CYA and SYA merger?

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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.
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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger



You mean the top team that beat undefeated Alexandria . And is ranked top 10 in state? 07 boys is best age group.


Instead of arguing about how good your kid’s team is, take the hint and find a club and coaches that will best develop/teach your kid the game. SYA ain’t it.


Lol by age group. It’s always about the group of kids and coach. Again 07 boys one of the best in the area.


Just trying to help you out, but can’t help the helpless.
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I have no dog in this fight but I would think a team ranked in the top ten would be “competitive” regardless of individual matches.
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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.


You must be a Arlington parent, good job calling our 1 game. That game was a fluke, they hadn’t lost to Arlington in 4 years against the 1st, 2nd, whomever. They are also the the only team in the league to beat Alexandria’s MLS team. How about we top it off by mentioning they played a higher flight than Arlington in Jeff cup and was a finalist in the 3rd flight. Stop trying to take these kids down, they are a good team.
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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.


You must be a Arlington parent, good job calling our 1 game. That game was a fluke, they hadn’t lost to Arlington in 4 years against the 1st, 2nd, whomever. They are also the the only team in the league to beat Alexandria’s MLS team. How about we top it off by mentioning they played a higher flight than Arlington in Jeff cup and was a finalist in the 3rd flight. Stop trying to take these kids down, they are a good team.


Not trying to take the kids down. I explicitly said that they were indeed a competitive team. And I agree that individual results are not compelling evidence of much. I only brought up the Arlington 2nd team result because
- a PP (you?) had offered the Alexandria result as evidence that SYA were a top team, which is of course a single game result too. You can't have it both ways. If the Alexandria result is evidence of something, then so is the Arlington result. Or, if the Arlington result is not evidence, then nor is the Alexandria result.
- in this case, Arlington's 2nd team YSR ranking is higher than SYA's 1st team. That is stronger evidence because it is based on the relative performance of both teams against a wide range of opponents and takes into account the strength of the opponents. Also many of these opponents are in common.

My point is that, while SYA are a good, competitive team, they are not quite a top team and, if you believe the Jefferson cup seeding is evidence of anything then playing in the third flight in Jeff would support my position. VDA, SYC, Alexandria, Richmond, Skyline, Achilles, Pipeline, and SAC/Armour are all local teams which played in higher brackets.
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Valor is barely alive and it’s already dying. Are there legal consequences to these entities for such a fiasco?
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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.


You must be a Arlington parent, good job calling our 1 game. That game was a fluke, they hadn’t lost to Arlington in 4 years against the 1st, 2nd, whomever. They are also the the only team in the league to beat Alexandria’s MLS team. How about we top it off by mentioning they played a higher flight than Arlington in Jeff cup and was a finalist in the 3rd flight. Stop trying to take these kids down, they are a good team.


Not trying to take the kids down. I explicitly said that they were indeed a competitive team. And I agree that individual results are not compelling evidence of much. I only brought up the Arlington 2nd team result because
- a PP (you?) had offered the Alexandria result as evidence that SYA were a top team, which is of course a single game result too. You can't have it both ways. If the Alexandria result is evidence of something, then so is the Arlington result. Or, if the Arlington result is not evidence, then nor is the Alexandria result.
- in this case, Arlington's 2nd team YSR ranking is higher than SYA's 1st team. That is stronger evidence because it is based on the relative performance of both teams against a wide range of opponents and takes into account the strength of the opponents. Also many of these opponents are in common.

My point is that, while SYA are a good, competitive team, they are not quite a top team and, if you believe the Jefferson cup seeding is evidence of anything then playing in the third flight in Jeff would support my position. VDA, SYC, Alexandria, Richmond, Skyline, Achilles, Pipeline, and SAC/Armour are all local teams which played in higher brackets.


Body of work bud. 07 SYA and Alexandria are only game competitive teams for boys in that age group. Arlington is garbage, and magically has different players when they play either of the aforementioned.
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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.


You must be a Arlington parent, good job calling our 1 game. That game was a fluke, they hadn’t lost to Arlington in 4 years against the 1st, 2nd, whomever. They are also the the only team in the league to beat Alexandria’s MLS team. How about we top it off by mentioning they played a higher flight than Arlington in Jeff cup and was a finalist in the 3rd flight. Stop trying to take these kids down, they are a good team.


