Gaza war and College Campus Protests

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why these protesters weren't at the RNC? I honestly don't understand why they're protesting the DNC, but not Bibi's bestie Donald, who definitely doesn't care about Palestinians.

These are people who want “their party” to represent their interests. The leadership just expects everyone to shut up and fall in line. Things are changing.

They don't get to call the Democrats "their party" when they run around shrieking "Genocide Joe" and heckling Democrats during campaign events and so on. They have clearly taken a hateful, adversarial anti-Democrat position.

And don't even get me started on the fact that they are being organized and funded by Iran. To me, that means their political party is the IRGC, and it's clear they won't vote for Democrats - I don't recognize them as Democrats.

The Dems are a lot more than just Israel. You only care about Israel and enforcing your views on everyone else.

Let's be blunt and honest here - the staunchly pro-Hamas part of America may be obnoxiously loud and visible through its vandalism and occupying of street intersections but in terms of numbers, it's only 2% tops even in places like Michigan which has the highest percentage of Muslims. You want to enforce your views on 98% of America.

lol 98% of Americans do not give a sh#t if Israel continues or ceases to exist tomorrow. They can’t even find it on a map. Israel is a Jewish state and only 2% of the country is Jewish. Tell me again why 98% of the country is no allowed to migrate to Israel?

The dems are against racism, intolerance, oppression, apartheid, genocide but are for freedom, justice, religion freedoms, democracy, protection for minorities, helping the down trodden and oppressed, the constitution, equal rights, human right, etc. Now you think because Israel is important to you everyone should throw out their values and ignore what Israel is?

Do you know that people who aren't Jewish care about whether or not the State of Israel exists or not? The small percentage of Jews in this country =/= the percentage who care about the issue. For that matter, not all 2% of US Jews want Israel to exist.

As for finding it on a map, people voted on their feelings about Afghanistan and Iraq and couldn't find those on a map either. Americans form opinions about issues all the time without regard for maps.

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LOL at angry supporter of Hamas reporting posts she doesn't like.

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Protests at DNC a complete bust so far.

Media reporting a few thousand, organizers had anticipated 20k+.

Piles of unused signs scattered throughout the protest area.

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Look. This forum is still alive.

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Anonymous wrote:Protests at DNC a complete bust so far.

Media reporting a few thousand, organizers had anticipated 20k+.

Piles of unused signs scattered throughout the protest area.

People just getting off work now...

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Anonymous wrote:There is only PP here who is keeping this thread alive with insane Hamas support and hatred toward Jews. I implore all to stop posting here again. I will now take my advice, lest I call the FBI on this terrorist.

Weaponizing the state because you have a political disagreement on an anonymous online forum?

Really?

You talk like a terrorist, and you shout and threaten here; we are just preserving the safety of our people from terrorists like you. You told another pp to eff... and you added, "That is not a suggestion.

I think you're failing to realize that there's a lot more than one person... I haven't issued any threats (I don't think I've seen any threats either. but maybe I'm not reading closely enough?). To threaten to use the state is rather cowardly though...

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Anonymous wrote:Protests at DNC a complete bust so far.

Media reporting a few thousand, organizers had anticipated 20k+.

Piles of unused signs scattered throughout the protest area.

People just getting off work now...

...And those people would have all been at the protest if their schedules had allowed it?

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Seems like a decent turnout?

Don't trust the media. Go to user streams for live footage...

https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi

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Anonymous wrote: There is only PP here who is keeping this thread alive with insane Hamas support and hatred toward Jews. I implore all to stop posting here again. I will now take my advice, lest I call the FBI on this terrorist.

Weaponizing the state because you have a political disagreement on an anonymous online forum?

Really?

You talk like a terrorist, and you shout and threaten here; we are just preserving the safety of our people from terrorists like you. You told another pp to eff... and you added, "That is not a suggestion.

I think you're failing to realize that there's a lot more than one person... I haven't issued any threats (I don't think I've seen any threats either. but maybe I'm not reading closely enough?). To threaten to use the state is rather cowardly though...

It's not one lonely nut, it's a paid team armed with talking points. Stop engaging.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a decent turnout?

Don't trust the media. Go to user streams for live footage...

https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi

Good for them.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that Iran wants one of their proxies in charge of Palestine - Hamas or Hezbollah. And Iran is who is organizing these pro-Palestine protests. There aren't any strong pro-Palestine voices out there pushing back on the Iranian agenda.

It’s difficult to take your claim seriously. Those who share that view continue to press propaganda like this and refuse to accept that the only way that could even possibly be true is if Israel’s relentless campaign to deprive the Palestinians of hope for freedom and a future has led them right into the arms of Iran (or whatever boogeyman du jour).

And if the latter is true, why are we not talking about accountability in Israel for creating and mercilessly persisting with the conditions that led us to this point, where a country 1,500 miles away is able to establish influence as a counter-balance to the oppression model?

I don't care about your incredulity about "my claim" about Iran - it's not my claim, it's widely known. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/iranian-government-actors-seeking-advantage-pro-palestinian-protests/story?id=111786372 Take your incredulity and complaints elsewhere, they go nowhere with me.

