ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Another activist in MN. Could've killed her.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1qag5jb/ice_agents_caused_a_brutal_car_accident_at/

[Anonymous]

They all left the scene like this after taking her away. Did not provide medical.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

Because the lesson learned is that ICE may murder you.

I live in a large city, value my privacy, and try to keep a low profile. I would never choose to taunt or show disrespect to any law enforcement person for any reason. When I ride public transportation, I do the same. Too many unstable, trigger-happy people in this modern world.

Your silence is not respect, it is fear. Think about it; is ICE doing its job if normal citizens are afraid of them?

normal citizens aren't afraid of them. it is politically active leftists who portray them as the Gestapo and pretend to cower in fear. but most normal citizens are happy that they are out there enforcing the laws and getting rid of illegals.

"normal" citizens? US citizens and legal immigrants have been targeted. The tactics used against anyone they decide to harass are unnecessarily harsh and inappropriate. Wake up fool. Normal people see them as unnecessarily violent and blunt force. ICE have earned a bad rep and have lost respect from anyone "normal".

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

Because the lesson learned is that ICE may murder you.

I live in a large city, value my privacy, and try to keep a low profile. I would never choose to taunt or show disrespect to any law enforcement person for any reason. When I ride public transportation, I do the same. Too many unstable, trigger-happy people in this modern world.

Your silence is not respect, it is fear. Think about it; is ICE doing its job if normal citizens are afraid of them?

normal citizens aren't afraid of them. it is politically active leftists who portray them as the Gestapo and pretend to cower in fear. but most normal citizens are happy that they are out there enforcing the laws and getting rid of illegals.

"normal" citizens? US citizens and legal immigrants have been targeted. The tactics used against anyone they decide to harass are unnecessarily harsh and inappropriate. Wake up fool. Normal people see them as unnecessarily violent and blunt force. ICE have earned a bad rep and have lost respect from anyone "normal".

How about no...... Dr. Evil

[Anonymous]

Renee Good was someone’s spouse, parent, daughter, etc.

She showed zero signs of aggression towards the agents or the public at large.

No one’s life was in danger - except sadly her own.

This was not a violent confrontation -> that is until the agent made it so.
It is obvious that he was angered by Renee and her wife and I am sure he was also pissed that she had her car blocking their vehicles.
But none of that justifies him shooting her in the head three times, thus ending her life.

She was a person, a human being.
One who had rights.
Mostly the right to live.

And she was clearly not an immediate threat to anyone who was present during this tragic confrontation.

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Anonymous wrote:This is clear as day - anyone who cannot see this is just plain stupid.

The agent had a great deal of animosity toward the victim.
Proven by him calling her a “bi#%ch” as she drove off.

Wow, seconds after pummeling bullets into her head he has the audacity to call her the B word.

He had other options.
He should have removed his ego and emotions from the equation and simply let her drive away.

What physical danger was she at that point??

It was a tragic situation. But if you watch the video in slow motion the sequence is as follows:

1. Engine revs.
2. Tires spin briefly.
3. When the car begins to move the tires are facing directly at the officer.
4. Officer fired his weapon.

He can say credibly that he feared for his life. He will likely be acquitted. Again, a tragic situation.

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Anonymous wrote:This is clear as day - anyone who cannot see this is just plain stupid.

The agent had a great deal of animosity toward the victim.
Proven by him calling her a “bi#%ch” as she drove off.

Wow, seconds after pummeling bullets into her head he has the audacity to call her the B word.

He had other options.
He should have removed his ego and emotions from the equation and simply let her drive away.

What physical danger was she at that point??

It was a tragic situation. But if you watch the video in slow motion the sequence is as follows:

1. Engine revs.
2. Tires spin briefly.
3. When the car begins to move the tires are facing directly at the officer.
4. Officer fired his weapon.

He can say credibly that he feared for his life. He will likely be acquitted. Again, a tragic situation.

That's...not what it shows. It shows her turning her wheel hard to the right, away from the ICE officer, and the him stepping forward, toward the car, to fire at her.

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Anonymous wrote:This is clear as day - anyone who cannot see this is just plain stupid.

The agent had a great deal of animosity toward the victim.
Proven by him calling her a “bi#%ch” as she drove off.

Wow, seconds after pummeling bullets into her head he has the audacity to call her the B word.

He had other options.
He should have removed his ego and emotions from the equation and simply let her drive away.

What physical danger was she at that point??

It was a tragic situation. But if you watch the video in slow motion the sequence is as follows:

1. Engine revs.
2. Tires spin briefly.
3. When the car begins to move the tires are facing directly at the officer.
4. Officer fired his weapon.

He can say credibly that he feared for his life. He will likely be acquitted. Again, a tragic situation.

That's...not what it shows. It shows her turning her wheel hard to the right, away from the ICE officer, and the him stepping forward, toward the car, to fire at her.