Not trying to take the kids down. I explicitly said that they were indeed a competitive team. And I agree that individual results are not compelling evidence of much. I only brought up the Arlington 2nd team result because
- a PP (you?) had offered the Alexandria result as evidence that SYA were a top team, which is of course a single game result too. You can't have it both ways. If the Alexandria result is evidence of something, then so is the Arlington result. Or, if the Arlington result is not evidence, then nor is the Alexandria result.
- in this case, Arlington's 2nd team YSR ranking is higher than SYA's 1st team. That is stronger evidence because it is based on the relative performance of both teams against a wide range of opponents and takes into account the strength of the opponents. Also many of these opponents are in common.

My point is that, while SYA are a good, competitive team, they are not quite a top team and, if you believe the Jefferson cup seeding is evidence of anything then playing in the third flight in Jeff would support my position. VDA, SYC, Alexandria, Richmond, Skyline, Achilles, Pipeline, and SAC/Armour are all local teams which played in higher brackets.


Body of work bud. 07 SYA and Alexandria are only game competitive teams for boys in that age group. Arlington is garbage, and magically has different players when they play either of the aforementioned.


Wouldn’t call Arlington garbage 07s. But year SYA 07 has consistently one of the strongest teams. Pretty much is been SYA or Alexandria. Sounds like a jealousy factor. Christ I’ve been trying to steal a couple of there kids for 2 years. Cant say that about Arlington.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.


You must be a Arlington parent, good job calling our 1 game. That game was a fluke, they hadn’t lost to Arlington in 4 years against the 1st, 2nd, whomever. They are also the the only team in the league to beat Alexandria’s MLS team. How about we top it off by mentioning they played a higher flight than Arlington in Jeff cup and was a finalist in the 3rd flight. Stop trying to take these kids down, they are a good team.


Not trying to take the kids down. I explicitly said that they were indeed a competitive team. And I agree that individual results are not compelling evidence of much. I only brought up the Arlington 2nd team result because
- a PP (you?) had offered the Alexandria result as evidence that SYA were a top team, which is of course a single game result too. You can't have it both ways. If the Alexandria result is evidence of something, then so is the Arlington result. Or, if the Arlington result is not evidence, then nor is the Alexandria result.
- in this case, Arlington's 2nd team YSR ranking is higher than SYA's 1st team. That is stronger evidence because it is based on the relative performance of both teams against a wide range of opponents and takes into account the strength of the opponents. Also many of these opponents are in common.

My point is that, while SYA are a good, competitive team, they are not quite a top team and, if you believe the Jefferson cup seeding is evidence of anything then playing in the third flight in Jeff would support my position. VDA, SYC, Alexandria, Richmond, Skyline, Achilles, Pipeline, and SAC/Armour are all local teams which played in higher brackets.


Body of work bud. 07 SYA and Alexandria are only game competitive teams for boys in that age group. Arlington is garbage, and magically has different players when they play either of the aforementioned.


The problem with your position is that Youthsoccerrankings is based on body of work. Pipeline, Baltimore Armour, SAC, Potomac, Maryland International, and SAC Spurs, Alexandria, Arlington ECNL, Sterling, VDA ECNL, and Arlington Red are ALL ranked higher on their body of work.

If we just look at the CCL league table:

1. Alexandria W15 L1 T0 GF81 GA8 GD 73
2. SYA W12 L2 T1 GF48 GA17 GD 31
3. Arlington Red W9 L2 T5 GF48 GA21 GD 27

Looks to me like SYA and Arlington's 2nd team are pretty close. And obviously if you consider non CCL games Arlington Red has done a little better than SYA - for example they beat Sterling who in turn beat SYA 4-0, which is why youthsoccerrankings has the two teams ranked almost identically with Arlington Red just very slightly ahead.

Alexandria appears to be a considerable cut above.

I also highly, highly doubt that Arlington magically has different players when they play SYA or Alexandria. Why would they bother? This isn't even their first team for heaven's sake.
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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.