And regarding the latter, you aren't exactly refuting me and are in fact justifying Iran's involvement and meddling. You also haven't refuted my argument that there aren't any strong pro-Palestine voices among the protesters strongly condemning and rejecting Hamas and Hezbollah (and in terms as strong as the ones they use against Israel) and proposing a genuinely new and different leadership direction or regime for Palestine.

So you still haven't even remotely made the case that anything I said is somehow "dishonest" or "despicable" or "slanderous" or "propaganda."

The Palestinians live in concentration camps. It’s completely dishonest to pretend that there’s such a thing as “leadership” in this camps. There’s no entry or exit without Israel’s control. There no access to sea or air.

What are you even talking about?

Sure, I’ll join you in emphatically calling for new leadership in Gaza. Now what? Are you pathetically trying to condition throttling back the murder of civilians on this false premise that such a shared goal (new “leadership” in what amounts to a prison or concentration camp) is achievable given how Israel has chosen to execute this conflict.

Do the new leaders in Gaza show up tomorrow morning to pick up their keys to the city (of rubble)?

Hamas runs the camps. Trying to say "there's no leadership" is complete nonsense.

Now go back and address the rest of the points? The fact that you're running away from answering the rest of them suggests you know the truth that Iran has its fingers deep in all of this. The fact that you can't point to any Palestinians outside of Palestine or anyone else who carries any weight with regard to new leadership tells me you are unprepared and unequipped to even be having any meaningful conversation whatsoever about the future of Palestinians.

All you seem to have is a bunch of attacks, only to retreat, dodge and weave when your attacks are confronted. It's really quite a fail on your part.

DP. The issue is not Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, etc. The issue is Israel treatment of the Palestinians. When Israel was formed Israel kicked 750,000 Palestinians out of the country- no compensation, no rights, etc. Right to return, compensation, etc are the issues that needs to be resolved. Everything else is just Cat in the Hat's assistants making things worst exponentially.

Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, etc will just be replaced by the next in a long line of organizations and states trying to right the injustice and misery Israel is responsible for creating. Israel has made one thing clear. They would rather kill everyone else in the Middle East vs make peace.

Israel lives by the sword. Everyone who lives by the sword dies by the sword. It is long past time for Israel to do the right thing.

History shows that for several hundred years, "Palestine" was part of the Ottoman Empire and that much of the lands were owned by Egyptians, Syrians, Turks etc.

History shows that Jews legally BOUGHT a big chunk of "Palestine" from Turkish, Egyptian, Syrian owners starting in the early 1900s. Yet "Palestinians" deny this and claim that every inch of land was somehow stolen from them, and never accepted the Jews from day one.

History shows that the British administered "Mandatory Palestine" after it was captured from the Ottoman Turks (not "Palestinian" control) in WWI.

History shows that the British who controlled Palestine recognized lands to be granted to Jews under the League of Nations deal in 1948. Palestinians, who did not own or control that land refused to recognize it from day one.

They teamed up with Arab neighbors and tried to exterminate the Jews. Repeatedly.

Yet here you are, pretending the Jews just dropped out of the sky from a UFO one day and stole everything and just started victimizing innocent Arabs who never did a damn thing to anyone. Your understanding of history is woefully incomplete.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a decent turnout?

Don't trust the media. Go to user streams for live footage...

https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi

How about we listen to the march organizers?

“ Abudayyeh, a spokesman for the coalition and a pro-Palestinian activist, acknowledged on Monday that the turnout was far from the tens of thousands that organizers had hoped for.”

Or reporters on scene:

“ Organizers of this protest had said they expected tens of thousands of people to join in, but the actual number appears to be in the low thousands.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/19/us/chicago-dnc-protests.html

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Anonymous wrote: There is only PP here who is keeping this thread alive with insane Hamas support and hatred toward Jews. I implore all to stop posting here again. I will now take my advice, lest I call the FBI on this terrorist.

Weaponizing the state because you have a political disagreement on an anonymous online forum?

Really?

You talk like a terrorist, and you shout and threaten here; we are just preserving the safety of our people from terrorists like you. You told another pp to eff... and you added, "That is not a suggestion.

I think you're failing to realize that there's a lot more than one person... I haven't issued any threats (I don't think I've seen any threats either. but maybe I'm not reading closely enough?). To threaten to use the state is rather cowardly though...

It's not one lonely nut, it's a paid team armed with talking points. Stop engaging.

DP

Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs talk

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a decent turnout?

Don't trust the media. Go to user streams for live footage...

https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi

Good for them.

Damn, you want attention away from Israel’s atrocities so badly, don’t you?

It’s fascinating to see someone filled with rage and so hell-bent on stopping others from bringing attention to the state-sponsored terrorism they support so unconditionally.

Sucks to be you right now, I guess.

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I love how this guy is so deep in his rabbit hole that he thinks that (1) we're all Iranian paid actors, (2) he thinks there's just one person, and (3) he thinks the American FBI cares about people having a politically charged debate on an internet forum...

Even if there was hate speech here (which it's hard to see how anything qualifies as such), the US doesn't regulate hate speech...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20does%20not,Amendment%20to%20the%20U.S.%20Constitution.

Only Zuckerberg, Brin, Altman, and the rest of elite tech does....