Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

Absolutely!! She aired their dirty laundry through TMZ and the tabloids. She had him labelled a wife beater. She was a keynote speaker airing all her accusations in speeches about dv. How many years was JD supposed to let people hear this??

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

Well that's fine, but then don't blame them when your life is ruined by the reporting on the trial you instigated rather than the action that made you mad.

His life was not ruined by the trial. It was ruined by her allegations.

I disagree. Prior the trial I was neutral about Depp - as many of us were. I was concerned but not swayed by Heard’s Op-Ed. Post trial I’m revolted by Depp. His misogyny and clear disregard for women (talks about women as fish, feels entitled to have sex with them, calls women horrible derogatory names) and clearly fantasized about murdering Heard - or having someone murder her - and leaving her on a trunk. Will never see him the same way thanks to this trial.

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

Well that's fine, but then don't blame them when your life is ruined by the reporting on the trial you instigated rather than the action that made you mad.

His life was not ruined by the trial. It was ruined by her allegations.

I disagree. Prior the trial I was neutral about Depp - as many of us were. I was concerned but not swayed by Heard’s Op-Ed. Post trial I’m revolted by Depp. His misogyny and clear disregard for women (talks about women as fish, feels entitled to have sex with them, calls women horrible derogatory names) and clearly fantasized about murdering Heard - or having someone murder her - and leaving her on a trunk. Will never see him the same way thanks to this trial.

NP. That’s interesting! I didn’t read the op ed or anything but I definitely thought of JD as an abuser and addict/hot mess before the trial and while the trial hasn’t improved my opinion of him much, it’s definitely made me view AH as just as much of a hot mess and also culpable in the disaster that was their relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

Well that's fine, but then don't blame them when your life is ruined by the reporting on the trial you instigated rather than the action that made you mad.

His life was not ruined by the trial. It was ruined by her allegations.

I disagree. Prior the trial I was neutral about Depp - as many of us were. I was concerned but not swayed by Heard’s Op-Ed. Post trial I’m revolted by Depp. His misogyny and clear disregard for women (talks about women as fish, feels entitled to have sex with them, calls women horrible derogatory names) and clearly fantasized about murdering Heard - or having someone murder her - and leaving her on a trunk. Will never see him the same way thanks to this trial.

To many others though, the trial has allowed him to make his case against AH's allegations of SA. And anyway, JD is not complaining that his life was ruined by the trial. He knew that his dirty laundry would be aired and understood that was the price to pay.

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

That’s actually not what the op-Ed said. You are conflating what she wrote with the headline, which WaPo wrote and published in the one line edition without her approval. Even Depp’s legal team does not dispute this.

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

That’s actually not what the op-Ed said. You are conflating what she wrote with the headline, which WaPo wrote and published in the one line edition without her approval. Even Depp’s legal team does not dispute this.

Not true. JD team is arguing that by tweeting the headline, she essentially took ownership of the statement and lent her name to it. She basically approves it. If the statement was false, why didn't just she demand WaPo to change it? She wanted that statement there because it further sensationalized her story

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They’re both terrible people, but you can’t go around ruining a public person’s reputation when their career depends on it, so the balance is slightly against Heard.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s equally terrifying about this trial is the assumption that if someone is an alcoholic or addict that they are also physically abusive. I’ve known plenty of alcoholics that were not physically abusive at all, just sloppy. She’s gross for using his alcoholism to bolster her case without any evidence.

That’s a new reach.

That is what Amber heard‘s expert witness testified to. In a nutshell, he said that even though he had never treated Johnny Depp, because he was an alcoholic but pointed that he was also an abuser.

That’s not what he said. She said that Depp exhibited a number of risk factors that correlated with IPV, including substance abuse disorder. Correlation is not causation, and correlations don’t have to be perfect. They just create a risk profile, particularly when considered with other correlating factors.

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

Absolutely!! She aired their dirty laundry through TMZ and the tabloids. She had him labelled a wife beater. She was a keynote speaker airing all her accusations in speeches about dv. How many years was JD supposed to let people hear this??

Her op Ed was vague, the extensive contemporaneous reporting of DV incidents between them that happened at the time (ie, there was a lot of reporting about the finger incident at the time) is what created the impression they had a violent relationship. I follow a ton of celebrity gossip and knew they had a volatile relationship long before the op Ed. I actually didn’t read the op Ed but now I know he was texting Paul Bettany about rapping her corpse and any shred of the (previously very deep!) affection I had for Johnny Depp has been replaced with disgust. And it is 100% the trials that have done that. I used to be able to cover up new drunk Johnny stories with memories of past movies, now I just see him for the disgusting misogynistic abusive addict and sh!tty parent he’s proven he is.

