless half assed opinions and outright lies do not carry equal weight to documented, proven facts.


Still covered by the 1A. Same with calling a biological male is woman - completely factless and verifiably false, but still legal to claim.


Not covered when the lies can be shown to cause damage. You aren't allowed to make false claims about products, you aren't allowed to falsely hold yourself out to be a physician, engineer, attorney, you aren't allowed to threaten to kill or harm someone or their property and so on. 1A is not absolute and the courts and lawmakers have NEVER considered 1A to cover harmful and destructive lies.


the extent to which “lies” can be legally prohibited is very, very narrow and absolutely would NOT extend to the highly attenuated claim that discussion of the lab leak theory led to attacks on Asians. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12180#:~:text=The%20Supreme%20Court%20has%20said,without%20violating%20the%20First%20Amendment.

But what amazes me about people like you is how you cannot see that allowing “lies” or “harmful speech” to be banned whenever the government want is absolutely going to impact your pet causes. See: Desantis.
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Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


But covid did originate in China.


You had no evidence of a lab leak when you started pushing that conspiracy theory. Refer back to the response above:

That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


conspiracy theories are protected by the first amendment, babe.


Try telling that to the J6 dopes locked up in prison over lies and conspiracy theories, babe.
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Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


Fact checking is often used to quell dissension, not check facts. Everyone knows what Silicon Valley was doing was putting their thumb on the political scale. Don't act like it's anything otherwise.


NO.

Sorry but it's not "dissention" when it's a proven lie. Your factless half assed opinions and outright lies do not carry equal weight to documented, proven facts.


Still covered by the 1A. Same with calling a biological male is woman - completely factless and verifiably false, but still legal to claim.


Not covered when the lies can be shown to cause damage. You aren't allowed to make false claims about products, you aren't allowed to falsely hold yourself out to be a physician, engineer, attorney, you aren't allowed to threaten to kill or harm someone or their property and so on. 1A is not absolute and the courts and lawmakers have NEVER considered 1A to cover harmful and destructive lies.


the extent to which “lies” can be legally prohibited is very, very narrow and absolutely would NOT extend to the highly attenuated claim that discussion of the lab leak theory led to attacks on Asians. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12180#:~:text=The%20Supreme%20Court%20has%20said,without%20violating%20the%20First%20Amendment.

But what amazes me about people like you is how you cannot see that allowing “lies” or “harmful speech” to be banned whenever the government want is absolutely going to impact your pet causes. See: Desantis.


What "liberal lies" would DeSantis suppress?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


But covid did originate in China.


You had no evidence of a lab leak when you started pushing that conspiracy theory. Refer back to the response above:

That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


conspiracy theories are protected by the first amendment, babe.


Not when they harm people.

And why is it SO DAMN IMPORTANT for you people to constantly, willfully spread vicious, harmful and destructive lies? Why do you insist on being so vile and destructive?


Please, post the First Amendment jurisprudence that allows conspiracy theories to be banned because they “harm people.”

And it’s important because we do not want the government deciding what is a lie and what is “misinformation.” There is zero legal distinction between Desantis claiming drag queens are “harmful” and you claiming that questions about vaccine effectiveness are “harmful.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


Fact checking is often used to quell dissension, not check facts. Everyone knows what Silicon Valley was doing was putting their thumb on the political scale. Don't act like it's anything otherwise.


NO.

Sorry but it's not "dissention" when it's a proven lie. Your factless half assed opinions and outright lies do not carry equal weight to documented, proven facts.


Still covered by the 1A. Same with calling a biological male is woman - completely factless and verifiably false, but still legal to claim.


Not covered when the lies can be shown to cause damage. You aren't allowed to make false claims about products, you aren't allowed to falsely hold yourself out to be a physician, engineer, attorney, you aren't allowed to threaten to kill or harm someone or their property and so on. 1A is not absolute and the courts and lawmakers have NEVER considered 1A to cover harmful and destructive lies.


the extent to which “lies” can be legally prohibited is very, very narrow and absolutely would NOT extend to the highly attenuated claim that discussion of the lab leak theory led to attacks on Asians. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12180#:~:text=The%20Supreme%20Court%20has%20said,without%20violating%20the%20First%20Amendment.

But what amazes me about people like you is how you cannot see that allowing “lies” or “harmful speech” to be banned whenever the government want is absolutely going to impact your pet causes. See: Desantis.


What "liberal lies" would DeSantis suppress?


You’re not familiar with his attempts to ban trans healthcare, books, etc? The movement to ban transgender care for teens is absolutely based on the argument that gender affirming care is a “lie” and “harmful.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's astounding how the far right has hamstrung and neutered our nation's ability to counter foreign psyops and disinfo just because they are butthurt over being fact checked online.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gop-muzzled-quiet-coalition-fought-foreign-propaganda-rcna103373


It's a fact that COVID did not leak from a Chinese lab, right?


That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


DP.
Please. The government should not be in the business of restricting the speech of others UNLESS it is threatening or dangerous. Expressing ones opinion on vaccines and the efficacy of them is NOT a reason to restrict speech.
BTW - I have believed all along that the virus originated in a lab and I don't buy into the other crap you wrote - except that the vaccine is not necessary for healthy children. RSV is much, much more dangerous to children. Covid - not so much.
I also have believed from the start that masks don't really work at containing the virus - which turns out to be true.
And, then there is that "6 feet" rule which was also a bunch of bunk.
All kinds of information has been censored by the govt which has turned out to be true. They need to stay out of the business of restricting speech since it is - you know - against the law.


Why don’t you ask all the Asian Americans who got physically assaulted if that speech was dangerous or not.


You do understand that Trump was in charge at that time. If the government could censor the media, it would have been official government policy that COVID was of Chinese origin. Any contrary opinion would have been censored as disinformation.


But covid did originate in China.


You had no evidence of a lab leak when you started pushing that conspiracy theory. Refer back to the response above:

That one falls in the "broken clock is right twice a day" category. Note that the exact same people who ran around saying COVID leaked from a Chinese lab (without evidence) also said:

- COVID is just a hoax engineered by the government to control people: FALSE

- The vaccines contain microchips: FALSE

- The vaccines alter your DNA: FALSE

- The vaccines cause severe side effects and are worse than COVID itself: FALSE, and proven instances of severe side effects were EXTREMELY rare (like one in a million, and you were 32 times more likely to end up with myocarditis if you were unvaccinated and got covid than if you were vaccinated

- The vaccines are not effective: FALSE

- We should not give the vaccines to children: FALSE - turned out that vaccinated kids were 80% less likely to end up in the ER than vaccinated kids

Don't dare get all self rightous over being accidentally right with ONE conspiracy theory out of the DOZENS that you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON.


conspiracy theories are protected by the first amendment, babe.


Try telling that to the J6 dopes locked up in prison over lies and conspiracy theories, babe.


god you are an absolute moron. the J6 defendents were jailed for their actions (invading the capitol) not for posting “the election was stolen” on FB.
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