Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HAHA. Just saw the ACLU is demanding JD to pay them $86,253.26 for wasting their time to produce all the records and expenses on Amber's Pledge.

I still don’t understand how these pledges are relevant to the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Omg I got that call too!!! So weird - why do they care about public perception? Why does that even matter?

Because Johnny depp is a deeply weird, deeply petty man.

Weird is being a person who puts poop in a bed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've listened to most of the trial and I support AH. Seems clear he did a lot of bad stuff he doesn't remember.

I don't understand the self-confidence of someone who spent years abusing drugs and alcohol and yet seems to claim with absolute certainty that he would never do _____ [hit a woman/damage property/harm someone/etc.]. There is plenty of evidence that he did this terrible stuff -- punched out walls, completely destroyed property, scared people (especially women) he was being destructive around that he might hurt them, behave in a generally out of control way, even hit people or things accidentally - on top of testimony about more personal and damaging hitting/violence behind closed doors. He just doesn't want to believe he did this stuff, despite evidence to the contrary, because he doesn't want to be that guy. Isn't it pretty to think so? He needs help and some truth tellers around him who aren't on his payroll.

I agree with all of this, but think it's very telling that he's never taken responsibility for *any* of his behavior including his embarrassing unprofessionalism. He denies he has a substance abuse problem ffs even with photographic evidence! Who could possibly believe a single thing he claims to be true?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've listened to most of the trial and I support AH. Seems clear he did a lot of bad stuff he doesn't remember.

I don't understand the self-confidence of someone who spent years abusing drugs and alcohol and yet seems to claim with absolute certainty that he would never do _____ [hit a woman/damage property/harm someone/etc.]. There is plenty of evidence that he did this terrible stuff -- punched out walls, completely destroyed property, scared people (especially women) he was being destructive around that he might hurt them, behave in a generally out of control way, even hit people or things accidentally - on top of testimony about more personal and damaging hitting/violence behind closed doors. He just doesn't want to believe he did this stuff, despite evidence to the contrary, because he doesn't want to be that guy. Isn't it pretty to think so? He needs help and some truth tellers around him who aren't on his payroll.

I agree with all of this, but think it's very telling that he's never taken responsibility for *any* of his behavior including his embarrassing unprofessionalism. He denies he has a substance abuse problem ffs even with photographic evidence! Who could possibly believe a single thing he claims to be true?

The same exact thing can be said about her

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:HAHA. Just saw the ACLU is demanding JD to pay them $86,253.26 for wasting their time to produce all the records and expenses on Amber's Pledge.

This seems reasonable. They used their time and resources to find documentations intead of doing their usual job.

This is normal. The law allows for reasonable copying and related expenses to respond to a subpoena duces tecum. This isn’t a ha ha thing. It is what it is. Do you not think she paid up the wazoo for the evidence (inc. testimony) reviewed?

Oh it is HA, HA when the Media is talking about it! You know this what this whole case it's about.. Media attention requested by JD! Ha, Ha.

[Anonymous]

The jury’s question is interesting. It makes me think they are being very critical of AH’s case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've listened to most of the trial and I support AH. Seems clear he did a lot of bad stuff he doesn't remember.

I don't understand the self-confidence of someone who spent years abusing drugs and alcohol and yet seems to claim with absolute certainty that he would never do _____ [hit a woman/damage property/harm someone/etc.]. There is plenty of evidence that he did this terrible stuff -- punched out walls, completely destroyed property, scared people (especially women) he was being destructive around that he might hurt them, behave in a generally out of control way, even hit people or things accidentally - on top of testimony about more personal and damaging hitting/violence behind closed doors. He just doesn't want to believe he did this stuff, despite evidence to the contrary, because he doesn't want to be that guy. Isn't it pretty to think so? He needs help and some truth tellers around him who aren't on his payroll.

I agree with all of this, but think it's very telling that he's never taken responsibility for *any* of his behavior including his embarrassing unprofessionalism. He denies he has a substance abuse problem ffs even with photographic evidence! Who could possibly believe a single thing he claims to be true?

He didn't deny that he had an opioid addiction.

[Anonymous]

She did a lot of recording. Why is there none of him being abusive to her?

I'm not a lawyer and won't guess at the outcome. However, I hope people in general realize that men can be victims of DV.

How did the lovely Ms Heard put it? Something about "Go ahead - tell people that Johnny Depp is abused. Who is going to believe you? You're such a baby. I didn't punch you, I hit you."

If he was apparently violent while drunk, why did she pour him a drink when he got home? That makes no sense to me.

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Anonymous wrote:It's weird to me that he did this to clear his name for his kids, yet the second the trial was over he went to London, instead of to spend time with his kids.

None of this was done for his kids.