The tires were pointing hard left. She turned the steering wheel hard right, but when the car began to move forward the tires were still pointing straight. Directly at the officer. Then the wheels spun. That’s when the officer drew his weapon. The wheels didn’t begin to turn tight until after the first shot. Again, horrible tragedy that did not have to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

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Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

It'd be cool if they could be professional though.

And not murder people.

FA FO

And here it is. These MAGA folks are just itching to have the slightest excuse (despite how illogical) to kill someone. They watch FoX News all day and fantasize about blowing some liberal’s head off.

We don’t want to blow the head off anyone. If you follow lawful orders, act accordingly, don’t interfere and you’ll be fine. Unfortunately, she found out the hard way.

ICE was not lawful in ordering anything to Renee Good. ICE is not traffic cop. Stop gaslighting.

You are wrong for the 20th time. It wasn’t about traffic, it was about interference.

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Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

The command may have been. Forcing the door open was not.

The command was not lawful. Don’t allow these clowns to gaslight you. This entire interaction was unlawful on ICE’s part.

You realize that ICE has the authority to detain a U.S. citizen if they interfere with their duties, right?

For the millionth time, she was not interfering - ICE was not chasing a suspect, these murders were on their break and should have behaved like any other normal people would do to call police if they were annoyed by Renee. Instead these little men wanted to show her their gun power and killed her.

Really? They were on a break? That's awful this man thought he needed to be so aggressive while on a break.

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Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

The command may have been. Forcing the door open was not.

The command was not lawful. Don’t allow these clowns to gaslight you. This entire interaction was unlawful on ICE’s part.

You realize that ICE has the authority to detain a U.S. citizen if they interfere with their duties, right?

For the millionth time, she was not interfering - ICE was not chasing a suspect, these murders were on their break and should have behaved like any other normal people would do to call police if they were annoyed by Renee. Instead these little men wanted to show her their gun power and killed her.

Wrong again.

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Anonymous wrote:It is tragic she died. But she and her wife were out there to disrupt ICE as much as possible. I am not sure what compels anyone to actually provoke a team of federal officials who are clearly armed.

Protest? Sure. Vote against the politicians implementing the policies? Sure.

But interjecting and engaging the officers literally; that (at best) gets you arrested - at worst dead.

Neither of those outcomes are worth the risk.

+1

Why did you make me hit you?

Do you ever take personal responsibility for any of your decisions and their outcomes?

Does ICE ever take responsibility for any of its decisions and their outcomes? No, they just lie about them.

You're no different if you don't believe in taking personal responsibility for your decisions and actions.

Do you think you’re actually making a point, here?

No one makes a decision to get shot in the face. People DO make decisions to SHOOT SOMEONE in the face. Do you really not understand the difference?

You don't seem to understand that consequences occur for decisions and actions. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's life. Not everyone is nice, kind, and caring.

It'd be cool if they could be professional though.

And not murder people.

FA FO

And here it is. These MAGA folks are just itching to have the slightest excuse (despite how illogical) to kill someone. They watch FoX News all day and fantasize about blowing some liberal’s head off.

We don’t want to blow the head off anyone. If you follow lawful orders, act accordingly, don’t interfere and you’ll be fine. Unfortunately, she found out the hard way.

ICE was not lawful in ordering anything to Renee Good. ICE is not traffic cop. Stop gaslighting.

You are wrong for the 20th time. It wasn’t about traffic, it was about interference.

What interference - they were on a break driving back to HQ... all she interfered was a free flow of traffic. The punishment of that is not death and certainly ICE cannot and mustnot manage traffic in a city!

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Anonymous wrote:Go on.

Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

The command may have been. Forcing the door open was not.

The command was not lawful. Don’t allow these clowns to gaslight you. This entire interaction was unlawful on ICE’s part.

You realize that ICE has the authority to detain a U.S. citizen if they interfere with their duties, right?

For the millionth time, she was not interfering - ICE was not chasing a suspect, these murders were on their break and should have behaved like any other normal people would do to call police if they were annoyed by Renee. Instead these little men wanted to show her their gun power and killed her.

Really? They were on a break? That's awful this man thought he needed to be so aggressive while on a break.

Jonathan Ross is insecure maniac who murdered Renee out of rage.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Officer Ross actually leaned in a little bit, almost to make the car hit him.

He walked right in front of the car, intending to shoot her from the start.

Remember, he was working for US Border Patrol until about 2015, when agents used tactics like this to get dinged by a car so they could justify shooting the driver as "self defense".

He knew what he was doing - this was no accident.

Report Criticizes Border Patrol's Use Of Deadly Force

An independent review of 67 cases in which Border Patrol agents used deadly force found that in some of them "agents have deliberately stepped in the path of cars apparently to justify shooting at the drivers and have fired in frustration at people throwing rocks from the Mexican side of the border."

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/27/283455547/report-criticizes-border-patrols-use-of-force

Apparently agents would lean towards oncoming cars just enough to claim they were hit when they were angry that the drivers wouldn't follow orders. They thought it was a loophole - and I'm sure it works, except when there are so many videos.