You must be a Arlington parent, good job calling our 1 game. That game was a fluke, they hadn’t lost to Arlington in 4 years against the 1st, 2nd, whomever. They are also the the only team in the league to beat Alexandria’s MLS team. How about we top it off by mentioning they played a higher flight than Arlington in Jeff cup and was a finalist in the 3rd flight. Stop trying to take these kids down, they are a good team.


Not trying to take the kids down. I explicitly said that they were indeed a competitive team. And I agree that individual results are not compelling evidence of much. I only brought up the Arlington 2nd team result because
- a PP (you?) had offered the Alexandria result as evidence that SYA were a top team, which is of course a single game result too. You can't have it both ways. If the Alexandria result is evidence of something, then so is the Arlington result. Or, if the Arlington result is not evidence, then nor is the Alexandria result.
- in this case, Arlington's 2nd team YSR ranking is higher than SYA's 1st team. That is stronger evidence because it is based on the relative performance of both teams against a wide range of opponents and takes into account the strength of the opponents. Also many of these opponents are in common.

My point is that, while SYA are a good, competitive team, they are not quite a top team and, if you believe the Jefferson cup seeding is evidence of anything then playing in the third flight in Jeff would support my position. VDA, SYC, Alexandria, Richmond, Skyline, Achilles, Pipeline, and SAC/Armour are all local teams which played in higher brackets.


Body of work bud. 07 SYA and Alexandria are only game competitive teams for boys in that age group. Arlington is garbage, and magically has different players when they play either of the aforementioned.


The problem with your position is that Youthsoccerrankings is based on body of work. Pipeline, Baltimore Armour, SAC, Potomac, Maryland International, and SAC Spurs, Alexandria, Arlington ECNL, Sterling, VDA ECNL, and Arlington Red are ALL ranked higher on their body of work.

If we just look at the CCL league table:

1. Alexandria W15 L1 T0 GF81 GA8 GD 73
2. SYA W12 L2 T1 GF48 GA17 GD 31
3. Arlington Red W9 L2 T5 GF48 GA21 GD 27

Looks to me like SYA and Arlington's 2nd team are pretty close. And obviously if you consider non CCL games Arlington Red has done a little better than SYA - for example they beat Sterling who in turn beat SYA 4-0, which is why youthsoccerrankings has the two teams ranked almost identically with Arlington Red just very slightly ahead.

Alexandria appears to be a considerable cut above.

I also highly, highly doubt that Arlington magically has different players when they play SYA or Alexandria. Why would they bother? This isn't even their first team for heaven's sake.


Body of work means over years. Those rankings once you get into top 10 is pretty much subjective. But I do know over last 5 years there only been SYA and Alexandria.
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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.


You must be a Arlington parent, good job calling our 1 game. That game was a fluke, they hadn’t lost to Arlington in 4 years against the 1st, 2nd, whomever. They are also the the only team in the league to beat Alexandria’s MLS team. How about we top it off by mentioning they played a higher flight than Arlington in Jeff cup and was a finalist in the 3rd flight. Stop trying to take these kids down, they are a good team.


Not trying to take the kids down. I explicitly said that they were indeed a competitive team. And I agree that individual results are not compelling evidence of much. I only brought up the Arlington 2nd team result because
- a PP (you?) had offered the Alexandria result as evidence that SYA were a top team, which is of course a single game result too. You can't have it both ways. If the Alexandria result is evidence of something, then so is the Arlington result. Or, if the Arlington result is not evidence, then nor is the Alexandria result.
- in this case, Arlington's 2nd team YSR ranking is higher than SYA's 1st team. That is stronger evidence because it is based on the relative performance of both teams against a wide range of opponents and takes into account the strength of the opponents. Also many of these opponents are in common.

My point is that, while SYA are a good, competitive team, they are not quite a top team and, if you believe the Jefferson cup seeding is evidence of anything then playing in the third flight in Jeff would support my position. VDA, SYC, Alexandria, Richmond, Skyline, Achilles, Pipeline, and SAC/Armour are all local teams which played in higher brackets.


Body of work bud. 07 SYA and Alexandria are only game competitive teams for boys in that age group. Arlington is garbage, and magically has different players when they play either of the aforementioned.