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

That’s actually not what the op-Ed said. You are conflating what she wrote with the headline, which WaPo wrote and published in the one line edition without her approval. Even Depp’s legal team does not dispute this.

Not true. JD team is arguing that by tweeting the headline, she essentially took ownership of the statement and lent her name to it. She basically approves it. If the statement was false, why didn't just she demand WaPo to change it? She wanted that statement there because it further sensationalized her story

Actually, it is true. Nothing in what you posted contradicts that WaPo wrote the headline, or that they published it online without reviewing it with Heard first.

And simply sharing a link to content on the same internet platform is not republication for defamation purposes, per federal law.

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They’re both terrible people, but you can’t go around ruining a public person’s reputation when their career depends on it, so the balance is slightly against Heard.

Only one of them has ruined the other’s career and it’s not her

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

Well that's fine, but then don't blame them when your life is ruined by the reporting on the trial you instigated rather than the action that made you mad.

His life was not ruined by the trial. It was ruined by her allegations.

I disagree. Prior the trial I was neutral about Depp - as many of us were. I was concerned but not swayed by Heard’s Op-Ed. Post trial I’m revolted by Depp. His misogyny and clear disregard for women (talks about women as fish, feels entitled to have sex with them, calls women horrible derogatory names) and clearly fantasized about murdering Heard - or having someone murder her - and leaving her on a trunk. Will never see him the same way thanks to this trial.

NP. That’s interesting! I didn’t read the op ed or anything but I definitely thought of JD as an abuser and addict/hot mess before the trial and while the trial hasn’t improved my opinion of him much, it’s definitely made me view AH as just as much of a hot mess and also culpable in the disaster that was their relationship.

I guess I don’t think Heard did anything to deserve the abuse she received - and no abused person “deserves” that type of treatment no matter how imperfect they are. YMMV.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. That’s interesting! I didn’t read the op ed or anything but I definitely thought of JD as an abuser and addict/hot mess before the trial and while the trial hasn’t improved my opinion of him much, it’s definitely made me view AH as just as much of a hot mess and also culpable in the disaster that was their relationship.

I believe this is why JD went through with the trial, to just embarrass her and expose her crazy behavior like she did his. He doesn't want the money from her; he just wants to make sure her reputation is ruined now.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. That’s interesting! I didn’t read the op ed or anything but I definitely thought of JD as an abuser and addict/hot mess before the trial and while the trial hasn’t improved my opinion of him much, it’s definitely made me view AH as just as much of a hot mess and also culpable in the disaster that was their relationship.

I believe this is why JD went through with the trial, to just embarrass her and expose her crazy behavior like she did his. He doesn't want the money from her; he just wants to make sure her reputation is ruined now.

Which make both of them a**holes

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Not saying he's a blameless victim but AH is certainly not a blameless victim like she has been portraying herself either

She's not suing him and she didn't decide to air all their dirty laundry across international courtrooms. She wrote a vague op ed that would never have made that much news because it discussed events that had already been widely reported on. Acting like she has launched some large campaign against him is not an accurate reflection of reality. He has in fact dragged her through the mud as loudly and dramatically as possible though, and himself along with her.

She wrote an oped that insinuated he was sexually violent and engaged in marital rape. If someone vaguely accused me of that publicly with no evidence to back it up AND that person had plenty of skeletons in their closet, you bet I’d drag them through the mud and then some.

Well that's fine, but then don't blame them when your life is ruined by the reporting on the trial you instigated rather than the action that made you mad.

His life was not ruined by the trial. It was ruined by her allegations.

I disagree. Prior the trial I was neutral about Depp - as many of us were. I was concerned but not swayed by Heard’s Op-Ed. Post trial I’m revolted by Depp. His misogyny and clear disregard for women (talks about women as fish, feels entitled to have sex with them, calls women horrible derogatory names) and clearly fantasized about murdering Heard - or having someone murder her - and leaving her on a trunk. Will never see him the same way thanks to this trial.

NP. That’s interesting! I didn’t read the op ed or anything but I definitely thought of JD as an abuser and addict/hot mess before the trial and while the trial hasn’t improved my opinion of him much, it’s definitely made me view AH as just as much of a hot mess and also culpable in the disaster that was their relationship.

I guess I don’t think Heard did anything to deserve the abuse she received - and no abused person “deserves” that type of treatment no matter how imperfect they are. YMMV.

I hope that your "no abused person" also includes JD. He was also abused and imperfect (alcohol and drug) and did not deserved the hate he received after her allegations were made public