The worst thing out of this is that my college age DD just told me that she supports JD! She is full of vitriol towards AH and why? Because she gets her news from the YTU, and we have a young woman exposed to opinions of nasty people and all her friends that are young women too are cheering for the abusive narcissist against the rights of women!
She was his supply, and she refused to take it and gave it back. That is her sin, he is abusing her still. Let us remember who started all the trials. Who is smirking like a looney narc. Is she perfect? No. And the world is using the same Othering of women used for centuries, where if we are not docile and take abuse, we are irrational, histrionic, nasty. To this day, haunted houses show tours in the South where the evil 13 year old slave seduced her master and the mistress punished her, and then she was killed for her sins!! To this day many blame an innocent child for being raped.
I worked with one, had to change jobs, he did the same exact thing. I would say, Mike said this, and I had notes, and he would say, in front of all the staff, I never said that, I never did that. Wanted me to write a report about a missing document that I took somewhere... and when I asked to see the dates I was on vacation the whole week! I was lucky to run away, but he is till running a smear campaign against me.

It depends on the state. This trial requires a unanimous opinion. In my opinion, Johnny Depp is unlikely to win. Amber heard is also unlikely to win.
Yesterday a poster was arguing that no one here believes only women get abused. This seems to be what you believe?? Have you heard all the evidence? Good for your daughter to have open eyes and ears!

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SO many people here are taking sides without having watched the trial. I listened to the entire thing and whether JD wins or loses based on the technicalities of defamation, I truly believe AH is a liar, an abuser and someone who concocted this entire thing for fame and to take him down. She does not speak for victims of DV. She's awful.

There is a huge possibility that JD loses the case because that only takes one single juror to double down and say no. The win will only come about if there is a unanimous vote for him. I wonder if we'll eventually find out how the vote went (how many jurors for/against). It really doesn't matter much what the jury returns because most of us have already made up our mind as who's the liar.

I thought it was just a majority because it’s a civil case? Isn’t unanimous just for criminal? If it is unanimous I think he’s very very unlike to win. As evidenced by this thread, a bunch of people seeing the same trial are interpreting/believing the witnesses very differently.

It depends on the state. This trial requires a unanimous opinion. In my opinion, Johnny Depp is unlikely to win. Amber heard is also unlikely to win.

Thanks for clarifying! Agreed, in that case I think neither is going to win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She did a lot of recording. Why is there none of him being abusive to her?

I'm not a lawyer and won't guess at the outcome. However, I hope people in general realize that men can be victims of DV.

How did the lovely Ms Heard put it? Something about "Go ahead - tell people that Johnny Depp is abused. Who is going to believe you? You're such a baby. I didn't punch you, I hit you."

If he was apparently violent while drunk, why did she pour him a drink when he got home? That makes no sense to me.

Sincere question that I'm hoping someone with DV or IPV training can answer. Why would AH buy JD an engraved knife as a gift after he had abused her?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've listened to most of the trial and I support AH. Seems clear he did a lot of bad stuff he doesn't remember.

I don't understand the self-confidence of someone who spent years abusing drugs and alcohol and yet seems to claim with absolute certainty that he would never do _____ [hit a woman/damage property/harm someone/etc.]. There is plenty of evidence that he did this terrible stuff -- punched out walls, completely destroyed property, scared people (especially women) he was being destructive around that he might hurt them, behave in a generally out of control way, even hit people or things accidentally - on top of testimony about more personal and damaging hitting/violence behind closed doors. He just doesn't want to believe he did this stuff, despite evidence to the contrary, because he doesn't want to be that guy. Isn't it pretty to think so? He needs help and some truth tellers around him who aren't on his payroll.

I agree with all of this, but think it's very telling that he's never taken responsibility for *any* of his behavior including his embarrassing unprofessionalism. He denies he has a substance abuse problem ffs even with photographic evidence! Who could possibly believe a single thing he claims to be true?

The same exact thing can be said about her

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[Anonymous]

I think the judge and jury should split the difference. Both should be required to pay $50M to the county to pay them for wasting the judge, the court and the jury's time for the last 6 weeks. What a horrific waste of taxpayer money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The jury’s question is interesting. It makes me think they are being very critical of AH’s case.

I think you are reading too much into it. For all we know, all but one juror are crystal clear on what the jury instructions mean, but that one wants to hear directly from the judge rather than taking the word of their fellow jurors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the judge and jury should split the difference. Both should be required to pay $50M to the county to pay them for wasting the judge, the court and the jury's time for the last 6 weeks. What a horrific waste of taxpayer money.

Heard didn’t file the lawsuit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She did a lot of recording. Why is there none of him being abusive to her?

I'm not a lawyer and won't guess at the outcome. However, I hope people in general realize that men can be victims of DV.

How did the lovely Ms Heard put it? Something about "Go ahead - tell people that Johnny Depp is abused. Who is going to believe you? You're such a baby. I didn't punch you, I hit you."

If he was apparently violent while drunk, why did she pour him a drink when he got home? That makes no sense to me.

It doesn't make sense because they're both very disturbed emotionally, as is their behavior.