The problem with your position is that Youthsoccerrankings is based on body of work. Pipeline, Baltimore Armour, SAC, Potomac, Maryland International, and SAC Spurs, Alexandria, Arlington ECNL, Sterling, VDA ECNL, and Arlington Red are ALL ranked higher on their body of work.

If we just look at the CCL league table:

1. Alexandria W15 L1 T0 GF81 GA8 GD 73
2. SYA W12 L2 T1 GF48 GA17 GD 31
3. Arlington Red W9 L2 T5 GF48 GA21 GD 27

Looks to me like SYA and Arlington's 2nd team are pretty close. And obviously if you consider non CCL games Arlington Red has done a little better than SYA - for example they beat Sterling who in turn beat SYA 4-0, which is why youthsoccerrankings has the two teams ranked almost identically with Arlington Red just very slightly ahead.

Alexandria appears to be a considerable cut above.

I also highly, highly doubt that Arlington magically has different players when they play SYA or Alexandria. Why would they bother? This isn't even their first team for heaven's sake.


By first team do you mean ECNL. Well guess who shows up
In the rosters when’s red plays. ECNL players. I see the player cards. And y’all still generally lose to them.
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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.


You must be a Arlington parent, good job calling our 1 game. That game was a fluke, they hadn’t lost to Arlington in 4 years against the 1st, 2nd, whomever. They are also the the only team in the league to beat Alexandria’s MLS team. How about we top it off by mentioning they played a higher flight than Arlington in Jeff cup and was a finalist in the 3rd flight. Stop trying to take these kids down, they are a good team.


Not trying to take the kids down. I explicitly said that they were indeed a competitive team. And I agree that individual results are not compelling evidence of much. I only brought up the Arlington 2nd team result because
- a PP (you?) had offered the Alexandria result as evidence that SYA were a top team, which is of course a single game result too. You can't have it both ways. If the Alexandria result is evidence of something, then so is the Arlington result. Or, if the Arlington result is not evidence, then nor is the Alexandria result.
- in this case, Arlington's 2nd team YSR ranking is higher than SYA's 1st team. That is stronger evidence because it is based on the relative performance of both teams against a wide range of opponents and takes into account the strength of the opponents. Also many of these opponents are in common.

My point is that, while SYA are a good, competitive team, they are not quite a top team and, if you believe the Jefferson cup seeding is evidence of anything then playing in the third flight in Jeff would support my position. VDA, SYC, Alexandria, Richmond, Skyline, Achilles, Pipeline, and SAC/Armour are all local teams which played in higher brackets.


Body of work bud. 07 SYA and Alexandria are only game competitive teams for boys in that age group. Arlington is garbage, and magically has different players when they play either of the aforementioned.


The problem with your position is that Youthsoccerrankings is based on body of work. Pipeline, Baltimore Armour, SAC, Potomac, Maryland International, and SAC Spurs, Alexandria, Arlington ECNL, Sterling, VDA ECNL, and Arlington Red are ALL ranked higher on their body of work.

If we just look at the CCL league table:

1. Alexandria W15 L1 T0 GF81 GA8 GD 73
2. SYA W12 L2 T1 GF48 GA17 GD 31
3. Arlington Red W9 L2 T5 GF48 GA21 GD 27

Looks to me like SYA and Arlington's 2nd team are pretty close. And obviously if you consider non CCL games Arlington Red has done a little better than SYA - for example they beat Sterling who in turn beat SYA 4-0, which is why youthsoccerrankings has the two teams ranked almost identically with Arlington Red just very slightly ahead.

Alexandria appears to be a considerable cut above.

I also highly, highly doubt that Arlington magically has different players when they play SYA or Alexandria. Why would they bother? This isn't even their first team for heaven's sake.


Body of work means over years. Those rankings once you get into top 10 is pretty much subjective. But I do know over last 5 years there only been SYA and Alexandria.


Are you seriously trying to say that a U14 SYA team is better than another U14 team because of how they both played when the kids were 8 years old?

What matters is how they're playing now. Perhaps SYA is not developing the kids well? Or maybe Arlington's second team added some kids. In any event, there clearly is not a gap any longer.
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Anonymous wrote:How's the 08 boys looking?


SYA 08 was really bad, CYA 08s even worse.


Correction...

SYA was a really bad club, CYA was even worse...

Both clubs offered nothing before, now they offer more of nothing


Accept for 07s, which is one of the best age groups in area.



If your talking about "top level", they're really not that competitive in the 07 group either.

Except for the 09g, the younger groups under u13, on both sides, are not all that competitive.
Especially when compared to other top teams. A better comparison would be their top teams to other clubs 3rd or 4th teams.

Cant imagine this changing to much with the merger


The 07 boys appear to be ranked higher within the state than the 09 girls. Both seem to be strong teams which could be considered competitive, ranked between 5 and 10 in the state. Neither quite meets the defintion of a top team though - the SYA boys are ranked below, and lost to, Arlington's second team for example.


You must be a Arlington parent, good job calling our 1 game. That game was a fluke, they hadn’t lost to Arlington in 4 years against the 1st, 2nd, whomever. They are also the the only team in the league to beat Alexandria’s MLS team. How about we top it off by mentioning they played a higher flight than Arlington in Jeff cup and was a finalist in the 3rd flight. Stop trying to take these kids down, they are a good team.


Not trying to take the kids down. I explicitly said that they were indeed a competitive team. And I agree that individual results are not compelling evidence of much. I only brought up the Arlington 2nd team result because
- a PP (you?) had offered the Alexandria result as evidence that SYA were a top team, which is of course a single game result too. You can't have it both ways. If the Alexandria result is evidence of something, then so is the Arlington result. Or, if the Arlington result is not evidence, then nor is the Alexandria result.
- in this case, Arlington's 2nd team YSR ranking is higher than SYA's 1st team. That is stronger evidence because it is based on the relative performance of both teams against a wide range of opponents and takes into account the strength of the opponents. Also many of these opponents are in common.

My point is that, while SYA are a good, competitive team, they are not quite a top team and, if you believe the Jefferson cup seeding is evidence of anything then playing in the third flight in Jeff would support my position. VDA, SYC, Alexandria, Richmond, Skyline, Achilles, Pipeline, and SAC/Armour are all local teams which played in higher brackets.


Body of work bud. 07 SYA and Alexandria are only game competitive teams for boys in that age group. Arlington is garbage, and magically has different players when they play either of the aforementioned.


The problem with your position is that Youthsoccerrankings is based on body of work. Pipeline, Baltimore Armour, SAC, Potomac, Maryland International, and SAC Spurs, Alexandria, Arlington ECNL, Sterling, VDA ECNL, and Arlington Red are ALL ranked higher on their body of work.

If we just look at the CCL league table:

1. Alexandria W15 L1 T0 GF81 GA8 GD 73
2. SYA W12 L2 T1 GF48 GA17 GD 31
3. Arlington Red W9 L2 T5 GF48 GA21 GD 27

Looks to me like SYA and Arlington's 2nd team are pretty close. And obviously if you consider non CCL games Arlington Red has done a little better than SYA - for example they beat Sterling who in turn beat SYA 4-0, which is why youthsoccerrankings has the two teams ranked almost identically with Arlington Red just very slightly ahead.

Alexandria appears to be a considerable cut above.

I also highly, highly doubt that Arlington magically has different players when they play SYA or Alexandria. Why would they bother? This isn't even their first team for heaven's sake.


Body of work means over years. Those rankings once you get into top 10 is pretty much subjective. But I do know over last 5 years there only been SYA and Alexandria.


Are you seriously trying to say that a U14 SYA team is better than another U14 team because of how they both played when the kids were 8 years old?

What matters is how they're playing now. Perhaps SYA is not developing the kids well? Or maybe Arlington's second team added some kids. In any event, there clearly is not a gap any longer.
. Lol keep enjoying being a 2nd tier program.. behind SYA and Alexandria
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Shame the 07 Boys SYA team always seems to choke in State Cup. Upsets in years gone by to NVSC and Burke in early rounds. Not been to a final 4.
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Anonymous wrote:Shame the 07 Boys SYA team always seems to choke in State Cup. Upsets in years gone by to NVSC and Burke in early rounds. Not been to a final 4.


Good thing they have redemption, going to qualifiers. Auto bid
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